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Post » Tue Mar 08, 2011 9:26 am

Is it just me, or is it about time the original Fallout game gets a remastered version?
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Mrs shelly Sugarplum
 
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Post » Tue Mar 08, 2011 5:02 am

I hate remakes. It always seems like a really lazy thing to just remake an old idea instead of coming up with something new.
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Kirsty Wood
 
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Post » Mon Mar 07, 2011 9:40 pm

No. Because there's nothing wrong with it.

A remastered version implys that there was something wrong/lacking/broken with the originals.

Look at the Star Wars trilogy (The original trilogy), how many new versions have we had of those? It should have stopped with the special edition (More the parts that involved cleaning the film itself, reducing transparency and minimizing black line). I refuse to watch the DVD versions because of the tampering that took place.

ie: It's not the same anymore.


And thats what will happen. Snazzy graphics? How about full voice overs? Chuck out the turn based system to make it easier to jump into? Achivement/trophy support? Make it easier since it was on the tough side? Add loads of cool new areas that neither fit nor make sense?


Besides, Bethesda (who hold the rights) have shown little interest in redoing somebody elses work and Interplay (who hold the rights to sell the originals) don't have the funds, the excess staff to devote to such a project and they would need Bethesda's permission anyway,



edit: Not to mention the originals, in their original form or still selling well.
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Post » Mon Mar 07, 2011 11:17 pm

It will never happen, unless fan made.
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Post » Mon Mar 07, 2011 9:05 pm

Its not required. The game works fine, and Metroid: Zero Mission has taught me to never mess with a classic.

When this is polled here though, you usually get 50:50.
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Post » Tue Mar 08, 2011 2:48 am

I would rather see a new Fallout game than a remake at this point.

Although id probably have a go at playing a TC mod for F3 if someone gave it a go.
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Post » Tue Mar 08, 2011 3:35 am

No it's fine just the way it is.
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Post » Tue Mar 08, 2011 11:22 am

Myself, I've pretty much burned-out on the old Fallout games, by this point. I've just played them enough, now, that I really don't have much interest in doing anything more with them. :shrug:

Even if it were all-new updated 3D graphics and such - I'd only "accept" a 100% faithful rendition of the game (ie, no turning it into a real-time game, or mucking about with the ruleset, etc.) And better and prettier graphics wouldn't be enough to get me to pay money for a game I've been through over and over so many times by now.
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Post » Tue Mar 08, 2011 1:08 pm

Myself, I've pretty much burned-out on the old Fallout games, by this point. I've just played them enough, now, that I really don't have much interest in doing anything more with them. :shrug:

Even if it were all-new updated 3D graphics and such - I'd only "accept" a 100% faithful rendition of the game (ie, no turning it into a real-time game, or mucking about with the ruleset, etc.) And better and prettier graphics wouldn't be enough to get me to pay money for a game I've been through over and over so many times by now.


Yea, why mess with the memory of a good thing.
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Post » Tue Mar 08, 2011 4:12 am

If anything: cleaning up a few bugs (Glow glitching and causing a crash on Floor 3) updating the graphics a little, smarter AI, leveling up NPC's and using the inventory system of Fallout 2 so things are easier to manage. Other then those, nothing should be touched.
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Post » Tue Mar 08, 2011 4:53 am

No because there are things that the Originals got away with that can't be done now. The originals are classics. Remakes would mean things get cut out or changed which means the lore will end up even more messed up then it is now. By that I mean alot of debates about what is canon and what's not already happen. A new Fallout one would no doubt have changes to the story.
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Post » Tue Mar 08, 2011 10:27 am

Only if a group of dedicated **modders** were to make it. And if they stuck very true to the original game, keeping all of the same dialogue trees and characters, as well as the travel system. It could be similar to Black Mesa (the modder recreation of the original HL in the new, enhanced source engine). If there were ever to be an official remake that costed money, I wouldn't want it. Not only could their time and resources be spent on new content, but it would just be milking.
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Post » Tue Mar 08, 2011 7:55 am

People should just play the originals, a remake is not going to happen. :shrug:
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Post » Tue Mar 08, 2011 9:17 am

IMO the only "remake" it should get is the upgrade to the state the engine is in FO2. I heard there was someone working on the in the modding community for the old games. I've tried a beta of it but I learned the hard way that you have to have a copy of FO2 folder elsewhere so you can play that too(the process of installing the mod involved putting some FO1 files into the FO2 folder along with some modded files). Since whenever I tried to play FO2 it opened FO1 instead.
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Post » Tue Mar 08, 2011 1:28 am

