Fallout 4: Speculation, Suggestions & Ideas - Thread #58

Post » Thu May 03, 2012 11:12 am

I really like the weapons in Metro as well, and I don't see why we don't have more wasteland made weapons in Fallout either. All the engineers, scientist's, gunsmith's, and tech junkies couldn't all have died or been in Vaults. Wasteland made weapons both energy and regular small arms should be all over, we have already seen modifications for these weapons done by wastelanders after all. And just think what they could have done with fission cells and crossbows or harpoon guns!!! And think of all the ball bearing that could be used as ammo that are just lying about, or even marbles. What we need to do is start emailing Bethesda with weapons ideas, maybe they will look at them and think NICE and put them in. Think about this, a fission powered crossbow with different types of ammo including a exploding arrows that could be used to kill things or blow up traps, rocks, barriers so that we can progress to other areas.

Well, at the same time, the West Coast, where most of Fallout has been set so far, is becoming increasingly civilized, it wouldn't make sense to be using improvised weapons when you have factory-grade weapons available in sufficient quantities. If Bethedsa decides to take Fallout back to the East Coast, I could see it then.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 1:25 pm

A new reputation: Feared.
When you are Feared, civilans and maybe military flee from you instead of fighting even though they know they don't stand a chance.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 7:31 am

A new reputation: Feared.
When you are Feared, civilans and maybe military flee from you instead of fighting even though they know they don't stand a chance.
How would we reset this..

What I want..:
Keep the companion wheel.
Factions and faction reputation.
Comments on the actions your toon undertakes by NPC's. And a neutral radio presenter.. He/She can be ironic or humoristic.. But shouldn't pass judgement. IE less GNR, more RNV but with a way better presenter..
Bring back repair like it was in FO3, it was sometimes frustrating... but at least it meant you to invest in the skill to get your armor and weapons in full health.
Build on the Lore instead of expending it... In other words.. See decaying factions and the rise of new ones..
If you inlcude kids.. make the kids.. not annoying NPC's The only npc's which felt really like children...were the Boomer kids in FO NV (mind you I am talking about the Beth era.. and their likely continuation)
Controversial ones:
Weapon skills should make a larger impact: IE I should not be able to weild a supersledge ( or severly hindered by it) if I didn't invest in melee... or a minigun or AMR for that matter..
Europe... (no that is a joke... but I do miss our English impaired poster)
Transfer one element from HC to casual...: Stims are no longer able to heal crippled limbs.. Dr Bags, Hydra or a Dr. is needed..
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 1:16 pm

i pray to every god of every religion that these threads are taken into consideration
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 3:37 pm

Better dialogue. I'm not sure what the term is for this but different options all having the same outcome? Really Bethesda? Let there be a collaberation between you and Obsidian! Let Obsdian handle the dialogue and quests (For the most part) while Bethesda handle the gameplay mechanics, exploration and setting.

There. Now we have a game that has Chris Avellones phenomonal writing and (VERY hopefully) Tim Cains awesome ideas and Bethesdas exploration. Hooray!
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 7:39 am

Better dialogue. I'm not sure what the term is for this but different options all having the same outcome? Really Bethesda? Let there be a collaberation between you and Obsidian! Let Obsdian handle the dialogue and quests (For the most part) while Bethesda handle the gameplay mechanics, exploration and setting.

There. Now we have a game that has Chris Avellones phenomonal writing and (VERY hopefully) Tim Cains awesome ideas and Bethesdas exploration. Hooray!
*plays new vegas*....No.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 3:45 am

*plays new vegas*....No.
Eloquent in its brevity.

(How many times is that now?)
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 12:29 pm

*plays new vegas*....No.
Apparently you're illiterate and can't read and then you posted something that isn't relevant.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 1:43 pm

Alright, I have a lot of ideas brewing up inside my brain, but let's start with the most important. I hear rumors that Bethesda is using a new engine for Fallout 4, and that's good, because the one the current games use has massive problems besides the overwhelming glitches. So here are some things I want addressed from an engine perspective:

Customization: Models seriously need to be reworked asthetically. Bethesda needs to get a new modeller... Its been almost a trademark for their games to feature ugly people even when you make them yourself. Fallout 3 disgusted me, all the female faces were the same as men faces, they even had beard shadows... What? Especially the African Americans... I think Bethesda needs to review some model mags to remind themselves what a woman actually looks like. The women in this game are ugly as all hell... LOL Let the modders design the character models or something.
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This was what an every day gamer and PC modder was able to accomplish.(Above)

Improvement: The ability to colour common costumes. I mean, whats the point of having 10 Marc outfits just for them to look all the same? We should? be able to paint them or change the shade of the colours. Fable has the ink system I mean. (The robot in your hotel room can cut your hair? so why cant he dye your common clothing)
(Common: Clothing that isn’t story or mission related)
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Maybe even go as far as dividing up the body aparts like:
(Upperbody/lowerbody/Arms/Hands/Legs/Feet)
Then we'd be able to customize everything and mix or match. With the body division we could also get accesories like Holsters and ammunition belts. Rather then just having the weapon floating in air or you just whip it our from out of no where.)


Improvement:Jesus... more hair styles... New Vegas didn't even do that..
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And if hair could actually move a bit or bounce or something it would be a whole lot better.

Game Design: A more dark and gloomy atmosphere, like fallout 3(had that super dark scary feeling over new vegas. I didn't like most of the emptiness and repetitive feel it had. Sometimes there's barley anyone to kill when you get thirsty. We also need more story driven side quests like what fallout 3 had, with the lost children or robot guy or the guy in love with the dumb coke girl.. mini stories. I personally found New vegas boring because most quests were just "Go here, get this, come back" (Repeat) My problem with Vegas was that it really did not feel like a fallout, JUST a western with big guns and electricity.

NPCs / Animation: Needs some actual life in them. The characters in the game just stare at you lifelessly with their hands at their sides for the majority of the conversations (cutscenes, few as they are, are exempt) but don't even change their facial expressions when you talk to them. If I insult them, then why do they still have that blank face? I think they should redo the conversation engine.
And also, whats the point of the "Black Widow / Lady Killrt" Perk if you hardly actually get chances to use it? I say for that perk to actually be of use, you should get to "flirt" with anyone that barders information of supplies. If someone stared at me with their arms pinned to their sides while delivering a particularly lively monologue in real life, I would question their sanity. Fallout 3 is portrayed as a realistic game but, unless something happened to mankind as a collective species post-nuking that now prevents them from expressing emotion through anything but their voices, my verdict on the characters remains the same: play a lively voice through a corpse and its just a corpse singing Dancing in the Rain.
Don't even get me started with the animals, the dogs move like barbie dolls on strings when they run and they attack you like a jack-in-the-box. It would be a much better enhancement if when they attack you, a QTE starts where they are biting you and dragging you away as you have to shoot them off your legs.

Also, when a character is on fire.. they should act like they are on fire.. meaning they run around wildly flailing their arms out and screaming until it goes out... Fire barely made people flinch in the past games.

