I'm a massive fan of Fallout, or rather Bethesda's incarnation of it (that being Fallout 3 and its spin-off, New Vegas), but during my few attempts I've never been able to enjoy Interplay's Fallout. Could someone tell me what the fuss with the game was, or to this day still is for that matter? I mean, from a technological standpoint, it was hardly advanced for the time - was it? It also just seemed really confusing.

What about it seemed confusing?

It is a game inteded to emulate a tabletop experience, it has well realized story and setting, choice and consequence, it is a cRPG in the most profound way and is loved for what it does and how it does it.

Fallout and Fallout 2 still matter in the Fallout Universe so if you want to understand the Universe better the best way to do that is to play the orginal Fallouts. Also New Vegas isn't a spin off it is a full fledged Fallout game that continues alot of things from the first two Fallouts.

I would also suggest Fallout Tactics.

I know its not a spin-off, but it isn't a numbered title and it's not part of the main series. It's almost a gigantic expansion to Fallout 3...

Think of it as the "Vice City" of the Fallout series. That's how the developers described it.

I guess it's simply that I'm a 21st century gamer, accustomed to 21st century games. I struggle with many of the supposed old "classics", or PC ones at least...

Syndicate

Duke Nukem

Other Old RPGs

That may be, and I guess it's understandable in this day and age. But, I would put forward that you should probably broaden your horizons a bit. You are missing out on some really good titles; done with style that is soon to be forgotten because nobody dares to make games like them anymore (because they need to sell to everyone possible, and numbering in millions).

How big a chance did you give it? As in, how long did you try to play it?

I stopped playing, personally, when i got mauled by Radscorpions after talking to some Khan members.

Ha, they can be pretty tough when you don't have the right equip and an appropriate level. Didn't you try running?

Umm, is there a button for that? Is it like Paper Mario where there is a run button? Must have missed it.

Hold shift whilst moving and you can run (there's also an option for perma-run in the settings), in combat just try to leave that particular area by going to the edge of it and standing on the highlighted area (usually running away isn't that hard when it's a Radscorpion or some other enemy without ranged attacks).

Well, in all honesty, the only reason I tried Fallout was because it was Fallout - a game world which I adore. However, having said that, I simply hate turn-based RPG games. Final Fantasy was the same for me. The only turn-based game which I ever enjoyed was XCOM, but that is not a turn-based RPG.

Thanks for the tip, if I do decide to continue. The furthest I've ever gotten is exploring Vault 15.

You really had to be there when the game came out originally. Today, Fallout 1 and 2 are only marginally interesting games, as is the case of most classic that are starting to get a little old. Doom was a game I loved when I first tried it, and now I can varely torture myself through it. No jumping, repetitive combat, it's dreadful. Some like it though. But once I've gotten a taste of less pixellation, I tend to not go back to those games unless the style is cartoonish (and thus the pixellation doesn't blur out anything, it rather accentuates it instead.

They're still great to play, as long as you don't go in expecting flashy graphics and stuff. I played them both just this year and thought they were fantastic. You sort of have to adjust the way you think, because early on combat is something to run away from and there's very little in the way of helpful hints with quests. It's still easy to see just how influential they were.

A $60 expansion made by a different developer with a lot more content than the "main game". Seems legit.

New Vegas is a spin-off technically, if you want to get specific lol. It is not part of the "main" series thus rendering it the "spin-off" title, which doesn't make it worth any less. But it is also a special spin-off in that the entire game is considered canon.

I dont know about that, I played them this summer and I though they were pretty fun.

Though many may disagree with me most of it is hot air and nostalgia. It does what it sets out to do perfectly and in the right mindset can be a very good game, but only to a point.

First off it's almost necessary to at least somewhat like table top games in order to truly understand and appreciate it. To me when compared with it's time and relative point in

gaming history it is for all accounts a good game. But like many games of the past it simply does not hold up to the test of time, unlike say the original Age of Empires which came

out at the same time and still holds up whenever you take the time to dig it out of the closet.

You would be right in citing your 21st Century gamer experience as to one of the reasons why you might have a hard time liking it but like any other game it also depends on your

personal preferences to the genre as well as what games you were started on.

Wild Wasteland might disagree with you there

Optionally toggled special encounters make an entire game non-canonical? Okay then.

Older titles shipped with manuals; recent titles rarely seem to. (And not everyone knows to look for the PDF file.)
The Fallout manual was really neat (not too many games have really neat manuals). The manual will explain it all.

http://www.nma-fallout.com/forum/dload.php?action=file&file_id=33
http://www.nma-fallout.com/forum/dload.php?action=file&file_id=65

With Duke Nukem ~and any 'Build Engine' based games, the the mouse & WASD were not yet the standard, and you just need to get used to the keys (and no mouse).

Bogus on both; Doom is one of the best; though it's not the best IMO... the best shooters used the BUILD engine ~still; I've played recent shooters, but I've not found better shooters than the original Blood and Shadow Warrior. (And no, I didn't play them when they first came out, I discovered them years later... just like I discovered 'Morrowind' and 'Stone Prophet' after Oblivion ~but like the older titles better).

Seeing as how FNV continues off of the west coast storyline more-so than Fallout 3 does I'd say that it is more of a main series title than Fallout 3 is. Just cause Fallout 3 has its little number at the end doesn't make it more of a main game than NV is. So no, it isn't "technically" a spin-off.

Eh, it's not for everyone.

Even for it's time, Fallout 1 was pretty niche, all things considered. Not everyone's going to like it, and there are some things that, were it done today, would likely have been improved upon a tad.

Some games I can go back and play over and over again. The 2005 remake of Sid Meier's PIrates! has been faithfully installed on my computer since it came out (and I've probably got the - now surely demagnetized - boot disk of the original game lying around somewhere,) as I'll keep coming back to that. Deus Ex I just can't hack, though.

When Fallout 1 came out, that was like a game custom-built to my tastes. When Interplay imagined the target audience for that game, they saw my face. So yeah, I'm nostalgic. But I still love playing that game, and revisit it from time to time. Doesn't blind me to that game's shortcomings, but I like a lot of what they did with that game. I still stand by the conclusion that thus far no role-playing game has surpassed the cutscenes at the end of the game, and the manner in which your past actions altered the epilogue.

But yeah. If you don't like the game, you don't like the game. There's a lot of games out there. I'm sure that's not the only one we'd disagree on.

Yes, it is. You stated an opinion? Just because it follows Fallout 1 and 2's story better in your opinion (also mine) doesn't mean anything. So yes just because Fallout 3 has the number it DOES mean that it is part of the main series.. its just a technicality really. You can base your facts on opinions all day but the simple fact is, Fallout NV is technically considered a spin-off http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spin-off_(media). Also im not trying to be a scrooge about this im just stating the fact, playing the devils advocate I guess haha.