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If we see another Fallout game involving the Midwestern Brotherhood of Steel what would they most likely be up to at this point? They've come into contact with the Legion so we know they are still around. They may still pose a large threat because the Legion hasn't expanded far in their direction. Their strength would obviously hinge on what ending of Tactics is canon.

My hope for the MWBoS is that they go by another name. That they know little if anything of their past other then the ill fated mission and the time of The Warrior. I would like for the Barnaky Ending to be the canon ending.

I know people say the Barnaky ending can't be the canon ending. But IMO it can. He takes control. He soon orders all mutants in the Midwestern Brotherhood of Steel to be rounded up and sent to camps. And on top of that he orders anyone including Elders who supported the mutants to be killed or send to camps. This causes a divide in the MWBoS. Barnaky starts a series of Stalinist style purges of the organization. Crippling their military might.

Some members of the MWBoS find themselves on a list of people to be killed. So they fight back. They try to overthrow Barnaky. They fail to do so but damage His/Vault Zero's prewar systems. Barnaky can no longer control his limited robotic forces at the same time and the further a way they are the less control. The attempted assassination makes him even more paranoid and the purges become more brutal. The inquisition becoming only answerable to him.

Enemies grow. The main one being the Mutant Liberation Army. An organization of ghouls, super mutants and humans. Many of which could have been trained by the MWBoS. They liberate some of the MWBoS camps.

Many towns under the control of the MWBoS rebel and less and less people join them. In time they come weaked. Reduced to strongholds from Chicago to Colorado. Those left in the BoS become very fanatical. They still recruit but have become very good at indoctrination of their beliefs. The towns that do support them are treated well.

Still by the time of Fallout 3 the MWBoS have come a shadow of their former selves. Their robotic forces are reduced significantly. Since they have little means to build robots. Remember in Fallout Tactics the MWBoS destroyed many of the Calculator's factories and power sources. The Calculator couldn't build large numbers of robots and power them with Vault Zero alone. So Barnaky would be in the same situation. Only having the limited resources of Vault Zero. To control such a huge area.

So yeah 80+ years of war with enemies from without and enemies (purges) from within have reduce the MWBoS. By the time Lyons comes across them as part of his mission he is disgusted by what he finds. Moves on and wants to forget them.

They were described as a small group. That could be because that is all Lyons was allowed to see. The MWBoS might still know enough about the West to have worried that Lyons and his people were the just the head of an invasion force. A long awaited force to deal with them.

Now Lyons also wanting change born not long after the events of Tactics could be haunted by what the MWBoS has become. Worried that he could make the same mistakes they made and go down the same dark road.

I picture the MWBoS having chapters of their own. With Barnaky being a Big Brother figure watching every bunker.

start off in vault filled with Gary's

you are a Gary

whole game is you walking around vault as a Gary

every now and then someone goes in vault u must kill them

Gary.

Knowing Bethesda the plot twist would be that you are actually called Gareth... where the game takes place in a Vault run by F.E.V exposed super intelligent brahmin.