[Jake Easom]

Maybe for a map marker type of thing they could have the normal thing going on until you reach a 500 meter wide radius around it or something. Just some kind of area where the marker disappears.

Then if they get rid of it while searching for things, they can give some better hints at where to find something.

[Noraima Vega]

Or... OR! We could simply toggle map markers bein shown on the compass to on and off.
The least complex way dat is.

[des lynam]

on the topic of map markers (sorry if im intruding in someones conversation). My two cents are that well known pre-war locations (lincoln memorial) should be known (but not fast travelable). Because it appears the pip boy is using a pre-war map. But all other locations should be hidden till discovery the compass should just be that. let it point North, south, east, and west. but nothing else.

[Ricky Meehan]

Or... OR! We could simply toggle map markers bein shown on the compass to on and off.
The least complex way dat is.

But it is Bethesda.

[Matthew Warren]

1. Oh yeah definitely, it could work, but with Bethesda? 2. I don't think it can work in any way. FEV has been used in three games now, rehashing old ideas is never good. I had an idea for a mutated race. The US was experiementing with more things than just FEV, another thing was gene-splicing and trying to adapt humans to certain creatures DNA structures for super soldiers of other kinds. Prisoners sentenced to death were sent to this place in Canada where they experiemented on them with the idea of mutating them with lizards so that if successful, a soldier could regenerate an entire arm! Thing is, the great war broke out. The prisoners escaped, and these were not good men at all, and they forcefully fornicated women and reaked havoc. The prisoners themselves never mutated that much, the mutation laid dormant, passive in their gene structure. The women who got impregnated by them on the other hand? They gave birth to something. The Lacerta's/Snake Eyes. If written right then we can have new things without having to resort to FEV over and over. Cause come on. Fallout has to evolve beyond what it first was in it's fictional world. We can't have Enclave, BOS and Super Mutants all the time. All three need to go at some point and make way for new things so that Fallout can move forward, not stagnate. So personally, I see no way FEV could be used again and it being acceptable. Bethesda wasted that chance with Vault 87. [edit] Now if FEV was used as merely a side-thing it could be used though. Like my Lacerta/Snake Eye mutation, one of the ingredients for this successful mutation could have been trace amounts of FEV, whether it was the airbourne or clean FEV sent to the lab can remain a mystery. But it could be used in addition to other things to help out with mutations. But pure FEV? Hell, even contaminated FEV is a strict no-no in my book. Been there, done that. Time for new things and for Super Mutants to die out unless they find a cure for their sterility.

Agreed that it shouldnt rely on everything being recycled all the time. But I do feel there would be some knowledge of FEV out there aside from the actual substance FEV. I guess you're right in that if they are going to go through all the trouble to make some backstory for it they might as well coin some new technique.

DNA seems just as good a way as any other.. Given deathclaw research, i would think there would be a multitude of other things that were being tested out.

[Ella Loapaga]

I would rather just have not found locations just not show up myself. I wouldn't mind, like I have said before, more weapons and armors. As well as more slots for clothing and such, a backpack/pack slot is one thing I would really like to see. As well as more gas masks and masks in general. They can put in some that can be used to intimidate enemies, I always thought that the pint-sized slasher helmet should have made people run in terror.

[Avril Churchill]

on the topic of map markers (sorry if im intruding in someones conversation). My two cents are that well known pre-war locations (lincoln memorial) should be known (but not fast travelable). Because it appears the pip boy is using a pre-war map. But all other locations should be hidden till discovery the compass should just be that. let it point North, south, east, and west. but nothing else.

the first smart post on the subject if I may say so

[saxon]

But it is Bethesda.

Exactly.

But I do feel there would be some knowledge of FEV out there aside from the actual substance FEV.

Idunno about that though.
Navarro was just a foothold into the coast, it didn't have research data.

Oil Rig was blown up.

Mariposa is in ruins, and if anyone excavated it it would be Shi, and I doubt they'll use FEV to create super mutants, they might experiement with it, but they've already seen what super mutants can do so unless a game is placed near San Fransisco.... My god... The fake Fallout 4 trailer is true! D: Bethesda is taking us to San Fran only for the FEV!!!

Vault 87 is likely going to be sealed by Lyons Brotherhood, they aren't interested in FEV, they want to fight super mutants, not make more of them.

The Glow, West-Tek, has probably been scavenged over and over again, whatever data it had has been long lost.

