Why would it be unlikely? I'm pretty sure other countries would have thier own vaults/bunkers, it's not like America is the only first world country in the whole wide world, much as they'd like to think they are..

But yes I agree, it would be interesting to see just how other countries faired during the nuclear apocalypse!



Allthough most cities in england are drab and dull and bland anyway, they dont really need horrific nuclear explosions to make them boring frightening places full of mindless monsters and [censored] idiots.



Outside of the few landmarks of this country, I cant see a Fallout England making it because the country is so [censored] unmemorable..

One central theme to Fallout is the Vault Experiment program which DID not exist outside the United States, a major reason you can't do a Fallout outside the U.S

Listen bro hahahah. There are many dumb idea's. If we tell everyone their excellent, then it's worth less then nothing. Someone has to lay it on the line, and speak the truth. Don't say it's just my opinion, it's Majority.

Besides the U.S. being nuked, think about what U.S. allies would have faced as well...the U.K. would have been targetted because of the obvious bond between the two nations, perhaps 2 or 3 other countries as well, but London would be a major target and suffer the same consequences as D.C...............the big problem with a fallout based game in London would be the atmosphere and/or ambience of a retro futuristic 1950's feel that is so easily recognized as being american.....now if it was based upon 1960 to 65 Mersey, Liverpool, London type of feel, we might have something that everyone can relate to...it could be awesome.

The US has no bond between any nation, by the time of the war. The whole planet is nuked. Every country was at war with every other country close to them.

Yeah you have a point there, fair enough!

But England would have, no doubt, copied the americans as much as possible, and it's entirely likely they would have had their own vaults, and it's highly likely they'd be very very similar in alot of aspects, if not totally identical in every way except name and decor.
I mean, hell, Subway (the sandwich shop) is American, have you not seen what the brits have done to it?! Maybe that's a drastic comparison, Nuclear resistant bunkers/sandwich shop, but it kinda enhances my point.


But part of the fun of Fallout has been the awesome huge landscapes to explore, which are much better in America. I think england would be too too cluttered to give the proper Fallout experience, anyway.

Heh, British Subway isn't that different.
I'm English and a Londoner at that - the problem I see with a Fallout UK is the country is too small to survive a thorough bombing (Scotland might get away with it - at least, the parts far from Glasgow and Edinbugh). Having said that, fighting ghouls on the Northern Line would be a blast (although not that different from a typical rush hour journey to work...)

No, how about fallout: Australia. since we have most of the uranium deposit's here wed likely get invaded.
and this about FO only in america, i read somewhere they were going to china in some planned game. i think it was a ps1 game...

EDIT: nobody ever mention's americas closest ally: australia.
where was the british in vietnam? hell, i bet they dont even talk about how we jumped to help america in vietnam. (in american school's i mean)

but atmosphere-wise - 50s USA was all about "jet cars" and "the kitchen of the future" and diners and jukeboxes and Grease... lol.

whereas 50s UK was all grey suits, demob mentality. We hadn't had rock'n'roll yet, mass unemployment, rationing.. it was a grim place. So the 50's sci-fi kitsch wouldn't be apparent. It would be depressing - you wouldn't be able to tell what was post-nuclear and what was pre-nuclear!

^^Niamh hit the nail on he head right there. It's a sad true fact that if the storyline was to be chronologically correct then yeah.. england was probably pretty dull back then.
My relatives speak of rationing and how you were considered rich to have a TV or more than three dresses. so I'm guessing there wouldnt be much prosprecting going on in Fallout:Uk!





Heh, I've worked in both and I'm saddened by the english one I work in now. Where's the pretzels? The coleslaw?! The milkshakes?! The icecream?!
:o


I have memories of a discussion on the internet about the GTA series, and people kept suggesting their favorite countries. I spose that'd be a bit different as there's no relevance to fit the country into a certain period in time,

Ah well, I hate coleslaw and I'm not keen on pretzels so I wouldn't have noticed the lack thereof. I've never noticed ice cream and shakes in the US branches though - perhaps because I've usually visited the smaller franchises (usually in amusemant parks when I'm over there on one of my rollercoaster trips).

Anyway, back on topic - America's pretty big and there's still plenty of room for more Fallout games. I wouldn't mind seeing a return to California since it's quite a different place than it was the first couple of games. Texas would be good, too. Lots of room and several big cities.

I care less about "where" than I care about "when". To me the immediate aftermath of the war is much more interesting than 200 years later after society is already recovering and moving into a kind of feudal period. The longer you go in time, the more ridiculous it becomes that people still live in a "post apocalyptic" kind of setting. In 200 years we have gone from steam engines to space flight, and these people have even higher levels of technology (AI, directed energy weapons) just laying around. Why is everybody wearing rags? Is there nobody in ten generations that can repair a power loom? Why are there no cars? There's plenty of portable energy supplies, and beat up scrap to work with. I bet you you with all the junk they have laying around, you could build a crude kind of car in less than a week. Why is everything still so radioactive? The most deadly types of radioactive elements deteriorate fairly quickly.

