I played through a couple of simulations while playing Fallout 3, and I had fun doing so. I don't want to go into specifics and have to make it a spoiler thing.

In the overall context though, still quite a bit different than the entire game just being a simulation. I wouldn't have liked that as much.

I'm pretty sure it's more on the side of Bethesda holding the franchise in high regard, nothing more.

What other Post-Nuclear series has done as well as Fallout?

I looked over this thread and it made me think "No way could it be a simulation, its way too big, detailed, and expansive for it to be artificially created." Then I realized that its all a video game, and it was all artiificially created, all the canon, everything you can find in the game, all created by some creative game designers.

Really, no Xzibit joke about Operation: Anchorage yet?
Good.

My brains hurts.........let the top stop spinning. I wanna know whats real again!!!!!!!!(jumps off balcony)

Mad Max.

accutally not a spoiler, its the main story line, what they do is go into dreams and plant/steal ideas, in no way does it reveal the ending of the movie.




anyhow it cant be simulation i doubt it would be, remember that mission were you go into the simulation you do it again in anchorage, 2 simulations in 1 simulation


heres a link to explain how i feel:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0hYOntx4Yg

Yes, Fallout is "real" in a sense that its not a simulation created by the Fallout universe. I mean, if it was a simulation, then the US really [censored] up by showing all of the (pre-war) classified projects and stuff in a simulation. Unless the events that were previously stated in the simulation never existed and its really just the early 2000's. Actually, it is just a simulation created by us to show a hypothetical situation.

If it was real, that means in the future, Canada would be annexed rofl

Ok, here's what I think. Neither scenario is real.


All of Fallout 1 and 2, Tactics, and BOS were simulations. The first half of Fallout 3 is also a simulation, designed to see how a vault would cope with an outsider brought in well after the experiment had begun. You play through the experiment, fighting mutants in DC, fixing the dish, seeing Rivet City....

Then you reach Tranquility Lane. When you wake up and leave, that is the end of the simulation. Braun's torments included a seperate file for you, set in DC. It contains elements that really exist in the world, for maximum accuracy, with data taken from Vault manifests and Enclave records. You fight through to the virtual end of that simulation, entering the Tranquility Lane program through the virtual lounger. You rescue your dad, and then both of you wake up on the real Tranquility Loungers. Bceause the program you were in was so accurate, neither of you notices that teh real world is completekly identical to Braun's DC simulator.


Later on, this real DC is discovered to be an illusion as well, and the real world is one where you are a soldier fighting in Anchorage 200 years earlier. You were knocked unconscious by a fall, and in your dream you lived the whole Fallout 3 simulation. At the end of Anchorage, you defeat the Chinese, but a stray mini nuke explodes nearby, putting you in a coma. In your dreams, you awaken in the Fallout 3 simulation, under the impression that you are back in the real world.


So, in actual fact, You are playing a simulation of a simulation of a simulation within a dream.

meh. i don't think it's a simulation. If that's true, then all the history in the fallout universe created by all the games so far would be fake (in the fallout universe). So if this was true, then fallout would have very little actual history, since all of it would have been just a simulation, thus it'd be fake. Also that would be a huge disappointment to me if i found out all the games were simulations.

Nah. It's real.


Yo dawg, we heard you liek simulators...

Actually, all of the Fallout games are based on Vault 118. They have similar technology to Vault 112 where they put people in a simulation. Their simulations are monitored from Vault 0, to see what would happen if they were to really be able to escape certain Vaults. There are approximately 4 inhabitants of Vault 118. Whenever their simulation ends, they are immediately terminated because they know too much as it is. If they were ever released from their containment units, or even awoken from their simulation, that would cause EXTREME schizophrenia, paranoia, and insanity, because of them not knowing the difference between reality and simulation.

Let the record state that each subject is given a new supplementary persona in the simulation to protect them from any case of schizophrenia, paranoia, or insanity while inside the simulation.