I don't see why Fallout 1 would need remade. There's not much there you need to remake, and I honestly feel a remake would lose a lot in translation.
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Post » Tue Mar 08, 2011 1:09 pm

A new patch would be pretty awesome. I get annoyed when my party refuses to follow me and I get into a fight.
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Post » Tue Mar 08, 2011 2:38 pm

I'd be happy with a F1 or F2 remake, though unless it was significantly different I wouldn't pay for it. A Fallout 1 (or 2) TC of New Vegas would probably work well, for example. If doing F1, I'd really suggest reworking some of the dialogue and fixing some of the missing quests and such, though (seriously, replay F1 and tell me that the non-talking head dialogue is even mediocre, and I see no reason why a remake should leave an unfinished quest like the 'Find the spy' quest in LA alone and still uncomplete). Just leaving them as-is because 'hey, they're classics!' is one of the stupidest things I've ever heard when you could instead take the time to make them clearly and uncontroversially *better*.
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Post » Tue Mar 08, 2011 1:14 am

Personally, I think that Fallout 4 should be one of Bestheda's & Obsidian's major projects, with two major standalone DLC spinoffs that are remakes of Fallout 1 and Fallout 2. Considering that Bestheda will almost certainly need a brand new engine, milking the most out of it will be very important in order to make money back on it. Hopefully, having Obsidian to continue working with them would allow Obsidian to have input on how the next Bestheda engine is built, leading to more options for both players and developers. Rebuilding the first two games would lend all that much more credence to that.
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Post » Tue Mar 08, 2011 9:56 am

Personally, I think that Fallout 4 should be one of Bestheda's & Obsidian's major projects, with two major standalone DLC spinoffs that are remakes of Fallout 1 and Fallout 2. Considering that Bestheda will almost certainly need a brand new engine, milking the most out of it will be very important in order to make money back on it. Hopefully, having Obsidian to continue working with them would allow Obsidian to have input on how the next Bestheda engine is built, leading to more options for both players and developers. Rebuilding the first two games would lend all that much more credence to that.


You do know how big the original games were, right?

Those are going to be some very big DLCs.


Another thing to consider, 'rebuilding' them is going to take time, money, resources and manpower, so they'll have no choice but to charge a lot for them. And with the originals, in their original form retailing at a very reasonable price.......

Do I go for a neutered (because some content would be lost due to current views on video games) version with snazzy graphics, console friendly interface and controls and pay something like five times what the originals retail at?


Or do I get the originals for less than a tenner? The graphics aren't up to date and there are bugs and glitches, but it still has spirit.

I'd go the second option.
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Post » Tue Mar 08, 2011 2:43 am

By "DLC", I meant a full game that is primarily marketed through digital distributors, and not in terms of size. Considering the "spirit" of Fallout, I feel that lies in the storytelling and atmosphere, and not in game mechanics. (Aside from those that contribute towards that end.) I enjoyed Fallout 3, but it lacked the soul of the previous games, but the fault isn't because of the gameplay, but because Bestheda's talents lie in exploration, rather than writing. Combining the strong points of Obsidian & Bestheda is the best way of achieving great results. That is why I favor a remake of earlier games, provided that is good thought in how they can be well-implemented and improved.


Remakes like "Zero Mission", the Super Mario 2 remake for GBA, Final Fantasy IV, and the Phoenix Wright remake for the DS has done much to enrich my life. While it is true that remakes are generally a play to get people's money, the same can be said for New Vegas, and I don't believe it to be wrong. When it comes down to it, money is a representation of what a person is worth, and by that extension, the worth of their efforts. There is nothing wrong with giving Obsidian, Nintendo, or Squaresoft money if they make good games. Be it original, or an remake.
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Post » Mon Mar 07, 2011 11:53 pm

They wouldn't be able to get the architecture and measurements right and would most likely change it from great isometric turnbased to crappy generic shooter so I'm fine with it not being remade.
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Post » Tue Mar 08, 2011 1:26 pm

While delivering tactical planning is the strength of an isometric viewpoint, delivering awesome visuals isn't. (Aside from Silent Storm's destructible terrain, or X-COM.) The 1st-person and 3D aspect of Fallout 3 is really good for delivering pleasing aesthetics. While the planning aspect may be lost, there is much else to gain in strengthening the gameplay and atmosphere.
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