Gameplay Rework:
  • Raise the Level Cap to 50.
  • Feral Goals should act like Zombies. (In most Zombie games, they grab you and try to eat you alive leaving you only to mash your way out of their grip to kill them, so rather then them slapping you 10 feed away, they should try to kill you in the same way.
  • A Sprint option + Fatigue Meter for short speed up bursts when travelling / At times it feels like the character walks too slow, In places where you cant quick travel like in subway tunnels or etc. but do not add vehicles.
  • A Better Map system: Fallout's maps within buildings are horrible, it doesn't tell you where you really are or what floor you're on.
  • Keep the Faction respect, Karma System and Costume disguise System used in Fallout New Vegas.
Update the VATS System: make it an X-ray like in Arkham Asylum when you zoom in on body parts. Show the skeleton.
And instead of making it so your weapons skills determine whether or not you hit the enemy in real-time combat, just make it determine accuracy. I understand you're trying to make it 'Fallout-y', but in the context of a first person shooter it doesn't work very well. Also, make it so shooting people's limbs in VATS has more benefits. Crippling someone's arm or leg does jack-[censored]. You're better off aiming for the head or torso in every single case. Instead, make it so crippling an enemies leg makes them fall down and have them try to crawl away or something, thus giving you time escape or advance for a better shot, or shooting their arm makes them unable to use that arm, making two handed weapons either impossible to use or incredibly inaccurate. Maybe with a perk you could even go as far as:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EGGZxYIvxE (NFL Bitz internal injuries) as an execution move.

Enviroment / Character Status wise:
I like the idea of having more intense radiation effects where you need to use special gas masks. Radiation in Fallout is so passive and doesn't even affect the gameplay at all despite it being the biggest complaint by the NPCs, the only time I actually need to use Rad-X and RadAway is when I walk through water or swim a mile, and there are very few of cases. Other than that, Radiation is practically a worthless stat, like Sleep. They should either have many more parts of the map (including ones that people actually pass through, not far off locations in the middle of nowhere) or giant areas affected by it. Radiation should do something to the enviroment and how it affects you. Speaking about Radiation needing to have more impact, Sleep Deprivation, Starvation, and Hydration need to be much more important stats. They were a nice touch, but they barely affected me and I had way too many supplies to deal with them. hardcoe or not, they need to make supplies MUCH less common the next time around, even in the first hour of gameplay I can get all the food and water I need for the rest of my entire life. Same with medical
supplies and ammo. That or at least make them less effective. (Stores though need to restock their supplies after a few days, its so irritating when I go to a store after a week and I still see my stuff I sold to them still there and no new material.


Companion storylines - Many new Vegas companions have interesting quests, dialogues, why not a series of quests like a mini campaign, which will develop your companion throughout the game.


Environment / Gameplay wise: I want a real sense of danger in the world. New Vegas had areas inhabited by cazadores, deathclaws, or giant radscorpions to keep you from getting to particular areas too fast, but as long as you kept to the main roads, the worst you'd encounter is a bloatfly or 2 wolves. I think it would be cool if the nights were dangerous enough to make you think, like if you knew that packs of a dozen or more wolves as well as the occasional deathclaw would surely be out soon. Unless you were a high level, you'd almost be either forced to find a safe city to stay or find some shelter, which has probably already been taken by a group of bandits or raiders try to rob you.


PC Mods / Add into the actual Game: - The ability to become a ghoul or Feral Ghoul like vampires are to Elder Scrolls. There's a mod on youtube that shows the character drinking irradiated water so much or wading through it until max irradiation poison, and they get a message similar to the vampire one that says they're turning into a ghoul. That should be made into the game. (To be a Feral Ghoul, you have to have the Cannibalism perk.)

Enemy Variety: In some mods I've seen, people have done things like script missions where you get a Baby-Death Claw as a follower option after you have to beat it's mother. A Death Claw Matriarch, (A modded boss fight with a tomato red death Claw the size of those behemoth guys) I've also seen a mod where you fight a King-Rad Scorpion, about the size of a normal death claws.

Improvement: - Rather then a bloody explosion, they should make the bloody mess decapitate you but not explode into pieces unless its a 1-hit kill. They should do what gears of war does where characters can lose their torso or bottoms and they can bleed out to death.


Better Animations: Adding things that aren't shown:
Improvement: I think for starters they need to update their graphics. This isn't 2004. Some of it looks good, but most of it looks like last gen at its best compared to current gen games released years prior. (BIOSHOCK, and even Turok) Honestly, It's just a matter of the studio making the best of what they? have at their disposal. It's not hard to hold back a LITTLE BIT on the over world to make the rest of the game look good. Why not go for some photo realism now like GTA? Keep up with the times and actually animate the characters with more life... i also hate seeing characters feet slide on the floor when they run just because they can't make a sharp-turn, or the fact that your character runs in a weird looking way, as if one leg was longer then the other or something... If anything bethesda needs to go back and rerecord how real walking and running actually look like.

Children should also actually look like children as well.
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(Current) (PC/Mod)


Eating: showing the character Eating something they choose to eat.. like in red dead redemption it shows you skinning an animal. Not graphically but it shows you going something bloody rather then just the motion of it and your face staying still. I don’t want to use my imagination for everything.
Grabbing: An actual hand grabbing something I pick up would be nice, its always been so hard to control with a floating object. You can't hold it still and you drop it real easily.

Death Scenes: Seriously, still using the rag doll animations? Why not just have the enemy execute you instead? or blow you into a bloody mess more often then once in a long while.

Better Camera and 3rd Person Mobility.. I purpose a camera change. Rather then the 3D aspect be directly over the shoulder, it should be full view like in Tomb Raider/Assassin's Creed or Uncharted or basically any Action/Adventure/RPG... but have the camera distance adjustable.
Not to mention a "Sprint" feature, I swear some times it takes for ever to get to places that you can't quick travel to. I don't want vehicles but we need running at least.


Imported Ideas?
Hostage Grab? (Bad Karma / Perk) (Like when you go behind someone that has no gun and you hold them and point yours. Like Saints Row?)

A Perk that allows you to preform executions like in Skyrim.

AI Reactive? For starters we sure as hell need better AI.. ones that don't get stuck or that attack you even after you put your weapon away. The feature in that "I am Alive" game would be nice, like if someone's coming at you with a Knife, and you hold out a gun and they back up... but if you don't fire at them after a few seconds they come after you. The AI should also have more interaction with each other, in King Kong, if you kill an anemy in a crowd or if an AI kills another, they eat them right after.

King Kong's "Nature System." In the King kong game, there was the feature where it involved the food chain as a survival aspect. It was basically, you get a melee weapon, find the body of a small animal flying by like a dragonfly or maggot, you kill it and the body stays on the melee weapon. Then when a larger animal comes by, you can throw, the weapon with the food on it at the animal chasing you and they will go after the food to eat it rather then you. They ignore you for a few seconds eating the "bait" so you can walk by them. (This would work best with a nailboard)
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 7:04 pm

All i want in fallout 4 is being able to get married again like in fallout 2




Is that to much to ask for?
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 6:53 pm

All i want in fallout 4 is being able to get married again like in fallout 2
Is that to much to ask for?
But what can you actually do with a family? Followers in this series die faster then the actual enemies. It won't be fun. It would be nice to have your family travel with you I suppose but... the only way they can do that an make it last honestly is if they incorperate a "revival" system similar to saints row where you can bring back unconcious followers rather then have them die in 2 shots.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 10:10 am

All i want in fallout 4 is being able to get married again like in fallout 2




Is that to much to ask for?

What would be the point to it though? In Fallout 2, it played a part in the ending, which was somewhat canonized in New Vegas with the Chosen One's child being a big deal in New Reno.

