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People are still in denial over it being a fake. Top lel.

Lol. Honestly, this kind of reminds me of the whole thing with the Blue Star Sunset Sarsaparilla Caps. If you'd read the terminal in their headquarters, somehow a rumor had started about their being a special prize for the caps, and sales sky rocketed. When management heard of the rumor, they took advantage of it and installed Festus and then the Sunset Sarsaparilla Deputy Badges.

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Sunset_Sarsaparilla_headquarters_terminal_entries

Why are people not saying the real reason to be disappointed? There was Desmond Lockheart, meaning that if the site had been real it would have been an indication that Bethesda suddenly cares about continuity and canon.

I wonder if they announce FO4 at the VGX. Pete Hines said they won't even be there, but people said he denied being there for the VGA they announced Skyrim at. I wonder what will happen when Bethesda announces a Chicago based game with BoS vs Enclave again. Reddit will not be happy, and their influence was vital in making Skyrim as popular as it is. Bethesda needs an astronomical failure about now, I think.

Every single day there's tons of new content for Fallout popping up on the internet, while I doubt this one escaped Bethesda's radar considering the amount of gaming press that reported on it, I have a feeling they kept a "wait and see" approach about the whole thing, and were just as curious to see things go.

Free publicity is free publicity.

I highly doubt Bethesda's integrity is at all damaged by this, in fact I've not seen any evidence to suggest such a thing outside this forum specific. They will do just fine, and I will be queuing up with the rest of the drones to be buying FO4 when it is finally released.

Told you it's fake.

You should look at Pete Hines and Bethesda's twitter then. Also, on Reddit, where the most true Bethesdrones dwell.

Yet you were wrong about them still being marketing gods. Bethesda fessed up that they didn't even know this thing got to be as big as it did. I mean for a time everyone was talking about this; Reddit, to which they largely owe Skyrim's success, was discussing it like crazy.

Just like Skyrim was a slap in the face, their silence proves that Bethesda isn't any better than EA or Activision. They enjoyed the free publicity at the cost of being honest with their fans. They could've came out the day after the website was found to say it wasn't theirs. With the way they handled this, I'm almost afraid to see what garbage they churn out and call Fallout.

You and me both.

Where was I wrong? I repeatedly stated that Bethesda's marketing department is competent and wouldn't make glaring mistakes the Survivor 2299 website did. Bethesda let it run its course, then denied the allegations to prevent disappointment. It's pretty competent.

Furthermore, you're giving too much credit to Reddit. Bethesda owes nothing to Reddit about Skyrim. The game succeeded thanks to millions of fans of The Elder Scrolls franchise.

Honestly, I'm really dissapointed in Bethesda. I'm not even mad at the guy who made the Survivor website. He put in a lot of time and effort and it was an interesting ride. So I'm not pissed at him, not at all. I would like to shake his hand and give him some kudos.

Bethesda dropped the ball however PR wise. They let this go on for way too long. Instead of taking just 5 minutes to give a clear answer, to simply say 'it's not us' to all the fans out there, they let it go on and on. And for what? So we'd spend a little extra cash on Fallout stuff while the hype was taking place? As a fan of Bethesda's work I feel used. This is not what I call a competent marketing group.

As I'm rather break the hand of that person and give him couple of other things... I totally agree with the rest of it. Most people are angry not because we were fooled by this hoax but because Bethesda take active role in it. Yes, active role I said, for such long time they do nothing, as sunago said not even one fraking little post or tweet that they or Zenimax have nothing to do with that site. One minute of work, couple of words... simple thing and there would be no problem at all.

You're ignoring my point about Bethesda not even knowing about how much hype it created. Their own forums were hyping the site, without them knowing it. That's incompetence.

Also, you underestimate Reddit, look at Borderlands 2, that was a game made to cater to redditors and it became quite popular. Skyrim wouldn't have sold much better than Oblivion did if it was up to only TES fans, Reddit played a part, and Bethesda knows it. Look at that video Todd Howard shows, the one where the developers implemented random ideas they had. You know, where the infamous vampire form originally comes from. I think that video is proof enough that Reddit has an influence on BGS. I'm not happy about it either, since then promote "throw it in if it's cool, even if it doesn't make any sense", but it's the truth.