Well, i just got Fallout 1 and 2, but they were from an online trade place but it's doing the annoying thing where all the colors are ****ed up and it makes my laptop sound like it's going to explode (this may be a laptop issue, im not really a comp gamer, but i figured a game as old as these would be fine). I think it's an issue with the game disks themselves or something, but whatever, i started playing it, and got sortof really bored right from the get-go because of it's gameplay style.

Well, i am a fan of Fallout 3 & NV, so i would like to know more about the Fallout world, but am not sure i would be able to play through the entirety of FO1 & 2

So, do you good people of this forum think that there would ever be the possibility of Fallout one and two being remade to more of a Fallout 3 and NV style (first person, etc.), and would you like this to happen?

I can see why people want to, because the graphics are a big barrier to people enjoying them. I tried to say this in the other thread and nobody got my point (and things got a little too heated). They just rushed to defend the older games mindlessly. This thread just proves the point I was making.

I don't see the point in remaking them just for that reason, though. I'd rather see new games with new ideas. If Bethesda decided to do it, I would support them though.

Theres a big difference between saying the older games svck because of their graphics and saying they are good but some people can be put off by the graphics.

Edit: here is a link to a topic about remaking FO1 and FO2 ===> http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1150876-remaking-fallout-and-fallout2/page__view__findpost__p__16838468

Oh boy, http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1150876-remaking-fallout-and-fallout2/ http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1145882-fallout-remake/ http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1138633-remake-of-fallout-1-like-fallout-3/ http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1142798-time-to-redo-fo1-and-fo2/...



I don't see it as a possiblity, and I'd be vehemently opposed to it happening.




Uh, no. The graphics posed no problem to those of us who have played them, therefore that's not the barrier- not even to some who were introduced to the series by Fallout 3 who have since played both.

It would be equally, if not more, accurate to say that the barrier is modern "gamers" and their demand for shiny, shallow, fast-action fluff to the exclusion of all else. Anyone who wants to dispute that might be well advised to look around these very forums and see how many posts there are making claims like "new games have to have the absolute best graphics or they'll svck." People who were perfectly willing to write off Fallout 3 and New Vegas because they don't have the latest and greatest over-the-top graphics. 'Cause, like, y'know, anything that doesn't look at least as shiny as Crysis must just be total garbage, right?



By my understanding, Interplay still holds the rights to sell the original games- so if Bethesda decided to do it, I'd gladly laugh myself into a stupor as Interplay sued them up one side and down the other. Because even if it is specifically and only "the rights to sell" the originals, a good lawyer could likely make a case for remakes "damaging that ability" and give Bethesda a nice big legal headache.

it's not a graphics thing for me (although the condition of the game is annoying me atm), it's that i don't feel like playing this kind of game atm.

I probably will play these games at a later date.



I would still like to see the games as the newer ones though, heck, i think alot of games should be remade for the newer generation of consoles (FF1-9, for example, but that would just be for graphical purposes and the awesomeness factor)

I own the games, I know how they work, and I want new games to be made, instead. Why would I want them remade?

well, i think new games should take priority, but remakes would still be welcome, for me

The originals got away with things that can not or will not be done today, any remake would not be a true remake.

Fallout 1 & 2 do things that will not work with the gamebryo engine. It would also be a viciously hard game if you make it a real-time first-person shooter. The PC in Fallout 1 & 2 are no stronger than the characters around him, turn based is absolutely nessesary for survival. Then there is also the factor of the second game's random encounters.

You encounter: an Enclave Patrol (they are incredibly good shots and use pistol weapons like the pulse pistol or the gauss pistol)
You encounter: a pack of Deathclaws (they come in packs of 6 usually)
You encounter: a band of mauraders (often there are 10 mauraders, all wearing metal armour with at least two using P90s...)
You encounter: a press gang (If you thought the Legion at the end of F:NV was horrible when they surrounded you pounding on you with their power fists, these guys are far worse)
You encounter: remnants of the Master's Army (these guys are absurdly strong)

I really don't know what more to say. If it was like FO3 then it would be a really hard game.

I don't think they will be remade, but I would love it if they were. I have completed Fallout 1 and started Fallout 2. What puts me off the games isn't the graphic, I can still enjoy Daggerfall, it's the isometric view. I severely dislike isometric view, as I feel so detached from everything that's going on. That is why I would love to see a remake, although I'm not exactly holding my breath for it.

If they were remade like complete replicas with everything only that the graphics are far better then yes. I would like to see them remade.
Here's the thing, it won't happen.
If they decide to remake them they will focus on FPS balance and stats first before focusing on isometric TB which won't get enough focus.
So the actual complex mechanics will be replaced with "simpler" mechanics in order to cater to casual gamers.

Next up is quests and dialogue, if they remade the games they would add quests, remove quests, tweak quests or flat out change quests cause they feel like it.
And dialogue? Since they need voice actors for everything I'm sure a lot of dialogue would be cut down or removed in order to make room for other things.

Then we have the measurements, like in Vault City, how big is the front door?
Tons and tons of small changes will be made everywhere since they wouldn't be able to get the exact measurements right and it would be like let's say you like reading Naruto, then you read a fan comic, which while funny and true to it's characters the art-style is not the same and puts you off from it.

And I'm sure there's a lot more than just this.

Point is, theoretically, if they could recreate them as exact replicas only with better graphics, no FPS and voice actors for every dialogue without changing it then yes, I would love to see them remade.

But realistically, that won't happen, if they remake them then they WILL change stuff, and that isn't acceptable for me.

No, just no

Great, another one of these, No.

Thats it, all the other posts in this thread with posts AGAINST this idea have pretty much summed it all up.