Truthfully I've only played Oblivion and I can clearly see the similarities between that game and Fallout 3. What Bethesda essentially did was take some of the plot devices and interesting factions from the previous Fallout's and combined them with Oblivion's mechanics and put a post(barely)-apocalyptic coat of paint over all of it. Fallout 3 is, essentially, a hiking simulator, its primary focus being in the exploration. This is what Oblivion was about, but it was never what Fallout was about.

Hmm, this is a tough one. I'm going with Wasteland 2. There's just something about it that has me interested...

Just pledged my 15$. Wasteland 2 sounds like its going to be a blast, and I also want to support this type of game development. We need to stick it to publishers like EA and Ubisoft and show them that they aren't the sole power in these markets.

Someone needs to steal Starflight from them.

Grrr...I really wish I had the cash to get the 50$ version, but I'm pretty strapped for cash right now.

Freaking cost of gas is insane.

I do too. I wanted the shirt one for $150... I could only go in for the lowest amount.

I might try convincing my brother to lend me the cash, and in return he can have the digital download copy.

They take donation money by letter?

I don't like making money transactions online.

Well I could just look up their company address and such.

It's done via Amazon payments, so that's pretty secure.

Alternatively, there's a Paypal option as well.

You could go to the Kickstarter page and hit the "send message" link. It goes to someone at inXile and they'll be able to help you out.

I'll try that.

I'm surprised to see the Fallout 4 has only 10 vote leading. Perhaps there's still is few of you who like things with some depth.

Also, for the people who do not think this is real:
http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1365926-wasteland-2-kickstarter-now-featuring-chris-avellone/page__st__30

Cooool, anyhow cant wait for fallout 4 wohoooo

My theory is that Fallout 3 is the way it is because Bethesda just doesn't know how to make any other kind of game. Thus "Oblivion with guns" And why i keep referring to Fallout 4 as "Skyrim with Guns", until i'm proven wrong

Pretty much, they can only make a big world, even that is starting to crumble. Like how dungeons in skyrim were linear, always had a convenient cave in to funnel me in one direction.

They cant do moral choices to save their life, even when you have one you can agree with. They completely [censored] it up (broken steel).
I cant see Bethesda doing well, other devs are starting to make big worlds, not as much interaction as betehsda, but eventually they will be surpassed. (depending on your oppinion, they may have been overtaken already).

I think their big worlds are starting to lack a bit as well. They are damm lucky they had an awesome lore department for Daggerfall and Morrowind because that is the only thing TES has going for it now.

Only played Oblivion and Skyrim, didnt really care about the lore.
Allthough I have learned since then they retconned some stuff in Oblivion. Like how Cyrodil was supposed to be a jungle iirc.

Double post

I'll put it this way- Bethesda is a lot more, and deeply, Ultima inspired than Cain, Taylor, and Anderson were.

Ultimately yes that's a large paradigme for BGS but as Oblivion's the first work you played then the close coming of FO3 your missing out on the fact that it's the lifeblood BGS has run on since 94'. The alienation of Oblivion largely was the weak writing due both to BGS not being the best writers and full voiced game for the first time in the main series, and the standard fantasy vision for Cyrodiil.

Or it could be the exploration, but again from Arena it's always been about exploration in a 3D world from a 1st person perspective, albeit not focused on you til Daggerfall.

What I'm trying to reach at is while FO1 is from first glance a whole different beast, not quite so at a closer look. Not to suggest FO3 is anything satisfactory, -As a Fallout fan.-

I don't want to undermine them or praise them to the heavens. Especially with the long time fans like me crowd I like to instill that Bethesda has key strengths and key weaknesses like all studios.

Now obviously even if something like had Van Buren happened I'd still be bitter and claim FO1 as tops. I'm a hard really devoted fan as well. I partly hate Avellone and Co. At release I threw my copy of 2 away.

FO3 is a distinct shift and 4 will continue that. I'm not going to pin BGS games as crap though. To each their own.

As to the development process, I lay part of the blame on Mr. Dark Brotherhood Emil. Half the things we don't like is due to his need for badassery.

For all of my talk of Bethesda's faults and mistakes, I actually do have a hope that they could(stress that 'could') make a decent Fallout game if they take more checks from Obsidian and New Vegas. Overall I would still much prefer to see Obsidian develop the next Fallout with no interference, but if Bethesda is doing then I would like to see them something new. I am actually interested in what new creative ideas Bethesda can come up in the Fallout universe...as long as they stay on the east coast. There is no need for them to venture into the lore-heavy region of the west.

Fallout 4. I love 1st person exploration games, preferably open world.

Fallout 4.

What I meant to say was that I enjoyed FO3 more then FONV. mostly because I don't like the idea of not being able to continue the game after I beat it.

I never understood the point of continuing an RPG after I have completed it. Whatever I feel I should do, I do before the last quest because when I've finished the main quest, I have finished that character.

I have played Wasteland and it was awesome and I will support Brian Fargo for that by pledging $55 or more for "THE INTERNATIONAL FRIENDLY ALL DIGITAL PACKAGE! You get one digital copy of the game DRM free for PC, Mac or Linux, digital soundtrack, digital concept art book, episodic novella part 1 and 2, and premiere access to an early playable beta on steam. This comes with no physical goods to help with VAT, duty and shipping costs for our international fans!".