Calm down. I guess i need to put in IMO after every sentence because some people dont know when its a opinion apparently. Im pretty sure your now acting like the majority "WE AREN'T ASKING..."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFABEnF7b6I

It would be something like that...How annoying and boring would that get?

I actually own FO 1 and 2. Ive also been playing games since the 80s, so i know all about turn based games. I enjoyed them at the time but much prefer the real time FP view. Games have moved on and wont be moving back to TB any time soon im afraid.

1. No he really is speaking for the majority of us here on the forums who want it. None of us Dinosaurs has said we wanted the TB mode to replace the RT mode.

2. Annoying? Boring? Hell no, that looks [censored] awesome!!! :fallout:

Micro Forté for Fallout Tactics 2 (Mutant Liberation Army!) :shifty:

Obsidian for Fallout 4.

Hardly, since F1 was relased in 1997. We aren't that old ya know.



Oh man, that actually looks [censored] badass! Does anyone have a download link too?

EDIT: nvm, found it! Gonna spread the word that TB ain't dead baby! :disguise:

I never said i was playing FO 1 in the 80s. Games did exist before 1997 you know lol That TB video of fallout 3 looks terrible, if they made a FO like that it would go straight to the gutter.

I think he means hes been gaming since the 80's not that hes been playing fallout. although He could be a Wasteland gamer. then he can say that
I've been playing these new fangled Video Games since the 80's my self

I never did get to play wasteland back in the day.. It flew right under my radar
I do hope Bryan Fargo Finishes up his Current game and Gets to work On Wasteland 2 soon

This.

It doesn't matter who should make it, because most likely Bethesda will be doing it.Hopefully they take some Obsidian team members in to add some better writing and RPG elements to it.

Hm i see so you like watching paint dry? Thats what it is practically.

It's not hip to watch paint dry anymore? :sadvaultboy:

Are you kidding me? New Vegas is Fallout 3 with minor tweaks, obsidian basically ripped of bethesda

Ripped what of Bethesda. Could you please explain which bit of the story was ripped from Fo3?

If Anything, Bethesda ripped off the people now at Obsidian. Getting kicked out of the vault? Fallout 1 did it. Go fetch the Geck? Fallout 2 did it. Go blow up the Enclave? Fallout 2 did it.

And Bethesda bassically ripped of themselves dressing TES like Fallout

Nope it was not hip a couple years ago sorry.

New Vegas has way more then "minor tweaks" over Fallout 3.

New Vegas has far superior writing then Fallout 3 in every way. It has many improvments in game play that were in the Originals but not in Fallout 3 such as Damage Threshold. The only thing Fallout New Vegas has in common with Fallout 3 besides "Fallout" in the title is the game engine.

If you knew anything about the Originals you would know Fallout 3 ripped off Fallout and Fallout 2 for plot. In some cases almost world for world. "I am sorry you will have to leave for the good of the vault." So much of Fallout 3 was ripped off from the Originals. New Vegas rips nothing off from Fallout 3 say for maybe fire ants but that is another debate.

disregard

@Undecafindeed. Like told someone else in this thread stats play a big role until about level 17 or so. The main problem is in what J.E. Sawyer told us about why it seems easy to a lot of us on here.

He basically said he has watched play throughs where people svck.

So to me he reinforced my notion that games today are made for the lowest common denominator. The NPCs stats are no high enough to cope with your guy + a brain when he is leveled. Turn based or not it will still be too easy for most old school gamers like myself.

Take bos level 11 67ew??? maybe 28dt pa That is garbage...

Bos in lore are walking tanks 97ew 35dt 395hp <<< if that was bos paladin you would need to be leveled have the best equipment and a brain, and they would still be very hard. Just like old rpgs.....

Now you understand why I flip out when people cry about cazadors.

Turn based or not the game will be made to be easy enough for everyone.

Obsidian for all things except assets.

This would make the game WAYYYYYY too easy. Seriously. I see so many people go on about how easy FO3 and NV are, and adding anything of this sort would make them so much easier. There'd be absolutely no challange whatsoever. The only way to make it more difficult for the people that use the TB combat would be to make the baddies harder, which would only hurt the people that like to use RT combat.

On to the actual topic of the thread:
It doesn't matter who makes makes it, people are going to complain no matter what. If Bethesda makes it (which is most likely) people will inevitably re-hash the simple and mostly idiotic tired complaints they have about FO3. If Obsidian makes it, there will be complaints from the other side. If a third party makes it everybody will complain unless it lives up their personal expectations of what they (the player) feels the game should be. Before anyone start flaming me about this, I've played all the FO games, since they came out, and love them all. I found flaws in all of them, but I don't blame the sudio that made them for the flaws and saw that those studios are crap. I don't because until I can make a game like any of them, I have no room to complain about anybody elses games like that (whether it be writing, continuity errors, bad game-play elements, etc.).

But it should be optional anyways, for those with nostalgia, TB would be good for us "the dinosaurs who stuck in the past"

Also, that vid is from a earlier version, the latest one was more faster

Actually its the other way around... Turn based combat came as an advancement past the realtime combat of earlier games. I find the RT combat tame :shrug:

**Its also not nostalgia when you still have it installed and still play ~there are no 'rose tinted goggles', many compare the games directly and wish for a modernized engine that retains the series gameplay, while benefiting from the new hardware. :shrug:

I agree on this. It's -going- to be Bethesda, I just hope they decide to put a little more effort into writing in their upcoming games, because it's been completely lacking in their most recent two.

I just watched that video garbriel77dan posted... I don't know if I could take playing fallout 3 like that by the time you finished the game you'd end up being a old man... kind of like this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXS8P0HksQo
(a million cabillion post laters...)

I don't know that mod just seems really out of place if you ask me. Doesn't fit in with the way fallout 3 is designed.

I think it would have been more RPGish if they just scrapped the first person shooting and made it where you're forced to use only VATS for combat. That would have brought more balance and would make more use out of special and skill points. I think if it was more like you get attacked by an enemy VATS pops up you give off your attack enemy does his attack, then VATS pops back up and so on. I think if they did it more like knights of the old republic, special and skill points would be a lot more balanced and it would have a turn base feel. I think I'm turning into a dinosaur...

Off topic:
Would I be considered a dinosaur for being a fallout1/2 fan but also a fan of falllout3/NV? Even though I feel they left out a lot but I like a lot of what they added in. Fallout 3/NV is pretty bad ass in my opinion... So a dinosaur is somebody who is a fan of the originals or is a dinosaur a fan of the originals but hates the modern aspect of fallout3/NV? Could somebody clear this up I haven't been on these forums for like 4 months...

Actual topic:
I still think they should make a joint stock company and make a fallout4 that takes place back in California and continue the lore! How fun would it be to explore places like NCR or the bone yard fallout3 style?

3drealms shoud make fallout 4. :flamethrower: