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http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1479722-fallout-4-speculation-suggestions-and-ideas-172/

http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1479708-fallout-4-speculation-suggestions-and-ideas-171/

http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1479703-fallout-4-speculation-suggestions-and-ideas-170/

http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1479694-fallout-4-speculation-suggestions-and-ideas-169/

http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1479657-fallout-4-speculation-suggestions-and-ideas-168/

http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1479569-fallout-4-speculation-suggestions-and-ideas-167/

http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1479472-fallout-4-speculation-suggestions-and-ideas-166/

http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1479392-fallout-4-speculation-suggestions-and-ideas-165/

http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1479303-fallout-4-speculation-suggestions-and-ideas-164/
http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1479198-fallout-4-speculation-suggestions-and-ideas-163/
http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1479129-fallout-4-speculation-suggestions-and-ideas-162/
http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1479043-fallout-4-speculation-suggestions-and-ideas-161/

I am not convinced about your arguments. Sorry.

I have my doubts about the legitamacy of the site but for complete different reasons (which I don't state here, sorry for the people who want to know, I don't want to spoil the fun for people who like it and I have no prove too).

Yes it seems I have a similar symptom . It's always a nice challenge to discuss with you and I respect that a lot.

(continued from the previous thread)

So what's the current state of this matter? Have we got some gameplay footage yet?

No footage,no art,no annoucement, it is still speculation, the secondary timer ended with another crypted message.

I think I was ready to call fake as soon as the second timer went up. Everything about this seems to be an after-thought. First we just had a timer, then a vault logo was added, then a second timer. The second timer just counts down to more code, which was pointless because we've had morse code throughout the whole thing. The new code hasn't told us anything new , hasn't announced anything. There was no point to it.

I think the second timer was added because some guy got so excited about the hype he was getting he couldn't wait until the main timer ran down.

If you look at this objectively this has some pretty shoddy planning for a company like Bethesda to have done it. Ask yourself, what would be the point of Bethesda hiding their involvement in FO4? It's not like we're going to be surprised if the countdown runs down and they flash up a massive Bethesda Softworks logo, who's going to say "OMG I had no idea Beth were working on FO4".

Fallout doesn't need to generate hype in such a poorly thought out way such as this. I think that when Bethesda do launch FO4 there will be no mistaking it.

(However, should this turn out to be official I would like to retract the above opinion in advance. Thank you)

Re-posting this.

https://twitter.com/Bethblog/status/406226044144742401/photo/1/large

http://i.imgur.com/YpcVg2s.png?3

And more surprises to be announced eh?

The thing is if this is offical then it will go down as one of the most brillent markting campains in recent years, they system is flawless that for having NOTHING officail on the page other then a single basic game referance logo to generate the amount of hype,whether good or bad,it has been amazing marketing,even the inclussion of the ARG,WHICH STUDIES HAVE SHOWN have increased,due to the whole GAMIFICATION aspect of such things,people been talking about this site like crazy.

I got a friend who other then in passing knows nothing about the actual FALLOUT games, but since the site popped up he has been following it along with the reddit page(s) rather closely,on top of pouring hours of free time into the wiki learning as much as he can about the IP's world,so its safe to say that when FO4 comes out he will buy it, so a new gamer has been bought,thanks to a site that has offically nothing to do with Bethesda,at this time.

I just cannot see a resemblance of the rivers in the background of the ad...

Awwwww. You two....sniff sniff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adfV9Dbrtrw&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Brilliant marketing? I guess we'll find out on Saturday. If Bethesda don't announce FO4 at VGX then I'm calling fake. I can't believe that they'd keep quiet at a great platform like VGX and then have their first major announcement about FO4 being a dodgy website countdown the following Wednesday.

If they do announce Saturday, it could still be fake. Once FO4 is announced an official website will be live straight away, not four days later.

I think that is kinda pushing it, Agent Mulder. I say wait until Saturday.

Actually it'd go down as the worst. Have you checked the website's hit count? It's tiny - way below what a teaser for such an anticipated game should be. As the person above you said, the whole thing is a half-assed afterthought, probably done by a couple of college students.

http://i.imgur.com/NBnnP3g.png

So much for "This mystery hype thing doesn't work"

It does work, it's been done by Beth before. More importantly, it was done with Fallout 3 almost identically.

guys i finally cracked the code!

the overseer of vault 119 is dead

Well, the target is the hardcoe Fallout fan. Not average Joe gamer.

Average Joe Gamer is this guy at Gamestop as I was picking up XCom Enemy Within.

Purchasing Skyrim Legendary Edition he said " I hope this is better than Oblivion. I couldn't get into it cuz it had no achievements."

And, just to add to this,

http://i.imgur.com/N7nyJJU.png

http://i.imgur.com/veujRA0.png

Not an exact copy, but it seems way too coincidental. I mean, random rock textures in a promo that happen to resemble the rivers of Boston?

More surprises to be announced??

Conspiracy's we need to go deeper

That's just it, it's not identical. The Fallout 3 teaser site had artwork, music and a Fallout 3 logo as well as a countdown. At the end of the countdown they released a trailer.

This is pretty poor quality in comparison.

Its brillent marketing in the sense the hype has been extremely high,if the site turns out to be fake,then BETH still had a really good amount of free hype for a game.

as for the offical site lauching days later after the VGX and not day of its simple...thye want you to tune in,see the annoucement and first look, not go visit the site, FO3 did the same thing, the site did not launch till after the annoucement and teaser trailer. and the kick about that was this:

alll the FO3 site had was the PLEASE STAND BY slogan and a timer,that was it, no BETH logos or anything relating to fallout,no one knew what it was till after the countdown hit ZERO,so this could well be in the same lines of that exact pattern with the ARG added as a new marketing platform.

the FO3 site didn't have anything other then the PLEASE STAND BY slogan and the timer, no logos,or OFFICAL BETH icons,it was actually a mystery for awhile,until it was found out they had bought rights to produce fallout games.

Really? I could be wrong then, it was some time ago.

I'm 99% certain on that,BGS was really keeping the FO IP secret in the beginning.

It's funny how constantly the marketing for the announcement is mixed up with the marketing for the game itself.

Contrary to Skyrim and Fallout 4 (I assume) was Fallout 3 annonunced very early http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout_3_announcement so the teaser website wasn't such a big surprise and everyone knew (who wanted to) that it will be FO3 from Bethesda. No need for "no commenting" back then.

What's happening now (in the best case) is simply creating hype for the VGX. Then the real marketing (for average joe gamer ) starts.

I suppose pointless speculation isn't going to get us anywhere. May as well, I dunno. get back to work before my boss "fires" me.

investigating is work,so your boss can't "fire" you.