But what would be the point of marriage in FO4? If it's like Skyrim's marriage system, where it's really nothing more than a meaningless part of a possible role play, and has no effect on the game world, I don't want marriage. I'm much more for the lonely bachelor/bachelorette, than the wandering husband/wife who's only interaction with his/her spouse is to get some money and whatnot.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 10:05 am

All i want in fallout 4 is being able to get married again like in fallout 2




Is that to much to ask for?
Would this help to make you have a reason to fight? or serve to bring the player char up in status?
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 8:10 am

Animals that feed on corpses, "a bit" tougher HC mode, diseases, joinable raider group/clan, some means of transport, deadlier traps, a settlement that can be changed from law abiding to anarcihst crime center.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 6:55 am

I wouldn't want cars, it would be more like borderlands or rage, i didnt really like that part of those games, and if there was a bicycle, you would have to get off first when you are being attacked. I would pick an east coast area, DC was perfect but now we gotta go somewhere else
hmmmm, a bycicle, i like that one. :P to dismount, you should be able to throw the bike in stead of getting of of it nicely :P
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 8:14 am

What would be the point to it though? In Fallout 2, it played a part in the ending, which was somewhat canonized in New Vegas with the Chosen One's child being a big deal in New Reno.

But what would be the point of marriage in FO4? If it's like Skyrim's marriage system, where it's really nothing more than a meaningless part of a possible role play, and has no effect on the game world, I don't want marriage. I'm much more for the lonely bachelor/bachelorette, than the wandering husband/wife who's only interaction with his/her spouse is to get some money and whatnot.

Hey I got a idea if you don't wanna get married? Don't get married simple as that it's doesn't mean they should just entirely take it out of the game just because some people won't get married it adds to the roleplaying that people do to give your character to reason to fight
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 1:21 pm

Hey I got a idea if you don't wanna get married? Don't get married simple as that it's doesn't mean they should just entirely take it out of the game just because some people won't get married it adds to the roleplaying that people do to give your character to reason to fight
Why have it in the game if it doesn't have any purpose?
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 12:28 pm

Hey I got a idea if you don't wanna get married? Don't get married simple as that it's doesn't mean they should just entirely take it out of the game just because some people won't get married it adds to the roleplaying that people do to give your character to reason to fight
Thats to hard to comprehend for some I guess.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 11:39 am

Some of these things should, imo, be considered and searched for possibilities from while making the game and designing the gameplay:

General gameplay suggestions (again -- but updated):
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Here's some of my ideas on along which lines I would like some aspects of Fallout 4 to be made (I posted this before Fallout: New Vegas was even annouced, and several times again since then, but made some changes so I'm not just reposting the same thing over and over again). Whether or not all the following would actually work in the game, is beyond me as I'm not a game designer, but at least to me it sounds decent on paper for altering the current form of FPS gameplay.
The WALL OF TEXT:

A minimenu:

There would be a minimenusystem that would trigger various functions needed during the gameplay. Pressing (for example) the mousewheel would open a dropdown menu (somewhat similiar to Fallout 1 and Fallout 2) beside the cursor that would present commands like Enter Worldmap, Heal, Heal Other, Repair, Rest/Wait etc. If well implemented, this could potentially offer a greater gameplay diversity through bigger possibilities for direct skilluses in several situations. Available commands would be highlighted and non-available would be greyed out.


General gameplay:

The general gameplay would be quite similiar to F3 and F:NV. You roam around the wastes doing quests and exploring. But combat would be less frequent unless the player decides otherwise - in other words, you could pick some of your random fights. (Though I'd very, very much prefer it, I'm not suggesting ISO/TB gameplay, since I don't believe for a second that Beth would implement it no matter what. :dry: )

This could partly be handled through wildlife AI, which would be set less aggressive in general. An aggression stat would be implemented which would vary from species to species - from completely neutral (only defensive combat) to total aggression (hostility almost immediately). The animals would have their own immediate surroundings, or personal spaces, somewhat like in Risen and Gothic series, and partly in F:NV. Get too close and you get a warning sign from the critter giving you time to get out of their space, linger and be chased off (or be attacked, if you don't flee). The radius of the space and the time you are tolerated in it would depend on the critter.

The mainquest would be scaled to a certain degree through chaptering it (not visibly, as in presenting a loadscreen: Chapter 1: In which you slither out from the uaginal cavity and learn the first lessons of life, but through certain major events through the main quest). And after those, the game would replaces some of the lower level enemies with higher level ones in the MQ areas - defeating which (if not gettin past by other means) would require you to level up some more. Or through a nonlinear levelscalingsystem where, for example, when one starts the game at level one, the enemies in the levelscaled zones would range from 1 to 10, and after one hits somewhere between levels 12 to 15 (which ever works the best) some of the lower level creatures scale up to about level 18 to 25 (but not all, to not make the world appearing to spin around the player too much). This would offer both, challenge and sense of progression to the player, as one becomes better than the current enemies before they scale up again.

There wouldn't be any quest- or enemycompasses, but there would be (toggleable, perhaps) minimap in which you could see the living beings in immediate vicinity. Perception would determine the range in which you see things, and with a perk (with appropriate requirements - outdoorsman and perception, for example) you could tell the difference between friendly (green dot), neutral (yellow dot) and hostile (red dot) targets.

The questcompass would be replaced by mere markers on the map which would point towards a general area instead of the exact target. And with that, the quest descriptions would be more accurate.

The wrist pipboy would be scrapped and replaced by a more handheld PDI like contraption, which would offer a more userfriendly inventorysystem (something like mix of what Morrowind or S.T.A.L.K.E.R. had, for example) with less scrolling while still holding the tabs to sort items by their nature, a one page charactersheet much akin to the original games. Opening inventory wouldn't pause the game (could be tied to difficulty - normal and beyond: No inventorypause, for example), but slow the time and not give extra resistances (adjustable through perks, slow time more, give some resistances, etc). All actions during combat but shooting and moving would cost action points (opening inventory, using items inside it, using quick keys, etc).

Skillcap would remain at 100, but the cost to raise them would rise as follows: 1-50 1:1, 51-75 2:1, 76-100 3:1, the point being, the better you get the more difficult it is to get even better - this would make a maxed skill equal to skillcap of 175 - and I think it'd be easier to utilize the full scale of the skill, if it caps at 100 (instead of having skills cap at 200 or 300). Also, the gaps between levels would be raised:

How it is now (first number is the level, the second XP needed to reach the level from previous point, the third is total amount of XP needed to reach that level):

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z=n+(y+150)
z=xp for next lvl
n=xp 'til prev lvl
y=previous xp raise

2 - 200 - 200
3 - 350 - 550
4 - 500 - 1,050
5 - 650 - 1,700
6 - 800 - 2,500
7 - 950 - 3,450
8 - 1100 - 4,550
9 - 1250 - 5,800
10 - 1400 - 7,200
11 - 1550 - 8,750
12 - 1700 - 10,450
13 - 1850 - 12,300
14 - 2000 - 14,300
15 - 2150 - 16,450
16 - 2300 - 18,750
17 - 2450 - 21,200
18 - 2600 - 23,800
19 - 2750 - 26,550
20 - 2900 - 29,450
21 - 3050 - 32,500
22 - 3200 - 35,700
23 - 3350 - 39,050
24 - 3500 - 42,550
25 - 3650 - 46,200
26 - 3800 - 50,000
27 - 3950 - 53,950
28 - 4100 - 58,050
29 - 4250 - 62,300
30 - 4400 - 66,700
How it should be (first number is the level, the second XP needed to reach the level from previous point, the third is total amount of XP needed to reach that level) for example:

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z=n+(y+200)
z=xp for next lvl
n=xp 'til prev lvl
y=previous xp raise

2 - 200 - 200
3 - 400 - 600
4 - 600 - 1,200
5 - 800 - 2,000
6 - 1000 - 3,000
7 - 1200 - 4,200
8 - 1400 - 5,600
9 - 1600 - 7,200
10 - 1800 - 9,000
11 - 2000 - 11,000
12 - 2200 - 13,200
13 - 2400 - 15,600
14 - 2600 - 18,200
15 - 2800 - 21,000
16 - 3000 - 24,000
17 - 3200 - 27,200
18 - 3400 - 30,600
19 - 3600 - 34,200
20 - 3800 - 38,000
21 - 4000 - 42,000
22 - 4200 - 46,200
23 - 4400 - 50,600
24 - 4600 - 55,200
25 - 4800 - 60,000
26 - 5000 - 65,000
27 - 5200 - 70,200
28 - 5400 - 75,400
29 - 5600 - 81,000
30 - 5800 - 86,800
31 - 6000 - 92,800
...and so on up to, say 50The formula I made may not be correct, but the point remains.


