If Fallout 4 follows the practice of Fallout 3 that kept the style and game-play of 1 and 2, it will be another great achievement and be all we would want. Basically expanding Fallout 3 and adding some more and varied content.

Fallout 3 was totally in keeping with the Fallout series style and game-play, in keeping with both Fallout 1 and Fallout 2.

Fallout 2 had many changes from Fallout 1, such as armour could no longer be looted from dead enemies. Fallout 3 went back to how it was in Fallout 1 allowing looting of armour (a big source of income), also Fallout 3 kept some of the many changes that Fallout 2 made.

As you can see, changes or refinements can and do occur between each game of a series, and each game is still a valid part of the series by keeping the overall style and game-play the same. Fallout 3 did just that, keeping in tune with the rest of the series, taking the best of the previous, tweaking and enhancing it into the best Fallout so far.

So that is the way to go.

Well that's your opinion of course, not a fact - and not an opinion everyone shares, at that.

You never could loot armor from enemies in FO1 either.

Also it is now impossible to scavenge armor from corpses, making the total scavenging yield per kill lower.

If by keeping with the gameplay, you mean that you can talk to npcs and shoot nasty creatures, then yes... fallout 3 totally is keeping with its predecessors.

Indeed, I also don't know how it's keeping with the style and gameplay when both the style and gameplay of FO3 is completely opposie of the originals.

Fallout 2 featured a much wider array of items, weapons and armor than Fallout. Most of the items from Fallout returned, but had alternate and upgraded forms: the minigun, for example, is now joined by the Avenger and Vindicator mini-guns. Laser and plasma weaponry are now complimented with Pulse pistols and rifles which have short range and low ammo capacity, but deal massive electrical damage. Item prices were also increased at stores, making scavenging for items more important. Also it is now impossible to scavenge armor from corpses, making the total scavenging yield per kill lower. In addition to old, upgraded weapons, several new weapons were introduced for all branches of combat, thus making no one combat skill the best, and allowing the player to be powerful with any firearm. The range of enemies was also increased to a wider diversity. The end result is a much more complex combat environment.

Skills start off at a lower rate than the first game, and the various skills are also more important. Previously, skills like Unarmed, Doctor and Traps were used sparingly, but now, all skills are useful to a degree. The maximum level of a Skill was increased from 200 to 300. The Unarmed skill in particular was made much more sophisticated by adding different types of Punches and Kicks depending on the player's Attributes and skill level. Additionally, skills become more expensive to improve at higher levels. Several new Perks were added while most others were retained, allowing a greater degree of customization.

Karma is accompanied by Reputation, and while Karma affects the player on a whole, Reputation affects how the player is received in a single town. While Karma is achieved by doing good things and killing monsters, Reputation grows based on how the player helps the city, usually by completing sub-quests. By nature, Reputation and Karma tend to grow parallel to each other. As in Fallout, good/evil characters react differently to players with different Karma. Also, the player can acquire certain titles (Gigolo, Made Man, Slaver) based on their actions that also affect the game and how others react to them.

Recruitable NPCs were very simplistic in the first game, and the only extent of control the player had over them was controlling what weapons they used and telling them to stay at a certain distance. In Fallout 2, team NPC control is much more sophisticated, with the NPCs being able to level up, equip armor and be issued orders before combat ranging from when to run away to when to heal themselves. The NPCs also possess distinct personalities and characteristics, similar to previous games. The recruiting process is also more complex, with NPCs refusing to join the player if he has negative Karma or before a certain quest has been completed. Finally, there is a limit to the number of NPCs a player can recruit.

In the original Fallout, sub-quests in the towns and cities were usually solved within that city, with only a few sub-quests requiring the player to travel. The cities, fairly isolated except for caravans, were concerned with their own problems. In Fallout 2, however, the cities have a great deal of contact with each other, and with the sole exception of Klamath, actions in one city may affect the state of another, and sub-quests will often require the player to go back and forth from location to location to kill enemies and deliver messages and items. To assist this, the makers of Fallout 2 added a vehicle, The Chrysalis Motors Highwayman which reduces map travel time significantly. It can be upgraded several times in various missions, and it runs on the same nuclear cells as certain weapons in the game.