Raven Rock got blown up.

And most likely the Lone Wanderer sided with LB, so Crawler is blown up too.

Personally I see no way the research data could be used.
Every place that could have had the data has been blown up, scavenged or sealed up.

[Robert Bindley]

Exactly.



Idunno about that though.
Navarro was just a foothold into the coast, it didn't have research data.

Oil Rig was blown up.

Mariposa is in ruins, and if anyone excavated it it would be Shi, and I doubt they'll use FEV to create super mutants, they might experiement with it, but they've already seen what super mutants can do so unless a game is placed near San Fransisco.... My god... The fake Fallout 4 trailer is true! D: Bethesda is taking us to San Fran only for the FEV!!!

Vault 87 is likely going to be sealed by Lyons Brotherhood, they aren't interested in FEV, they want to fight super mutants, not make more of them.

The Glow, West-Tek, has probably been scavenged over and over again, whatever data it had has been long lost.

Raven Rock got blown up.

And most likely the Lone Wanderer sided with LB, so Crawler is blown up too.

Personally I see no way the research data could be used.
Every place that could have had the data has been blown up, scavenged or sealed up.

You seem to forgot the good doctor and his ant queen.

[jess hughes]

You seem to forgot the good doctor and his ant queen.

What about them?

[Lisa Robb]

What about them?

Did you not pay attention to what he said? He used FEV to make the ants.

[Iain Lamb]

regarding the fev it's high time for any team working on fallout to show some creativity. how long are we going to endure this poor story.as related op it was done so many times! stop the stupid main quest where you begin searching for something and ends blowing a biological facility

[Ella Loapaga]

Did you not pay attention to what he said? He used FEV to make the ants.

I will not accept that as canon.

[Catherine N]

Exactly.



Idunno about that though.
Navarro was just a foothold into the coast, it didn't have research data.

Oil Rig was blown up.

Mariposa is in ruins, and if anyone excavated it it would be Shi, and I doubt they'll use FEV to create super mutants, they might experiement with it, but they've already seen what super mutants can do so unless a game is placed near San Fransisco.... My god... The fake Fallout 4 trailer is true! D: Bethesda is taking us to San Fran only for the FEV!!!

Vault 87 is likely going to be sealed by Lyons Brotherhood, they aren't interested in FEV, they want to fight super mutants, not make more of them.

The Glow, West-Tek, has probably been scavenged over and over again, whatever data it had has been long lost.

Raven Rock got blown up.

And most likely the Lone Wanderer sided with LB, so Crawler is blown up too.

Personally I see no way the research data could be used.
Every place that could have had the data has been blown up, scavenged or sealed up.

I dunno who was on the e-mail chain when they were first making these discoveries at west-tek and whether or not they adhered to their proprietary information guidelines and weren't working with any spies.

[Flutterby]

fev is everywhere but never contaminated any city in the wasteland....

[Haley Cooper]

What about them?

Then don't consider anything past tactics canon I guess, it's what one of my friends does.

[Shaylee Shaw]

Then don't consider anything past tactics canon I guess, it's what one of my friends does.

I consider other things canon.
FEV in V87, while ridiculous I can accept it.
Enclave being in such numbers in Fallout 3, ridiculous but I can stomach it.
But a random doctor getting his hands of freaking FEV?
Hell no. I will not consider that canon at all.

I dunno who was on the e-mail chain when they were first making these discoveries at west-tek and whether or not they adhered to their proprietary information guidelines and weren't working with any spies.

You think they'd email the schematics for how to make a mutagenic formula to just random people?
They develop the Pan Immunity Virus at West-Tek, nowhere else, then the army took over and a lot of it and copied it's research to Mariposa, shortly after the bombs dropped.
Why would they send out this to others?
If your government is working on let's say a virus that could kill off millions of people, why would they send it to multiple sources?
They'd keep it a tight lipped secret, not advertise it.
Considering their fear and paranoia of the Chinese and the importance of the project I don't see why the FEV schematics would be anywhere else.

[Cool Man Sam]

I consider other things canon.
FEV in V87, while ridiculous I can accept it.
Enclave being in such numbers in Fallout 3, ridiculous but I can stomach it.
But a random doctor getting his hands of freaking FEV?
Hell no. I will not consider that canon at all.