Map and Travelling:

A return to the classic worldmap system (with some tweaks to make it look more... erm, "modern"). The actual FPP/TPP playground area would be roughly about 2x or 3x the size of Fallout New Vegas; and the area is divided into 5-7 (or so) hubs scattered in the worldmap which vary in size and content. General gameplay in those would be about the same as in F3 and F:NV, run around and do local quests and explore.

When you enter the node you could spawn at any "formidable" (as in settlementlike in size) location you've already found. The first time entering a node you would spawn at the side of the map on special spawnpoint for that purpose (which could be used later on too, of course).

Outdoorsmanskill is reintroduced (or merged within the Survival skill) and works similiarly to Fallout 1&2 with the difference that nonhostile encounters are always avoidable should the player so decide (to decrease the amount of loadscreens).

The worldmap itself is zoned in couple of ways:
- The farther away from the starting position, the harder the enemies and vice versa; but there is still a (small) chance to encounter harder enemies on starting grounds and vice versa, based on outdoorsmanskill, luck and placement of the zone (but still keeping the MQ areas within reasonable range of enemies).
- The map is zoned into territories, which each have their set of unique enemies as well as a few commonones that can be found on every zone.

Each zone has about 5-7 small maps for random/special encounters, which are either hostile or nonhostile, and are based on the topography of the location in the worldmap and the contents of the encouters would be based on the zone in which it occurs.

The visitable locations on map would be as follows: A settlement - with explorable wasteland around it to provide smaller sidequest and exploring. Or just a visitable location like a majorsized building, militarybase, factory etc. They could even include two settlements, but in general all towns would be much bigger than those in Fallout 3 or New Vegas.

Each settlement has its own set of architecture (not too different from other settlements, but so that one can tell the difference), general theme and mindsets. These are small things, but they would add a lot of variety to the game.

Entering worldmap from a node would happen through the edges of the map. In Fallout 3, when you bumb to an edge of the map, you get a popup message that says: "you cannot go further that way" - now it would be like this: "e) enter worldmap".

To not have to always run to the edge of a map, you could use the minimenu command "Enter Worldmap", which could not be used indoors, during combat or if there are enemies nearby. However, escaping combat through the edge of the map would be possible.

Fasttravel through world map would offer options for pacing (could be enabled by a perk, or be an ability from the get go). Such as "Cautious", "Casual", and "Rushing". Where "Casual" would be the normal travelspeed with no bonuses or hits, "Cautious" a much slower, but with giving a bonus to outdoorsman in determining avoidance of an encounter, and "Rushing" much faster, but with giving a hit to outdoorsman. There would also be related quests, solving which could be easier by utilizing this system (to make it have a bigger point).


Repairing:

Repairing happens either with repairkits, by gunsmiths in towns/caravans, or by a duplicate.

The kits would repair a fixed and relatively large amount of CND and have limited amount of succesful uses (and would offer a small bonus to the skill and crit. failure) each, but they would be expensive to buy, weight a somewhat hefty amount and would also be weakened and eventually broken by a certain amount of critical failures and general wear. Gunsmiths and repairmen would be very expensive but would get the job done no matter what. A duplicate would repair a small amount of CND (with no bonuses or hits to skill or crit. chance) so that you'd have to weigh the benefit of losing the weapons monetary value against the increase in CND (at least at early stages of the game).

Success in repairing is dependant on repairskill (a diceroll happens, dreadful I know). And the repairing takes a certain amount of time (few seconds) depending on the chance of success.

One would now be able to repair guns and armor beyond his/her skill but the further above the skill they go the harder they would get to repair. The math is irrelevant (as long as it complements the premise), but here's a quick idea on how it could go:

After the guns/armors condition is above the skill, the amount going above is turned into percentages that is taken away from the skill. IE: skill = 30 and rifles condition = 80. Condition - skill = 50. 50% of skill (30) is 15. So trying to repair a weapon in condition of 80 with a repairskill of 30 would give a chance of success of 15%. This is not necesserely realistic, but it is assuming that the more shiny the condition gets, the more difficult (but not impossible) it would be to repair it further.

Guns and armor would also have a chance for a critical failure if an attempt to repair fails. Critical failure, instead of repairing the gun, has a reverse effect. The chance would be from 1% to 10% (depending on the weapon) if a trait or a perk doesn't raise/lower it.

The increased hardship of repairing would be compensated via much slower degredation rate (based on the weapon, of course), though the effects of CND (jamming during firing, reloading disorders, rate of fire, damage, buying/selling values) would also be much bigger and frequent.

There would also be a possibility to repair broken robots or computers or what ever there is to repair, by pointing the target opening minimenu and selecting repair.

Also, while repairing would work much like explained above (the 1-100 CND scale would remain in the background to provide for it but all effects would be tied to the 20% thresholds - when attempting to repair, you'd see the successrate according to how the 1-100 scale behind the screen), the visible item health would be changed to 1-5 scale, to offer more robust effects.

The weapon health would be changed from being a 1-100 scale to 1-5 scale and give each rank more profound effects on the weapon, additionally I'd hide the item health-o-meter and add a title in front of the item name so that one never knows exactly where their weapon health goes.

Example:

- Well Maintained Assault rifle or Fine Assault Rilfe (CND 5; well maintained bonus: accuracy +5%, no disorders, -5% from critical failure chance))
-> Assault rifle (CND 4; assault rifle at its default condition, no extra bonuses, but 5% chance of jam)
-> Dirty assault rifle (CND 3; -5% to accuracy, -10% to rate of fire, 15% chance of jam, 10% higher chance of "critical failure")
-> Worn Assault rifle (CND 2; -10% to accuracy, -10% to rate of fire, 20% chance of jam, 15% critical failure chance)
-> Crummy Assault rifle (CND 1; -20% to accuracy, -15% to rate of fire, 25% chance of jamming, 20% chance of critical failure)
-> Broken Assault rifle (CND 0; no shooting with this piece of [censored] anymore, no repairing it either, skilled weaponsmith NPC's could repair it at a cost up to CND 2, or offer a few caps from the spare parts)

With each rank, while going downwards, requiring varying degrees of usage. And Repairing (success and amount of repair (from half a rank to 1 rank) would happen through skillchance affected by certain factors (Gun cnd, duplicate cnd, repairkit, skill level, etc). CND 5 would be a high skill privilege reachable by no lower than 80 in repair.

I would boost all the negative effects and make them count much higher in combat.

Additionally I would add cleaning kits to add a slight timed bonuses to the weapons (-> Clean worn assault rifle: cleaned bonus +5% accuracy, +5% rate of fire, -10% jamming, for example).