The game's overall theme matter is more advlt, with drugs and prostitution becoming major elements of the setting and the drug "Jet" as one of the major subplots. Profanities are also encountered more often. During the course of the game, players can join the Mafia, become a porm star, and engage in advltery. Slavery also becomes an important subplot, and players can either side with the Slavers or join their opponents that try to stamp slavery out. NPCs can be bought and sold as slaves during the course of the game.

Fallout 3 was totally in keeping with the Fallout series style and game-play, in keeping with both Fallout 1 and Fallout 2.

:rolleyes: You're going to have to explain that one, assuming you've actually played the first two.

Fallout 2 had many changes from Fallout 1, such as armour could no longer be looted from dead enemies. Fallout 3 went back to how it was in Fallout 1 allowing looting of armour (a big source of income), also Fallout 3 kept some of the many changes that Fallout 2 made.[/b]

As you can see, changes or refinements can and do occur between each game of a series, and each game is still a valid part of the series by keeping the overall style and game-play the same. Fallout 3 did just that, keeping in tune with the rest of the series, taking the best of the previous, tweaking and enhancing it into the best Fallout so far.

As Fallout 2 was "keeping with the Fallout series style and game-play" with it's many changes from Fallout 1 (unless you say otherwise), so is Fallout 3 with it's changes, as particular example of adopting play of Fallout 1 (the original of the series) in respect that armour can be looted off corpses, etceteras, so is indeed in keeping with Fallout style and game-play.

As Fallout 2 was "keeping with the Fallout series style and game-play" with it's many changes from Fallout 1 (unless you say otherwise), so is Fallout 3 with it's changes, as particular example of adopting play of Fallout 1 (the original of the series) in respect that armour can be looted off corpses, etceteras, so is indeed in keeping with Fallout style and game-play. That was something that Fo2 failed to adopt from the original Fo1, so do you say that Fo2 was not part of the series in style and game-play?

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I like how he says it keeping with the style and game play when both the gameplay style and the mechanics are totally different.

But, but we have lootable armor... B)

Nah, your wrong it plays Like Baldur's Gate!

To the other like-minded happy posters as well

You're talking about a set of few features against a complete turnover. Where Fallout 2 introduced some new features while keeping the core, F3 spins the whole thing upside down. Character skill and stat driven gameplay was turned into an FPS with lite rpg elements and you say that's keeping with the gameplay? Lootable armor (that seems to be the highlight of your point) is a feature that does not change the gameplay in any drastic way be it there or not.

Now, Fallout 3 is a good game and I play and enjoy it (to a point). But it certainly is not in keeping with it's predecessors' gameplay and style, as the game is built over Oblivions mold - wrapped in post apoc setting - instead of Fallouts.

But, but we have lootable armor... B)

Shh, don't mention all the changes of play that Fo2 made, no-no, they don't count, ... but they sure made the precedent that changes can occur, and the game-play overall, with all it's interplay of mature content and of sixual themes, drugs and violence that Fo1 and Fo2 contained, along with other play, made Fo3 undeniably a Fallout series game ... even though there were improvements and updates in game-play, though there was nothing that could make somebody who was playing the game say that it was not so a Fallout series game.

For Fallout 4 I'd like AI behavior to depended on who/what I'm fighting.
Soldiers and mercenaries should be tactical, working together, covering each other and trying to use their combined equipment to their fullest.
Pack animals and Raiders should work together, but be a bit more direct about it. They might ambush you on a good day, but their approach is mostly brazen.
I'd be nice to see each enemy take a different approach, rather melee enemies going straight for you and ranged enemies going less straight for you while shooting.

I think it's pretty obvious that Fallout 3 is quite a departure from the previous two games. Just take any two screenshots from those games, and it should be patently obvious.

WIKI says you are WRONG.

Actually, we were both right (or wrong, depending on how you look at it) - in Fallout 1, you CAN loot armor from a few, select people, but during normal gameplay (ie., not shooting every town's inhabitants dead) you would never come across these (and you can't go kill BoS for Power Armor or anything like that). Random encounters for example have no enemies with lootable armor... There's a distinct difference between this and FO3 where enemies dropped everything they were using.