All of these problems go away if you base your game at a time closer to the war. 20 years, not 200. Things should grim and desperate and there should be an emphasis on how people are attempting to survive. Not on power struggles between governments that nobody likes. We have that in real life.

Agree with that. 200 years after, there wouldn't be rubbish everywhere and bodies in bathtubs. Hell, there are sweeping brushes EVERYWHERE, it would be human nature to clean up. I don't buy it at all. If I came out of a nice vault, into an abandoned building, that building would be cleaned out/swept within a week of me moving in. No tin sheets 200 years later, bones in bathtubs, etc. Stupid, really.

(it kind-of made sense in the Capital Wasteland, because that was an almost empty ruin even 200 years later. Not in Vegas though. If the Ultraluxe can be cleaned out and done up, so can everywhere else)

I'm wondering why a lot of these places don't get a lick of paint, actually. And why the hell is the McCarran mess hall filled with rusty cans? No wonder the cook has the health inspector after him! You'd think a military place would at least be clean, if not fully repaired and shiny.

I agree completely. Can we move away from a post-post-apocalyptic setting and back to a post-apocalyptic setting for Fallout 4, please? Jump back in the timeline if need be.

Then why would it be Fallout "4" if they set it prior to Fallout 3?

I'd rather go forward actually.
I want to see the series universe's factions and world evolve.
No point in going back.
Even if they do then soon enough they'll be at where we are again.
Better to just continue forward.

Now a game like Fallout: _______ by a different studio set closer to Fallout 1's timeline is something I do want.
But the main series should continue forward.
Not go backwards in time. (but it should go backwards in mechanics and gameplay. :teehee: )

Fallout 4, then Fallout: Origins, then Fallout 5, then Fallout: New York, then ...

My point is that as you go forward in time, it becomes less "Fallout" and more "Dystopian Politics". The emphasis is shifting from gritty post apocalyptic human survival to technophobic Luddites squabbling over land rights.

The Fallout universe evolves.
It's starting to get more civilized.
See nothing wrong in it.
Fallout is after all about seeing how communities has evolved from the atomic bombs, to see what new cultures, laws, organizations and even nations have been born from it.

^ I get what you mean, FalloutNV certainly alot more politics in it!
But if you go backwards in time to back when mankind was just re-emerging from the vaults, it was awesome and horrific to fight everyone and everything for survival but it got tiresome after a while, you earn all those caps and reputation,,,for what?
A more structured society, whilst a tad boring and tenuously political, means that there is atleast a reason for your struggles. A future to work for and not just the fear/beleif that humankind will once again smash itself to pieces and return to the swamps.

Ofcourse, geting involved in the politics of NV is optional, kinda. It's easy to just become a mindless thug working for caps but not really caring for the concequences of your actions. The game can be as complex or as simple as you desire?

Yeah that's true, WWII skinted Britain and its Empire, I'm pretty sure we only made the last payment of debt to America last year, too. Ha ha ha! Maybe that's why they felt compelled to share British security secrets, like the location of nuclear subs and stuff, with Russia, as they weren't going to be seeing any more payments, and the agreement (as part of the debt) to use our military bases (in what was then anywhere in the Empire) wherever and whenever they wanted (without so much as a how-do-you-do) came to an end when the debt was paid off.

A Fallout London would be cool, for lots of different reasons... not least of which... the rich British characters you could write, with that messed up calm attitude of "things could be worse" when crap hits fans, and that Britishness you don't get unless you've been here. The Fallout sense of humour would be slightly skewed by Britishness, in a good way. Only with good, life-like characters though, not stereotype characters like Tenpenny. I mean, I could do a Fallout of America, imagine it loaded with stereotypes of America I mean - how I think a lot of Americans would imagine a British stereotype Fallout as in this thread - I wouldn't want to see Fallout in America, either. lol

You don't define a culture by its buildings, and the names of its cities. -_- The first computers were made in Britain, they look like they'd fit right into the Fallout setting.

I don't think Bethesda let Obsidian go back, the original date for NV was to be like the 2250's I think; but Bethesda has a "moving forward" policy.

The fallout universe timeline most definitely needs to be tightened up.....maybe within a 50 year window from the initial nuclear nightmare of 2077. Obviously this game requires us to stretch the boundaries of realism and accept the archaic representations of the destruction from that event.....I mean if it were all clean and sparkly it wouldn't evoke the kind of environment we associate with a nuclear war. If the writers had it to do over again, they might tighten it up but then does it really matter?

It takes them this long to release a patch and a DLC bro xD Fallout New York will be released in 2281...JK, the great war ofc.

Fallout: Saudi Arabia