With Melee and armed HtH the effects would consist of damage reduction, and higher critical failure rate (which would break the weapon).
With Armors the effects would consist of lowered DT and DR and lowered "social status" (when going on in really crummy gear, people initially think your a vagran or a bum just loitering around).


Healing & drugs:

Stimpak usage would be animated, so no more smashing a quick key for dozens of stims in few seconds (I like this method more than the concept of heal overtime from HC-mode of F:NV). The speed of the animation would be dependant of the related skill (doctor). More over stims now would always heal the same amount (no skill effect in there), and they would come in two variations: stimpaks and superstimpaks. Both of which would be rare and expensive (so that you cannot live off of them, but also have to rely on other methods of healing) and superstims much more so than ordinary stims.

The player would have a tolerance meter which would measure how much the player can medicate himself before overdosing. Overdosing would cause an instant loss of health according to how much the limit is surpassed and would also cause some visual distortions and statloss. The effect would last for a while and the time would be depending on endurance and doctor skill (and perks/traits that would modify it). The tolerance meter slowly lowers itself after the medication is done, and the magnitude it is filled is dependant on the drug used (powerful drugs - like Jet and superstims for example - obviously fill it more quickly), related skill and perks/traits modifying it. Using food as a healer would not affect the tolerance meter, but food would have a heal-over-time effect.

Doctorskill would be reintroduced and so would manual healing. Manual healing would be similiar to Fallout 1 & 2 (only a few uses/24hours - they would take few in-game hours to be completed - success is determined by skill), and couldn't be used in combat or when enemies are nearby. Healing cripples wouldn't be possible with stims or sleeping, but would require manual healing and the ability to heal cripples would be dependant of the doctorskill and the skillrequirements of the crippled bodypart (head and torso would be harder to treat than legs and hands), otherwise a doctor is a must see.

Manual healing would be entered by the minimenu, which would also have the "heal other" option to heal a companion or other alive being in need of assistance.

Healing through sleeping would work similiarly to Fallout 1 & 2.

Addiction would need a doctor or a certain amount (pretty long) of time to heal. Radiation poisoning needs a doctor or radaway (which would be rare and expensive).


Gunplay & VATS (should it be implemented):

Gunskills would now have much heavier effect on waivering and general accuracy than what it is in F3, utilizing the skill and STR requirement system from New Vegas (but more heavyhandedly). In addition, the players stance, movement, weapons type and recoil also would affect it.

The normal (according to skill) situation would be standing still and aiming through iron sights (firing from hip would give a large hit on accuracy). Crouching would give a small bonus to accuracy and going prone would give a slightly bigger bonus (with the bonus from aiming coming on top of that). The tradeoff with going prone and being accurate would be extremely slow moving and turning, and it would take its time for the player to get up and ready the weapon again. Firing from the hip would cause bigger spread. Movement would also give a hit to accuracy -- the faster you move, the bigger the waivering with ironsights and spread with hipfiring. Recoil would work dynamically based on the gun used, and would throw the aim off a bit with each shot (while bursting, the amount of recoil per shot would stack up eventually leading to firing straight up -- with hipfire, the "offaim" would be a bit smaller, but the spread would increase).

Guns would do generally more damage and the damagestats would be ranges. IE: Huntingrifle - dmg 11-20, like in Fallout 1&2, but with growth of related skill raising the minimum amount closer to the maximum (though not as far as up to having a static damage, there would always be some range left).

The combat overall would go through a total overhaul. No more run 'n gun FPS bullsh*t but more slowpaced, focused and tactical. A RTwP/TB (optable) setup with full control over the player character and partymembers would be nice. But of course that ain't gonna happen since nothing but horrid FPS twitching is viable in the gaming market anymore, and Bethesda does not deviate for their 15 year old formula...

So instead, actionpoints would count in combat (suggested before by me and some others).


A simple example:


Lesser cost rate:
Shooting (very low cost) - shooting with no AP's left would give a hefty penalty to accuracy and recoil control
Reload (low cost) - reloading with no AP's left would triple the time it takes to reload and increase the chances for reload failure

Moderate cost rate:
Using quick keys (cost rate depending on what's being done, changing a weapon (moderate cost), using stims (higher moderate cost), changing ammunition (high moderate cost due to including reloading)) - with no AP's, quick keys won't work, no stimspamming or changing weapons, tough luck.

High cost:
Inventory access - with no AP's, inventory access is denied, run for cover and wait for the AP's to refill.
Using items inside inventory - if AP's run out during doing something in the inventory, you can still browse and assign quick keys, but after that only action allowed is to exit inventory.

Additionally, no AP's left would increase running speed for... say.... oh well, for examples sake, 20% to provide chances to get to cover while AP's recharge.

And AP's would recharge much slower while moving and at normal rate while being still.

All that only during combat (and during shooting/whacking thin air when not in combat for the lesser cost actions).

Consider AP's in the lesser cost section as representing exhaustion.
And in the moderate and high cost sections as representing mental strength, situtional loss of focus, a panic of sorts leading to indesicion and inability to operate properly.

NPC's would also have their own AP's which would dictate their performance (a bit differently than the PC, since NPC's don't use quick keys or the sort).

In vats you would now have an option to choose a firing mode. Rapid fire - a hastily aimed rapid shooting towards the target; or aimed shots, which would be the opposite of rapid fire.

Rapid fire would lower the accuracy a bit and you could only target a foe as a whole; but it would spend less actionpoints, while aimed shots would cost more and calculate the accuracy without minuses, and you would be able to target specific body parts. The bonuses and hits of chosen stance would be similiar to those in realtime firing.

Being prone in vats would force you to choose a firing sector (so that the player doesn't spin like a dreidel in all directions while being the most accurate he can). Prone position would also be the most expensive stance to fire from, while standing would be the cheapest, and being crouched in the middle. The player would be able to change his preferred stance in VATS, but at a cost.

Lockpicking:

Success is determined by skill so that you can try to pick any lock from very easy to very hard; and NO minigame involved. It would work somewhat like repairing; lock level - skill (if the skill is under the lock level) = percentual number that is taken from the skill. If the skill surpasses lock level, the chances are purely skillbased with maximum chance of success being 95% (this, the max chance, would go for every chance based system). And the percentual chance would be presented when moving the reticle over the locked object: E) Pick lock [Very hard: 13%], for example.

Lockpicking would be animated so that you either see your characters hands doing the job (FP view) or seeing your character from behind (TP view). You would have the ability to turn your head (or the camera) some ways left and right to see if someone is coming - so the game doesn't pause during the picking. But looking away from what you're doing, would have an effect (see below).

Picking locks would take a certain amount of time depending on your skill and level of the lock (aka the chance of success). When attempting, there would be a timebar similiar to what Vampire - The Masquerade: Bloodlines had. Skill would give bonuses to the time it takes to pick a lock in such manner that you don't get bonuses to picking hard locks before your skill surpasses maximum level of normal locks. More over, the bonuses would stop stacking up after your skill surpasses the next level of difficulty (no bonuses to picking normal locks after skill level of 75, for example, depicting that there is no way to open that kind of lock any better - other than with a fluke).

Each lock would have a certain amount of tries before (if you keep failing) the lock jams for a certain amount of time (preferably at least a couple of weeks, so that your attempts at just waiting at the lock for it to unjam would be a tedious job and prevent exploitation of the system). Moreover locks would have a chance for a critical failure that would immediately jam the lock despite if it was you first attempt, and critical success, which could occur at any point during the time it takes to pick the lock -- both of these chances would be very small.