You think they'd email the schematics for how to make a mutagenic formula to just random people?
They develop the Pan Immunity Virus at West-Tek, nowhere else, then the army took over and a lot of it and copied it's research to Mariposa, shortly after the bombs dropped.
Why would they send out this to others?
If your government is working on let's say a virus that could kill off millions of people, why would they send it to multiple sources?
They'd keep it a tight lipped secret, not advertise it.
Considering their fear and paranoia of the Chinese and the importance of the project I don't see why the FEV schematics would be anywhere else.

I guess that svcks for you.

[Vicki Gunn]

Exactly

Therefore making an easy decision ad an option is only plausible for them

But u think that would. be a cool selling point for the game "make it your way" and they could have tons of them.

[~Sylvia~]

You think theyd email the schematics for how to make a mutagenic formula to just random people?

I most certainly dont think that they would just be mailing info to random people, But I also know that even today there are people that get busted for espionage on the regs. ANd yes, with military contracts that hold the lives of milions in the balance. Its just the way things are. Thats why there are agencies set up specifically to prevent espionage. Nothing ever works 100% of the time, though.

They develop the Pan Immunity Virus at West-Tek, nowhere else, then the army took over and a lot of it and copied it's research to Mariposa, shortly after the bombs dropped.
Why would they send out this to others?

I am not saying they did, or would send it out to others.
I am saying that especially when its war time, there are spies about. Spies dont just infiltrate a company or government, sometimes they are turned from internal sources
It happens to this day.

If your government is working on lets say a virus that could kill off millions of people, why would they send it to multiple sources?

Theyd keep it a tight lipped secret, not advertise it.
Considering their fear and paranoia of the Chinese and the importance of the project I don't see why the FEV schematics would be anywhere else.

The saying "Loose lips sink ships" implies that sometimes lips are loose.
Originally it was meant to stop the New Plague.
not exactly low profile stuff. But even then, there are people with pretty high clearance levels that have been caught spying, you know. , High level spies are great because no on suspects them and they can get the choicest information. The idea is not always to send spies in looking for something specic, rather they keep their ears open and wait for something important to come along and then give it their attention and feed info where it needs to go..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_spies



"February 2077: FEV Research is leaked to the world through an unknown source. Protests in many major cities and governments around the world, as well as accusations that the U.S. was responsible for the New Plague. F.E.V. is seen as the threat, and serves only to fuel tensions. The governments of the world fear what the U.S. is up to. Speculating anything from trying to make a breed of super soldier, to trying to make a master race, they begin to panic."

Information about FEV testing certainly did get out so there goes tight lipped.-ness. What and how much was known to some before everyone knew- thats the question.


Given the way things are,a case could be made for expionage. IF they wanted to make one.
I did agree with you though, that if they were to make up a huge backstory on how FEV got somewhere else, they might as well come up with something new.

[Angela]

I think Beth could really learn from the morally ambiguous decision making in the Witcher series. Almost everything you do in that game has consequenses, sometimes they even make you step back and ask yourself "was it all worth it?". Decisions like that could really benefit a Beth Fallout game. Also this is kind of nit picky but i want the character to have some since of physical weight and existence in the world. Small things like the usual addition of head bobble and being able to look down and see your body help, but what really ties it together to make you feel like you actually are in the game are the animations. Right now when you crouch it looks like a camera just "clicks" to a lower level, your camera should actually "feel" like how a real person would crouch and when your running and go to a sudden crouch you shouldn't just instantly slow down there should be a small slide. Movement is what really needs helps too, Fallout 3 and NV literally feel and look like your floating, this is just awkward for me I guess and just takes me out of the game when I notice it. I guess I'm just kinda OCD about it though.

[Laura Elizabeth]

Wow that post is really muffed up with ()%#/%()=#.
I might read it if you edit it.

[joeK]

Wow that post is really muffed up with ()%#/%()=#.
I might read it if you edit it.

give it a whirl

[Crystal Clear]

What I think would be cool is to start your own community having people move in build there houses hire guards have a bunch of super mutants come in and raid the place maybe have a buesniess selling goods. Just make it feel more real maybe Anamations for like drinking water or eating food and if you don't want it just switch it off in settings

[Joanne Crump]

Invest some serius dime into story and bugs. After being majorly dissapointed by Mass Effect 3's ending many fans will likely flock to a better story teller. *hint hint* why not make that you? Oh and its crazy, but you guys need more voice actors again. Its weird how this happens to you... That is all for now....