I was just thinking. Bethesda is a big developer, they arent bad and they arent that abd a creating games. And when i just thought about Fallout 3 lacking quests and each DLC being focused on different gameplay option. I thought that PItt had many armors and no exploration why would POint lookout have almost no armors but more quests. And when I got a new idea(just an idea) that Fallout 3 was just a test on how to continue the series.
Well you know, the franchise wasnt published for last ten years and they tried turning old Fallout gameplay type into a new one. But they didnt know how the fans would react to many changes so they published it as a test on how to run the series further. When gave Obsidian for improvements(reputation, DT, etc) to make fallout 4 a really good game. Just a thought.

I really hope Fallout 3 was a test and they're done "testing" now and that they bring their A-game for Fallout 4 in terms of game balance, RPG mechanics and writing.

I really doubt it.

Me too.
Optimism is a trait I do not have.

dang that doctor at my birth, not giving me my trait selection.. :laugh:

Nah you got it wrong, you need to be shot in the head two times and then dug out of a grave before the doctors allow you two traits.

In away maybe it was a test. Why did they get Obsidian to make New Vegas and Why did Bethesda give the ok for all the changes Obsidian made so New Vegas would be like the originals? I am hoping it was because Bethesda wanted to learn how it was done. I know they are busy working on the new Elder scrolls but Beth could have got anyone to make New Vegas yet they picked a company that knows fallout best.

It would svck if FO4 does not have Damage threshold, Reputation System, multiple endings or a hardcoe mode as well as better writing and more quests.

QFT.

Actually that was what i meant. Like for 100% correct.

I hope it was a test and Vegas was to see if people respond better to Bethesda's delivered by Fallout's original creators (with a few additions)...

If that's true then 1) They made a pretty good test 2) Fallout 4 will be incredible!!!

I think it's naive to believe that a game as expensive to produce as FO3 was a 'test'. Also, Bethesda said Obsidian came to them and asked if they could make a new Fallout game.

Also, if Bethesda hadn't persuaded Interplay to sell them the rights, how long do you think you'd have had to wait for another Fallout game?

It might cost much but every fan of old game would have bought. So creating a game which eveyone would have bought and test it how to continue the series is a normal thing.

IIRC Bethesda actually asked Obsidian.

And Interplay put the Fallout franchise out on the market cause of their financial issues.
Lots of other companies wanted to buy the franchise including Trojka and Bioware.
So Bethesda did not persuade them into selling them the rights.
So a Fallout game was bound to happen in 2007/2008/2009 or 2010 even if Bethesda hadn't bought it.

Bioware?!?!?! :blink: :blink:
A link please?

LOL that freaked me out to :unsure:
Glad they didn't get it!

Long time ago.
Not going to search for it.
Want link?
Search for it yourself or wait until a user on the forum who remembers this posts it here.
I'm off to buy cigarettes so I ain't got time to search around google.

I just cant imagine them making a fallout game.

Eh, must say that I am kinda relieved to hear Bios didn't get the rights.

I mean, their stuff is brilliant, has a good story, dialogues and immersion(still playing BG2 and ME1 from time to time), but I am not sure how would they handle Fallout. :unsure2:

No, it wasn't a test. Its a real game. It's immensely popular because its fun to play. This means its a success as a video game.

It remains one of the top rated and top downloaded games on the xbox marketplace, the community has spoken; they like it.

Only a relatively small number of begrudged gamers hate FO3, and the only outlet for them are this and the xbox.com forum.

You will see Gabriel, Boradam and Styles ALL posting in every thread that even slightly mentions FO3; go ahead, research their post history or just check here daily. You'll find them posting negative comments about FO3; that is because they are bitter and biased, not to mention deluded because of their ridiculous expectations for a newer generation game to play like an old one.

In short, that is all, end of story.

What the [censored]! If anything, you are biased toward Bethesda.

We just want Bethesda to make Fallout like the originals, is that too much to ask?!?! Many people did not like FO3, does that make us bias and bitter?? How would you feel if Activision bought the Elder Scrolls and turned it into a Shooter?

Hard to not be nice towards FO3 considering how it turned out.
But biased?
Not really.
Fallout 3 was a great game in it's own way.
It's atmosphere with the ruined capitol city of the united states was just plain [censored] awesome!
Super mutants were iconic enemies and Bethesda had new turn on it: What would happen if the unintelligent super mutants took control instead of the intelligent ones?
It's dungeon crawling was fun in it's own way.
It's cities were all great in theory.
And while quests always tried to be "epic adventures" I had a lot of fun doing them.

I love Fallout 3.

But I also hate Fallout 3.
It's atmosphere was ruined when it's suppose to take place 200 years after the bombs crashed.
The super mutants irked me like hell considering that the only FEV was suppose to exist in Mariposa and some dried up in old VATS chambers in West-Tek.
It's dungeon crawling took control over the true RPG aspects and it turned into a run and gun fest.
The cities in practice on the other hand turned out crap, Tenpenny Tower, a place where rich people live, where they have almost clean clothing and fresh water, but where does all their riches come from? How do they make money? How come they got clean sinks and toilets and fresh water? Every single city in FO3 felt cramped up and underdeveloped.
And the quests were ALL trying to be "epic adventures" which turned the game into a theme park rather than being realistic with things like personal conflicts, economics, cultural differences, wasteland justice et cetera et cetera.

Biased?
I think not.
I can [censored] and whine about the old games too, but there is little to complain about.
I can [censored] and whine about Vegas, and I do.
So I'm not biased.

And here's an owl! :spotted owl:

You should really pay a visit to NMA.

Fair enough, but I thought I'd read an interview with Bethesda where they said Obsidian approached them, and they said 'okay, let's see your ideas'.
Also, that Bethesda said they'd asked Interplay if they weren't going to do another Fallout game, could they buy the rights, and they said no, but Bethesda kept asking them and eventually they agreed.
:rolleyes:

Hmm, we need some confirmation.
*looks at google*
We need someone else to get this confirmation for us.