This system would also be fit for hacking.


Difficulty settings:

The difficulty setting would affect the following:

Startingpoints of th skills (this would work so that easy players would be able to max out almost everything and the harder you go, the less can max out and the more you need to rely on specializing). The toggle would work dynamically so that if you start with easy and change it to hard half away through, your skill would take an appropriate hit.
The gaps between levels -- the harder the setting, the more XP you need for a levelup.
Base carry weight (before STR modifier).
Base HP (before END modifier).
Number of encountered enemies
Slight (!) changes in NPC/critter HP and damage modifiers

HC mode (one time toggle on/off, no flipflopping) would affect the following:

Number of enemies encountered
Severity of negative effects (stat/skill losses and their effects, crippled limbs, diseases, poison effects, etc)
Add a Nutrition gauge (thirst and hunger combined) -- could do without this though.
Damaging effect of radiation.
Add weight for absolutely everything (meds, ammo, random clutter like pencils, everything).
Slower base speed for stimpakking (before skill modifiers).
Harsher addiction and withdrawal effects.
I'll come up more when I have time...

TL;DR?
Make the game lean less towards the TES style of gameplay - find a better middleground in between - to create a greater diversity between the two franchises.

The END...


Thoughts on an improved (imo) skillsystem (This will contradict with some of the ideas in the longer suggestion above as I haven't had time to merge them properly, but that doesn't matter as I endorse both systems.) - now with an incomplete (har har) SPECIAL outline:
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Ok, so going by the current gameplaystyle where dicerolls no longer apply (which is a shame)... redesign the characterprogression system to better suit it (to be more responsive and give more immediate feedback to the player as s/he progresses).

At character developement every SPECIAL defaults as 5 as it is now, but there are no bonuses to add, just a possibility to rearrange the points. Increasing SPECIAL during the game, would be a special occurance like finding an implant and then someone who can install it. Traits increasing stats would offer an equal drawback in some other stat (or a general drawback). There'd be an individual perk for every stat offering a one time bonus of plus one -- as it was in the original Fallouts. And rare cases where an equippable item gives a bonus for during the time it is equipped (like how PA gives a bonus to strength). Nothing more. The point is to make the character one builds to hold throughout most of the game. And to help that there'd be hard SPECIAL requirements for certain items and activities.

Perks would be more like additional abilities that the skills do not govern straightforward (like pistolwhipping, enhancing stimpaks, increasing inventory space and/or such) but still offer the requirements for. They'd also have tiers (up to 3) to enhance said abilities when appropriate.

Skills would now have a 1-10 and some others 1-5 point scale. With each point cumulatively increasing the price of buying it. Each of these points would also hold more to it than mere nominal increases with little to no visible effect (like how it is now with the 1-100 scale). The skills would work more like thresholds opening new related abilities than random numerical values. At characterbuilding phase each skill would default to 0, but the player would have 3 free points to put in which ever skills s/he wishes.

A couple of "along the lines of" -examples of the skills and their effects:
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Guns:
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Cost : The first two - 5sp, 3rd and 4th - 10sp, 5ft and 6th - 15sp, 7th and 8th - 20, 9th and 10th - 25sp. This would equal a skillcap of 150 with the current method.
Effec t: 0 p oints - You are so terrible with guns you suffer 50% damageloss and 75% of accuracy loss with any conventional firearm, plus your unholstering, holstering and reloading take much more time. Points 2, 4, 6, 8 and 10 would open "proper" usage of guns in their respective tiers of 1-5. Having lacking skill of one tier would result in 50% penalty to accuracy and 25% penalty to damage, lacking 2 or more tiers would offer similiar penalties of 75% and 50% plus decresed reloadspeed and increased probability of jamming during reload and firing regardless of weapon condition.
Points 1, 3, 5, 7 and 9 would offer a 25% bonus to accuracy for the previous tier of weapons (except for 1, which would offer it to the next tier and 10 which would offer an accuracy bonus to all tiers), and similiarly with damage but with an increase of 15%.
This would make increasing the skill a paramount act, if one wishes to master it (unlike with the current system where a skill 50 - for example - is quite adequate to handle all given situations the game offers).

Energy weapons:
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Cost: 5, 5, 10, 10, 15, 15, 20, 20, 25, 25
Effect: Similiar to guns otherwise, but in place of damage increases/decreases would be heating/cooldown effects which would be harsh enough to greatly limit firing large amounts of highly powerful energy ammunition. In effect, energy weapons would be much more powerful than guns, but also much more limited in rate of fire and most of them would also, due to their light effects, hinder stealth.

Melee:
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Cost : 5, 5, 10, 10, 15, 15, 20, 20, 25, 25
Effect: Same as guns and ew with tiers, but in place of accuracy increases/decreses would be attackspeed. Lacking a tier would offer a 50% penalty for overall damage and 25% for attackspeed, lacking 2 tiers similiarly 75% and 50%. Points 3, 6 and 9 would also offer a "special move" which would be slower than normal attack, but more powerful.

Explosives:
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Cost : 5, 10, 15, 20, 25
Effect : With explosive based weapons, refer to the guns section. 0 points, you can throw grenades and dynamite very inaccurately, that's it; 1 point - opens up the ability to create and tinker with satchelcharges and firebombs and removes penalties from grenades and regular dynamite; 2 points - landmines and their modified and custom variants enter the picture; 3 points - creation and operating with C4, semtex, and other plastic explosives and remote detonatables; 4 points - Energybased explosives (electricity, EMP, plasma, etc) explosives; 5 points - Mix and match your own cocktails with all available ingredients.

Sneak:
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Cost : 5, 10, 15, 20, 25
Effect : With 0 points you do not sneak, you're so clumsy that going crouched wouldn't make any difference. Each point decreases the chance of detection according to circumstances (LOS distance, lighting, sound) by 15%. Also, point 1 - ability to use light armor without penalties, point 3 - ability to use medium armor with decreased penalties, point 5 - ability to use heavy armor with decreased penalties.

Speech:
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Cost : 5, 10, 15, 20, 25
Effec t : Wit h 0 points, regular default dialog (plus other skill/perk related options); with points 1-5, thesholds for related speech-check lines.

Lockpick:
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Cost : 5, 10, 15, 20, 25
Effec t: Wit h 0 points you do not pick locks, you simply have no idea how to. Each point opens up ability to open locks at respective levels. The skill also modifies the amount of time an attempt takes. Also, if a minigame is involved, which I wouldn't put there, each tier increases the durability of the lockpick when attempting current or previous tiers.

Barter:
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Cost: 5, 10, 15, 20, 25
Effect: 0 points - 20% selling value, 200% buying value; 1 point - 40% selling value, 175% buying value; 2 points - 60% selling value, 150% buying value; 3 points - 80% selling value, 125% buying value; 4 points - 100% selling value, 100% buying value; 5 points - 120% selling value, 75% buying value.

Science:
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Cost: 5, 10, 15, 20, 25
Effect: Hacking abilities similiar to lockpicking. Also handling the modding requirements for energy weapons. Thresholds for various skilluses outside of inventoryitems.

Repair:
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Cost: 5, 10, 15, 20, 25
Effect: 0 points - you do not repair anything by yourself, Point 1 - Repair light armor to top condition, medium armor to 50% CND, and heavy armor to 25%, Point 3 - Repair medium armor to top condition, medium armor to 75% and heavy armor to 50%, Point 5 - Repair all armors to top condition. Handles various crafting requirements and modding reqs for Guns category of weapons. Thresholds for various skilluses outside of inventoryitems.