The first inhabitant of Vault 118 was put into a simulation regarded as "Fallout---1" this is only because the complete documents of this test have been lost. The original name for this was "Fallout Escape Subject 1". At the end of the Vault 13 simulation, the inhabitant was terminated and they moved on to their second subject.

The second inhabitant of Vault 118 was put into a simulation regarded as "Fallout---2" this is ALSO only because the complete documents of this test were lost and the original name for this was "Fallout Escape Subject 2". At the end of this simulation the subject was also terminated.

The third inhabitant of Vault 118 is STILL in the simulation regarded as "Fallout---3" this is because the complete documents on this test are lost and the original name for this is "Fallout Escape Subject 3". This simulation is still known to be running. The subject is not yet terminated. His termination, and completion of the simulation are to hopefully arrive from October 19th- October 22nd. Certain malfunctions with this simulations has delayed the completion of this test, the subject has wandered off onto other fields that Vault-Tec Officers are calling "DLC".

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The next inhabitant of Vault 118 is being tested with a NEW ideal, to test how a person would react to a completely new life style. The simulation is almost completely under the inhabitants control. The point of this test is to give the inhabitant a new life but test his mind with giving him vague memories of a past life style. This simulation has been in the BETA stage and is being tested by Vault-Tec Officers as we speak. The simulation is expected to begin anywhere between October 19th- October 22nd.

Vault 118's location remains unknown to this day.

I've just pulled this from of all places, the Fallout 1 manual:


http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Vault_Dweller%27s_Survival_Guide

QED?

what if matrix is real and fallout is a simulation ?

The idea of the events in the game being just a simulation was first played with in the manual that came with the original Fallout game. Look under the part about the simulation.

However, by the time of Fallout 2 it is clear that the events are real. Since there is no reason for the Vaults to create a simulation about the dependents of the vault dwellers.

And Fallout 3 isn't a simulation either. It is almost impossible for Vault Tec to be able to program a simulation that includes organizations that didn't even existed until years after the Great War.

Devil's advocate: Unless every game were a simulation, in which case Vault Tec made up the factions to serve as part of their simulation.

Much like Bethesda can't make a game with factions that don't exist in the real world?

Possible. But as I have said, there is no reason for Vault Tec to create a simulation about the grandchildren of the Vault Dwellers (Fallout 2). Also, which would Vault Tec and the US government create a simulation in which they themselves are the evil bad guys (Vault experiment, the Enclave, etc)?

Therefore, if we make the assumption that Fallout 2 is real, then the rest of the Fallouts are real as well due to the presents of the BOS and other groups in them.

I highly doubt the fallout series is a simulation. Black Isle/Bethesda wouldn't make the fallout games a simulation
because they know that it would lose a lot of its appeal and a lot of people (including me) would probably stop playing it.

Also the whole "Americas First Choice in Post Nuclear Simulation" is just a little cute joke thing.

I think we are in a simulation, all of a sudden you are gonna wake up in front of the BOS asking you how life was in the pre-war era, and you would end up realising all what you lived right now was just a simulation and the game was the reality. :celebration:

Oh god that would work.... considering my age at the moment and how old i will be in 2077 means
i could end the simulation bout that time ........... Thanks maddy, more sleepless nights for me <_<

Fallout is the 1950's ideal of what the future would be like but with the dystopian, though not impossible specter of Resource Wars leading to nuclear Armageddon. Read the intro to Harlan Ellison's "A Boy and His Dog", it's almost verbatim to the the Fallout 1 intro.

Uh oh.....guess I'd better stop calling my wife Bittercup and my dog Dogmeat.

I wondered why she was getting freaky about all the guns and ammo in the locker and that room chock full of teddy bears. Might be a bit harder to stop scabbing bottle caps out of garbage bins though....

I wouldn't mind seeing a Fallout spinoff that is set in the "real world", where you are basically investigating Vault-Tec and the various factions of the world, including the simulations. Rather than being about the post-apocalypse, it could be all about the pre-apocalypse, and what you do during the events leading up to the end. I don't think we have seen any major RPG with an pristine "50's" aesthetic, so seeing how things were before the bomb would be interesting.