Not to mention you'll be spared the frustration of the inevitable day one bugs. Fallout 3 was quite an offender in this case, but New Vegas was damn near unplayable for the first week.

Or two.

This, of course assumes that Skyrim had any C&C associated with it...which it didn't. That's why in the end, nothing mattered. Nothing you ever did make a bit of difference.

This!

Actually how Bethesda treat the reputation will be indicative of there approach most likely to the Fallout series in the future, get rid of it and they're probably going to follow the skyrim ethos or keep it and maybe even expand upon it will suggest that they are using the fonv ethos.

The farthest that Skryim went in terms of consequence, if we can call it that, was the Blades rejecting you until you killed Paarthurnax (which I never did, screw Delphine). That's pitiful.

That wasn't a choice or a consequence, it was an ultimatum...and nobody I know likes those. That's just the sort of thing that Fallout 4 doesn't need.

Hopefully if they reintroduce it, it won't be a lifeless mechanic just thrown in because they want to appease us. I can very well imagine Bethesda sticking in a reputation system that is just as "developed" as Skyrim's and saying "see? we care about our core fan base!" as an excuse.

But yes I agree, Fallout 4 will truly tell us which direction Bethesda is going in.

There is the publisher and the develloper. Two different companies.

The publisher own the franchise and many other franchises, many other genres, like FPS, survival horror etc...

The publisher was interested in the franchise and bought it.

They hired the in-house develloper to make a Fallout because they loved Fallout.

That develloper didn't manage to do a proper Fallout. They called another develloper to make a new one.

Maybe they felt that the develloper have failed and needed someone else to do the job.

Maybe they liked both, but wanted different devellopers to propose their vision. Maybe they would call a third develloper to make the third one.

Maybe they were fully satisfied with their first Fo and only contracted another develloper to make more money quickly.

Maybe none of them satisfied them and they are looking to hire people that could deliver it.

We just don't know.

Only assuming that if they bought Fallout franchise, they had the intend to make "real" Fallout, and got lost with old habits.

Otherwise, why would be the point of so much lawyers fights, if they intended to use their own franchise and add guns in it ?

A franchise called "Elder Scrolls with guns" would have worked the same way. There was no need to buy such a big RPG name.

They fought to get the franchise. It didn't just fell on them. So i assume they care about it, to some extent.

If they care about it, it would make no sense to re-hire Fo3 develloper for Fo4, and tell them to do the same crap.

Take this with a grain of salt, but just to keep the flames of speculation going: http://n4g.com/news/1543670/bethesda-set-for-action-adventure-rpg-announcement-at-gamescom-fallout-4-reveal-imminent

Bethesda set to showcase action-adventure RPG at Gamescon 2014

Dishonored 2. Most likely.

I'll bet its DOOM Utube has a Teaser video out.

Now we know what Bethesda softworks was doing, doesn't look good for FO4.

Bethesda Softworks isn't developing Fallout 4, Bethesda Game Studios is, don't confuse the two. It's not a matter of if, but rather when we get it, but we will get Fallout 4 in due time. Just need to have a little patience.

Wait a minuite, from google

I think there should be ice cream. That way I won't wish for a nuclear winter.

I was thinking if fallout 4 or 5 is in Chicago it would have to be the most technologically advanced place in the wasteland. More than big mountain , sierra Madre , the institute and vault city all rolled in to one. In the good ending of fallout tactics the Midwestern brotherhood of steel has all the factions and a endless robot army and the possible of Enclave recruitment. I say endless because you know the Scribes , mutant scientists and Reavers would all be studying the technology and if the east coast brotherhood can fix liberty prime you know the Midwestern brotherhood can do the same. But I was looking at the robots in tactics and the loadlifter robot was previously used for heavy lifting. that make my think it could be a modified construction robot. So maybe they could be used to fix up Chicago or at least clear some of the debris off the roads near Chicago. Chicago appears in the intro but was nearly completely destroyed in the great war. If Bethesda is doing a game in Chicago it would have to be the biggest fallout game they have done. The way I see it is the Midwestern Brotherhood of steel is the last hope for the people of the wasteland and is the only way the wasteland could be habitable in 2377. The Midwestern brotherhood have the technology and the east coast brotherhood is small and can not do it all. 2377 is only 96 years away.

Styles the Barnaky ending

mutants and humans holding hands

If you have the Barnaky ending then the Midwestern brotherhood would be the same as the east coast brotherhood or the enclave. You are trying to make one big technologically advanced enclave / east coast brotherhood. To do so you would throw away a robot army and half the old factions the reavers , mutants , Beastlords , ghouls and intelligent Deathclaws and a lot more and would make the game one sided. Me I would keep the good ending so you can have the two brotherhoods have a war and see who wins.

I'm not too keen on the robots from tactics but he'll it's better than the androids in fo3

I think they made the androids look a little to lifelike for me. The androids look like all the other characters in the game. They could made the androids look a little different or have a special ability a Laser finger or some thing.

A Fallout android shouldn't look human at all. For an android to fit within the Fallout world it should look more like C3PO from Star Wars than the androids from Blade Runner.

Bethesda will be showing a role playing game

at

August 14 – 17, 2014.

gamescom

http://www.gamescom-cologne.com/en/gamescom/ausstellersuche/suche/suche.php?&fw_goto=aussteller/details&&kid=0015509460&values=%7B%22stichwort%22%3A%22Bethesda%22%2C%22start%22%3A0%7D

The publisher wasn't specifically interested in Fallout, BGS was. When they had Obsidian do the next Fallout it was because of BGS and presumably the motive was to release another Fallout in the long absence of Fallout 4. I highly doubt it was because "the publisher felt BGS ruined Fallout and they personally loved it".

I really really hope this is a fallout 4 reveal....I can't take anymore rumors :'(

Articles are popping up all over saying "The listing says the company [Bethesda] plans make an 'action-adventure & RPG'-related announcement."

This is incredibly frustrating because if you follow the link to the listing you'll notice 2 things.

First off, it says nothing that indicates an "announcement" whatsoever. That's literally just journalists bouncing off of each other and manipulating info.

Second, the only part that says anything along the lines of "action/adventure RPGs" is just a section that provides a general description of the company's content, because duh, they've produced a ton of actin adventure/RPGs like Skyrim and Fallout 3, and that's just what their known for.

These are the most misleading headlines I've seen regarding Fallout so far.

Why would they announce FO4 in Germany? Unless it was developed in Germany. Kind of like 2k aussie developed the newest Borderlands game and not GB.

Why exactly? The point of an android is to look convincingly human.

*The 50's style robot would be a matter of style, but if they were intent on crafting a human looking machine, that 50's style would only be seen on the inside.

It's Dishonored 2, not Fallout 4.

I am not saying the androids should not look like humans but their are no way to tell them apart and have no special ability. It is like they did not try and added a character and call it a android.