Medical:
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Cost: 5, 10, 15, 20, 25
Effect: 0 points - you can use stimpaks but they only heal 50% of their potential, and after 5 in a row, you suffer double the overdoespenalty. Point 1 - Ability to heal 30 HP manually when no hostiles are around, and with a cooldown time for use. Intoxication meter allows for 5 stimpaks in a row without overdosing. Point 2 - Manual healing cooldown time decreased for 25%. 7 stimpaks without penalties. Point 3 - Can use 1 superstim without a penalty. 30% chance of healing a crippled limb. Point 4 - 10 stims or 2 superstims without penalty. Cooldown time decreased additional 25%. 50% chance of healing a crippled limb. Point 5 - 75% chance at healing a crippled limb. 5 superstims or 15 stims without penalty.

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SPECIAL (outline, and not including governed skills and related bonuses):
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S - Carryweight, melee/HtH damage and attackspeed modifiers, lifting and moving heavy objects, weapon STR requirement modifiers, (+ other situational misc tasks)
P - Accuracy, vision distance, identifying consumables and their effects (in conjuction with survival skill), detecting traps, (+ other situational misc tasks)
E - Base HP, HP/level, poison-, radiation-, damage (other) resistances, sprint time, (+ other situational misc tasks)
C - Initial reaction modifiers, companion nerve, soothe (a chance of rendering humanoid enemies nonhostile for a moment -- situational) (+ other situational misc tasks)
I - Skillpoints/level, identifying objects not in the range of perception, (+ other situational misc tasks)
A - Movespeed, actionpoints, weapon handling speed, jump height and distance, (+ other situational misc tasks)
L - Luck is blind :wink:


A story/faction outline (I know it's futile to suggest anything regarding the story, but I got drunk'n bored):
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Faction (just an outline, inconsistencies may occur):

The Greenhouse

Location:
At the region around Greenville Mississippi, including part of the river.

Structure:
A Vault City esque large fenced settlement. An underground vault (what ever unused number) from where the inhabitants emerged; a large facility consisting of The Greenhous Genetics laboratories, The Greenhouse Institute and The Greenhouse Testfacility; normal settlement area divided into "the slum" with lower grade infrastructure, "the central area" with higher grade infrastructure, and "the Institute area" with the science facilities and top tier inhabitants.

Politics:
- Non-expansive in a military way, but spreads influence through other means (very high medical knowhow, clean genetically enhanced food and water etc.) some of which may not be too ethical (like secretly creating circumstances which need their expertise to be solved).
- Strict policies about hygiene and diseasecontrol -- the Slum area basically being a quarantine zone for outsiders wanting to move in (though, despite being an inhospitable host, still offering some benefits over living outside as well as the ultimate benefit of the possibility of getting to live in the central area).
- Military force concentrated on defending the city and surrounding areas, not too capable of attacking anyone.

History:
The Greenhouse was originated in the 60's by a Polish immigrant, a young medical student named Victor Zielinsky, who, with his wife Katja, left the ruins and rebuilding of Krakow in late 40's to seek for a better life in America. He continued his medical studies in New Orleans and funded his living and studies by working parttime at a local florist and some local farms. From these occupations he contacted the interest in plant and animal life, and eventually moved away from medical studies to genetics.

In 1965, due to not being satisfied with the life in a big city, he moved to Greenville Mississippi with his wife and 6-year-old son and started a greenhouse project with a goal to enhance the livestock and crops to produce more and more nutrientwealthy products, and to "create" decorative plants by mixing various species'. The start was a rockyone and he still had to have another occupation as a local doctor and a vet. But as years passed, the greenhouse project started to bear fruit. In 1976 he made a significant breakthrough in the area of animal genetics and was able to expand. In following years the Greenhouse Project turned into a fullblown sciencefacility called The Greenhouse Genetics. Victors son, Adam Zielinsky, had taken an interest in his fathers study already at a young age, and eventually took over the project in early 1980's when Victor died of lung cancer.

Adam, being passionate about his work, changed his last name to Green to connect better with the work he was doing, and to sound more "American". He continued evolving the project, and expanded further by establishing The Greenhouse Institute at the side of The Greenhouse Genetics facility. The Institute worked as a university of genetics and schooled people to work at the Genetics facility.

Adams passion to his work was such a powerful kind that it drove him to force the same passion to his daughter, Sylvia. Due to the strong belief in family ties and inheritance, he effectively brainwashed her to continue his legacy at the helm of the project. This line of action was then rooted to the Zielinsky/Green family as Sylvia passed it on to her child, and the chain went on from there.

Eventually the Greenhouse grew to be a national interest. The government had high interest in it and what it was doing, and at later point Vault Tec built a vault right next to the facility as part of the Project Safehouse. Pacts were made in secret and Reginald Green, the head of The Greenhouse Genetics at that point, was set as the overseer of the vault, which, like the other vaults, was sealed at 2077.

The overseers orders consisted of continuing the Greenhouse work, and doing medical experiments with the inhabitants in research of enhancing the human body. An accident was staged with the air- and waterfiltration systems and it was said that due to this, a form of plague had gotten in the vault. There was no permanent cure for this so the medical team started giving vaccines to people on regular basis. Most had a placebo, but some were intentionally contacted with various gene experiments. These experiments all led to deformation and horrible sickness, which of course was not the intent, but the eggs had to be broken for the omelet. This went on for years and the coverup held.

The vault doors finally opened at 2251 and the people emerged. With the aid of the vaults GECK, they formed a settlement around the vault entrance and the Greenhouse facility which they started repairing in working condition, as per ordered in the overseers instructions. It didn't take much time due to no direct hits of the warheads. The vault generators and the facilities own underground generators produced enough power to keep the settlement running and allowing it to expand a bit.

The young overseer, Victor Green (named after his ancestor), was appointed mayor and head geneologist. He restarted the Project Greenhouse which was to make the surrounding wasteland to flourish again, to produce wealth and health as it used to.

The neighboring settlements in the area took interest in The Greenhouse and commercial routes were established. Some people wanted to move in behind the protective walls and prosper with the advanced medical and agricultural prospects the Greenhouse offered, but due to Victors demands on high end diseasecontrol, they were packed in a fenced slumareas which eventually grew to form a full district. The Slum district occupants were regularly tested with various chemicals to assure they posed no significant threat of contaminating the central populace. The procedure was slow due to only few officials taking part in it which led only a handfull of people being tested at a time and for many times during a lengthy period of time. The district was full of people waiting to get tested, so new people were only let in the slum when others left or were let in the central district. The choosing of people to be tested was seemingly random and this led to some people living their whole lives in the slum waiting be tested.

It was not long after the facility got restarted when the first ghouls were met. At first they were shunned and driven away due to their appearance, but when it was learned that they had an abnormally long life, some were let inside, allowed to get past the line. And they were studied. Victor got immensely curious about their genetical structure and how it allowed them to live so long. With his most trusted scientists, he immediately started a behind the curtains project to create a vaccine which would give normal human the benefits of long and diseasefree life without the side-effects of rotting skin.

This was at first done in a civil manner, but when Victor learned he had cancer, he hasted the research. Soon the it consisted of cruel and inhuman practices. The testsubject were predisposed to enjailmet and torture, they were injected with substances that caused various diseases and deformations, they were cut to pieces to study their bodies' reactions to the chemicals. Victor justified all this with the, as he was sure of them, eventually succesful results and necessary evil in the betterment of human physiology which would, as he believed, eventually lead to the end of the wasteland and rapidly bring societies together again forming a better world.

