What about combat like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hewpYnt4q_A? [not exactly, but similar]

A kind of concept hybrid of Fallout and FO3; could be third person. Where this would be part of VATS, and the effect would (hopefully) be AP dependent for movement, inventory, and attacks.

I could see it. Looks good. What about percentages next to the cross-hairs depending on where you point them? I think that would offer the kind of tactical RPG combat we expect to see without resorting to ridiculous cut-scenes or FPS style combat.

hmm.. I rather let statistics talk for itself, RH-IronSights is the thirteenth most endorsed mod of Fallout 3 on Nexus, with near a million downloads (999'324), so clearly people don't think it's crap, just saying
It doesn't defy that, you start with a lot of sway and low chance of criticals,, VATS was developed for the players who want it to be entirely character based.

You mean like this? [@1:40]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewN2qBXQKXY

Wow! I was sick during 253 topic but the growth rate of this suggestions thingie is astonishing

Anyway I'm here just to recap something I left/read away:

- about DLC I like the idea about something that will evolve the main plot maybe towards the next game. So maybe it's cool to inherit the past and distinguish between modern concept of DLC and the past concept of add-on. Maybe the DLC could be some generic improvement not necessarily regarding the main plot, while the add-on could be an extension of the story. In this way we'll make happy both the gun-fans and the plot's richness fans... and also the software house because they can sell DLC and add-on. Also the people will be happy to be able to choose;

- about money gaining way I proposed some micro management inner game approved only (thanks anyway!) by Yan L. The idea is just to give a new reason for making money to the player; I'm thinking to propose a poll: is there any rule to propose a poll or is it possible to do it in any time for any FO matter?

Thank you.

The difference is that we aren't trying to invent fictional history for a Bethesda game because the devs decided to shoehorn nonsensical material from older games into a region where it makes no sense. We made the observation that jet, which was invented by Myron in the west some 80+ years after the war, magically appears in a multitude of pre-war containers with zero explanation. This was also an extension of how the hell are stimpacks so common place?

Neither Gizmo or myself claimed to be endorsed by Bethesda, and we certainly didn't invent history for a game without any.

**On that note, now that I think about it.. I feel pretty cheated by Bethesda. They have always cared about the history of their own franchise (TES) and have done well to explain and introduce it to their audience. On the other hand it seems like they took a cursory glance at Fallout 1 and 2 and then slapped crap in without explanations and not caring about the history of the franchise. I realize TES is their baby, but it seems extremely unfair to the Fallout audience and I can understand why so many here get so heated now. --(I realize this isn't the originals. I realize this is their iteration of Fallout and I'm not disputing that.)

I would love to see cool DLC for Fallout 4 and thought of something I would like to see as DLC.

So the DLC would start you going into a military bunker. In the bunker you come across several rooms, but one room seems special and as you inspect the room and all of sudden get teleported away. You are teleported to a military base on the moon (or Mars). When you arrive you find out that the people never know what happened to Earth. All they know that the communicated stopped and never came back. The player finds out that the people in the base are in the middle of a revolution (the base would be huge). Also because of the teleportation the teleportation pad or chamber burnt out and needs to be repaired. With other words you would't be able to go back until you have finished the DLC. The player will help in the revolution. He has two choices. Which are choosing sides. War is inevitable. The most worry some about the revolution is that the base contain warheads that are still deployable. The first side you meet wants to prevent this from happening. The other side wants them to be fired to earth as they feel betrayed. When the player chooses the first side he will do everything to prevent this from happening by destroying the otherside and disarming the warheads. When the player chooses the other side he will do everything to make it happen. He would do this by eliminating the first side and the help to get the warheads deployed (they don't know how to deploy them yet). When the player succeeds on either side they will help him return to Earth.

Enviroment would be the base on the moon. This base is a super high-tech military. The base is also huge with open terain and seperated buildings. These could be connected by long tunnels or tubes, but for the story it would be more fun if they also have open air between the buildings. Which means the player would need special gear. To move between buildings.

Rewards would be strong and special weapons/armour. No bottlecaps as it would be illogical for them to use it as currency as they don't know about the war that has happened. Also the player would receive good/bad karma depending on wether he chose to nuke Earth or not.

The player would still be able to get back to the moon base.

Maybe easter eggs. For example some could have sworn they saw two space ships fight each other with giant lasers (reference to Mothership Zeta). An other idea would be for there to be an intact smaller alien ship (like the one you see in the beginning of mothership Zeta) with an alive alien. He's from Zeta, but fled after it got taken over. The player can use the space ship to get back to Zeta (ofcourse not everywhere, but just the docking area and control room. If combined with my other idea (which I will write in the future) the player still is the LW but 10 years later and moved to an other part of the wasteland and just never came back to the ship till now that is. The girl will be grown up and remembers him.

Hope you enjoyed it . If you would like to see anything added to the DLC just or have any questions just say it in the comments.

PS: Sorry if I made spelling/grammer mistakes (English isn't my native language). Feel free to correct me.

I hope we can help them realizing their mistakes in their forum. I'm convinced that they care. Fallout 4 could of course destroy that feeling, so I'm super excited for how it's going to end up, whether it's worth buying, etc.

I really don't share your vision for the franchise.

I think future installments (including DLC) should be more grounded (figuratively and literally), exploring more of the world and the culture and ethics of its people instead of leaving the world and making it feel so insignificant.

Travelling to space/other dimensions/areas inaccessible to normal people shouldn't be part of the experience.

I want to have quests that involve relationships between family members. I want to have quests that explore problems of the people, such as fears and hopes, dreams and illusions, strive for recognition, business and economical questions, psychology, history, questions without clear answers. I want to learn about cultures different from our own. I want effects and explosions to be background decorations, neither the very hooks for stories, nor obscuring the non-existant depth of the world.

Your DLC is rooted in effects I feel. Granted, there's much one could do with it. But isn't the very hook of it already setting a focus beyond what makes me (or us?) care?

I agree. Not every hole can be filled, and neither does it need to be. But glaring ones aren't mysteries, they are oversights imo.

Still I prefer the recent Jet to be Pseudo-Jet, not the real thing (including NV's Jet).

My personal explanation: Well, I wouldn't explain it via a trade caravan, but via a legend. Jet's a legend. Legends spread - in case of Jet even as far as the other side of the continent. People hear about it and really want that drug. Others decide to make a business and create it, just that it's not the real stuff, but a fake one. The original formula was lost, even in the west.

About the Wasteland Survival Guide: It's the original. Moira's one crazy [censored]. She's probably swimming in caps by this time. Myron's dead. His legacy is just a weak excuse for Jet. Even Ultra-Jet doesn't come close.