In the FICTICIOUS (just so you don't think Im mentally handicapped) universe that Fallout is, are the games real or just simulations of what Vault tec thinks would happen? Sorry If Im fumbling in ignorance here but I heard that the fallout games arent actually real in the fallout universe, just simulation of what vault tec thinks could happen (just to recap). "America's first choice in post nuclear simulation" caused me to have further believe in this and even mild hope that eventually they might make a game during the great war before and/or during it. Am I completely wrong here and this is a useless post or what?

I hope it's real and not a simulation of a simulation. Operation Anchorage was enough.

yeah, part of me feels that if it wasn't real then were getting into a bit of a paradox playing simulations of simulations in simulations. But then I still half hope it is just so we could (hopefully) get a game during the great war or something. Even though its reaching a bit :/

Oh it's real; the whole simulation thing is just a gimmick for fun.

It's definentally real. Why would Vault-Tec make a simulation of leaving the vault? Plus when you are playing fallout 3 you can read about the horrible expeirements that happend in other vaults. I doubt they would tell you their secrets in a simulation.

OMG its just like inception! Dream within a dream....simulation within a simulation.

The Vaults are social experiments but I can't think of any time I've seen it suggested that they were virtual simulations or social experiments.

*looks at Fallout Logo at the top of the page*

*looks at Fallout Website*



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All the Fallout's are real not simulations. Would be one hell of a long simulation to cover 200 years and on two different coasts. Also

This series would svck hard if it were a simulation. Also, what Styles said.

True, it would kind of svck were it all fake, but then look at how its been advertised. To re re quote ""Experience all the sights and sounds of fabulous New Vegas, brought to you by Vault-Tec, America's First Choice in Post Nuclear Simulation. Explore the treacherous wastes of the Great Southwest from the safety and comfort of your very own vault: Meet new people, confront terrifying creatures, and arm yourself with the latest high-tech weaponry as you make a name for yourself on a thrilling new journey across the Mojave wasteland. A word of warning, however - while Vault-Tec engineers have prepared for every contingency,* in Vegas, fortunes can change in an instant. Enjoy your stay."" Is that all for kicks or are they being serious?

Pretty sure that's just for kicks. If it is serious, New Vegas will seriously be the most fail Fallout game ever.

So if it was a simulation. Then you'd be playing a simulation of a simulation of a simulation in Operation: Anchorage. Oh jesus.

Similar writing was on the site for Fo3, and can be found in your FO3 manual. As such, its unlikely to be serious.

Real.

If it's not real, then I'll buy a suit of model T-51B Power Armor and a Wattz 2000 Laser Rifle and walk over to J.E. Sawyer and Chris Avellone and say this... It's very simple... "Why, why would you do this to your child?" Then to Todd Howard and scream, "You sir, ruined Fallout. I hope a deathclaw cripples both your legs and you have no stimpacks and your previous save-file is corrupted!" Then I'd play FO1/2 some more. And even 3.

Edit: For those of you who don't like my rants... It's real.

Spoiler much? :glare:

Note: I'm not mad at you. Im just frustrating. Tons of people on tons of threads keep talking about that movie's twist without putting it in spoilers. I was gonna go see it but then was like "Oh, well now I know what happens....Guess I won't go see it."

It's not real because in the games

you don't have t-shirt jeans

u have 50-styled pre-war clothes instead of normal clothes people wuld rather wear if it was real

nobody is going to [censored] wear old clothes from 1950s in real life

The game takes place as how people in the 50s thought the future would be like.

They did in the 50's, and I'm fairly sure they really happened - even though I don't have first hand knowledge.

I just wanted to repeat this to settle that point. The reason people would be wearing 50's style pre-war clothes is because in the Fallout series the war happened when the society was wearing those clothes. It didn't happen in the 50's, it happened in 2077; however, those were the clothes they were wearing.

Fallout is real, not a simulation.

As much as some of the things in the Fallout series can boggle the mind, can you imagine if every single Vault was connected and running the exact same simulation in one long continuation of itself? It might as well be the Matrix. That gives the Matrix too much credit though, Fallout is better and real.

Edit: Real in the context of the thread, not in the context of I'm going to go out and take down some super mutants.

The Vault-Tec simulation thing is a silly advertising gimmick. In the FO canon, the games are real.

It wouldn't make any sense if the games were simulations within the FO canon, becaue the FO canon was established by the Fallout games.

"America's first choice in post nuclear simulation" is just clever advertising for the game. This does not apply to the storyline.

No one wants to play a simulation... it would be like : Ok, I saved Megaton, I almost got SlapChoped by Super Mutant Behemoths, donne great things, etc. All that for nothing!, because it was a simulation.

People don't want to play a game that is something that don't actually happend in the game, but in the sim...