He was was aware of how this would look in public, so extreme discretion was taken and all research was kept under a blanket. He also knew harvesting test subjects from the populace of his own city would eventually lead to lowering in popularity and desertion. So he, with his high security officials, staged diseases they knew how to cure in the other nearby settlements and then offered them medical assistance. They cured most for the show and kept others with the excuse of them being in such a bad shape they had to be quarantined, cremated or got disposed of by other means.

The growing efforts, however, spent more subjects than they could gather. Additional measures were taken and they started abducting people. They left clues in the wildersness which led to an assumption that the abductees were either killed and eaten by wildlife or cannibal savages, or captured by slavers. All this eventually rose suspicion among the other settlements, and a group of people started their private investigations to prove that the Greenhouse was in some way responsible for the ever growing number of missing people.

And this is the state the region is in right now in the year 2283, when a hasty stagíng of a form of smallpox got out of hand and spread throughout the region.


Interactions with the player (again, just outlining things):
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The game begins with the protagonist (The Drifter) being held by a band of highwaymen. S/he is being stripped from his/her belongings and given a some water, and then sent out walking towards west along the burning wasteland (a slight nod to The good, the bad and the ugly). After few days of walking he passes out. A hunting party finds him and carries him/her to a nearby settlement where s/he is nursed. When The Drifter awakes, it occurs that there is some sort of plague in the settlement. Quarantine tents have been risen and the healthy do what they can for the ever growing number of the sick.
- The settlement provides some voluntary small local quests to provide a tutorial.
- Due to the towns own populace being preoccupied with providing for the sick, the drifter is given a task of traveling to a nearby larger settlement to find out why caravans no longer visit the settlement, and if possible to reopen the routes (with the info that the town can afford to pay well). The drifter is given some basic supply for traveling and self defence. The quest is trusted to the drifter in belief of his/her gratitude of saving his/her life. A reward is also offered and a notion is given that if the caravans do not arrive in time with supplies, the town will die out as they are running out of resources.
- The player can ignore this quest, in which case the town will die out (which has consequences later in the game).
- The quest leads the drifter to the ruins of Greenville, which has a major settlement established there. And from here the story starts to expand to all directions.


Endings(again just simple scetching here):
Spoiler

- The player can side with The Greenhouse, in which case the curel human testing will go on and and on for years to come and grow causing great pains and sorrow, but region in general also starts to prosper due to some scientific breakthroughs and the continuing medical assistance from The Greenhouse doctors. The wasteland starts to get green and fertile again for the region. --in a nutshell--


- The player can side with a coalition of the other settlements and bring to light what The Greenhouse is doing, which leads to the invasion and (accidental) burning of The Greenhouse, killing all the head officials and driving the rest of the populace back into the vault, burning the bodies in front of the door, and finally sealing it shut by collapsing the ground over the entrance with explosives. The lives of the people will go on relatively well, but without any of the Greenhouse advancements in technology and medicine. The research at the Greenhouse will never occur and all the benefits it would've offered to the soil and to the people are forever gone. --in a nutshell--

- A third ending which I haven't made up yet :laugh:


Things I'd appreciate if omitted or otherwise excluded (read: not implemented to begin with):

- Sandbox map -- the game can still be an open world (like how the first games) and support random exploration with large enough "nodes".
- Main focus on exploration -- this shouldn't be the selling point of the game, it's fine for TES, but Fallout should be set apart from that series in all ways possible.
- Too heavy focus on combat more than other styles of gameplay -- there should be more balance on how to fare with the gameworld, well made and settlement centric nodes would support this in that there'd be less empty space that needs to be filled with random combat.
- Straightforward FPS run'n gun combat - there's nothing more boring in these games than RPG combat hampered by FPS mechanics (and while this works both ways, I do not care about improving the FPS elements at the cost the RPG side).
- And stop wasting time in handplacing every sandbead in the desert. There's absolutely no need what so ever to not use procedurally generated landscapes in a wasteland that is mostly sand, rocks and rubble. Use that time to create as unique and differing focus spots as possible.
- And most importantly... less content from the Big Bag of Cool-on-paper +1 -- think before implementing, does it fit the setting, does it make sense, does it have a real purpose.
- Extraterrestials
- All that The Settlers/Sim(s) stuff like: building a house and playing home, building a city and "defending" it, forming a faction, setting up and managing a shop, farming, playerdriven marriage and romances, and all that useless and distracting fluff which is better suited for other games that use them as a the core point of gameplay.
- No multiplayer of any kind - there is a [censored] ton mp games out there for pepole who want that, there's absolutely no reason what-so-ever to have it in here.
- ...to be continued...
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JERMAINE VIDAURRI
 
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 8:52 am

*plays new vegas*....No.

You skip through all dialogues, huh?
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Adrian Powers
 
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 12:49 pm

You skip through all dialogues, huh?
I went through all of it.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 5:53 pm

Hey I got a idea if you don't wanna get married? Don't get married simple as that it's doesn't mean they should just entirely take it out of the game just because some people won't get married it adds to the roleplaying that people do to give your character to reason to fight

Yeah, I'm just not buying it. They could add something actually worthwhile to the game, which there has been plenty of suggestions on here, instead of adding marriage which really just seems to be a pointless endeavor like it was in Skyrim. Like I said, if it's like Fallout 2, and plays a possible role in the end, I wouldn't mind so much, but if it's simply to add a pointless effect, then I don't think it should be added at all. The memory and work put into adding marriage to Fallout, could be better spent on other ideas that are worthwhile to everyone, not just a select few players who want to get married for no real reason but to say they have an NPC wife/husband.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 12:08 pm

Yeah, I'm just not buying it. They could add something actually worthwhile to the game, which there has been plenty of suggestions on here, instead of adding marriage which really just seems to be a pointless endeavor like it was in Skyrim. Like I said, if it's like Fallout 2, and plays a possible role in the end, I wouldn't mind so much, but if it's simply to add a pointless effect, then I don't think it should be added at all. The memory and work put into adding marriage to Fallout, could be better spent on other ideas that are worthwhile to everyone, not just a select few players who want to get married for no real reason but to say they have an NPC wife/husband.

The marriage in Fallout 2 isn't really a good thin either. The shotgun wedding right? Your wife svcks as a follower, and you get the reputation status "Married" which depicts a sad vault boy. It's just a big joke, but it's fun how you got into that situation - meet an attractive girl, play cards right/wrong and she throws herself ontop of you, you undress and her father walks in. Only thing to do then is to get married, and you can't say no because he threatens you hehe. So you are stuck with a useless follower, which is kind of humourous. I wouldn't mind THAT in Fallout 4, another shotgun wedding that is. And if most dialogue with her is just humorous, maybe she's a bit slow, or she's a nagging woman, and you can have funny dialogues with her where you just want her to shut up or something. So, people who want marriage in get that, but most likely it won't be what they expect with only getting married to a horrible woman so they'll most likley divorce her/kill her and don't marry her again next playthrough hahaha.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 5:59 pm

What would be the point to it though? In Fallout 2, it played a part in the ending, which was somewhat canonized in New Vegas with the Chosen One's child being a big deal in New Reno.


We get forced to wed Miria in Modoc. The kid the Chosen One has his kid with Angela Bishop.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 10:36 am

id like the game to have more of a "the Road" feel to it.
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