I hope Bethesda has learned from this that they can't keep releasing the same buggy games over and over again and get away with it, people are tired of it and its finally taking its toll by losing all of the GOTY awards this year.

Please don't let this happen to the Elder Scrolls too, step up Bethesda like CD Project Red did with the Witcher 3, they proved you can have a huge massive open world with good story and writing and do it all without being a buggy game just because it is huge, and please bring the old dialog menu back.

Year of CDPR. They deserve it. Unless some dark horse swoops in FO4 will win some next year.

A simple web search will tell you that fallout 4 has already won at least one GOTY award.


Since awards are ultimately just a piece of marketing fluff designed to sell product and let developers and the press give each other a [censored], I'm not inclined to shed too many tears for the "losers".


As far as the accountants are concerned, Fallout 4 is a win.

I guess Beth will just have to be happy with the hundreds of millions of dollars it made in sales, and the fact that it was their most successful game launch ever.

Bu-hu for them, I'm sure Todd cries himself to sleep every night. Here's an interesting thing to note, GOTY awards don't actually matter too much.

They do, but PCGamer voted MGS V for their goty. There's your dark horse.

It is a blow. These things do matter, and this time it seems that the stiff competition that Fallout 4 has got this year has won out.

I think Fallout 4 gets its 84 score very well, in that its a game that I don't think can 100% be enjoyed by nearly everyone, much like the other Bethesda games scoring in the 80 range like New Vegas and Morrowind. Im sure they will be trying to figure out how best to improve their situation, and get those 90 scores that have been getting from 2006 until now.

2015 was a pretty cool year for gaming though. I'm sure that other people who aren't so attached to Bethesda will be remembering this year as fondly as some other smash years in gaming like 2004 or 2007, and as fondly as I remember any year that has had a Bethesda release.

Fallout 4 is a good game, but its not GOTY material. The Witcher is taking center stage and for good reason. An extremely good game, 16 free pieces of DLC, great communication with the fans. CDProject not only set the bar for video games, but it set the bar for how developers should be.

Well, Fallout 4 is more mediocre than ever

Come on BGS, time to show the uppity newcomers what you're capable of!

Time to either up your game (pun intended ) or move aside. Either way, i win

you hope they learned? just because they didn't get game of the year? ROFL, the game has been very unbug free to me actually, i play on an xbox, its probably there least problematic game i've every played, as it is they are pretty much runner up so second isn't bad, every game can't be the game of the year, the game is selling fine, its being played, just check twitch and youtube for that, i don't think they're worried, they make great game and its not easy for a game to be game of the year as it, let alone a post apocalyptic game, going up againt a well polished fantasy midevil type of game that wasn't gonna be an easy taks no matter what plus the witcher was released a lot earlier so a lot of the bug got worked out and fallout was released vey late in the year so i don't think there's any major issue for them to worry about, huge open world games are always gonna have some glitches and things that need to get patched but i haven't had any gamebreaking issue with fallout 4 so far and i've been playing it since the day it came out, itsl ike all their games you need to make extra saves in order to keep problems down to a minimum.

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Fallout 4 is the less buggy Bethesda game ever, but yep... they need to heavily improve the story inside the game, make better and deeper quests, unexpected places and events, and bring up again the rpg elements.

I agree with this, imagine Witcher 3 level of story plus the ongoing playability of Fallout 4 with making your own world to suit. Now that would be a clear winner for the game of the century award.

Forget Goties, I'm waiting til they start handing out Lifetime Achievement Awards. Shoo-in for Bethesda.

A. FO4 isn't winning GOTY because the Witcher 3 is an amazing game, not because FO4 is a bad one(although the bugs are probably the biggest thing separating the two IMO).

B. GOTY Awards don't matter if the sales of the game are as big as FO4.

New Vegas "god's gift to gamers" didn't win goty and when this pointed out to all the obsidian fans they replied by saying "goty doesn't mean anything" and they were right. GOTY means nothing because there's a million of them.

I'm reminded of the scene from Zombieland, where Woody Harrelson's character dries his tears with a 100$.

Good. Doesn't deserve any.

And yet NV devs Obsidian did not receive their bonus BECAUSE of these somehow 'irrelevant' awards (might have been metacritic score, could have been GOTYs, cant remember what it was specifically). But these valuations and awards do matter to some extent. Sales are probably more associated with the past successes of that studio, if they start hitting low scores the money wont be coming in as well come FO5/TES 6.

But even so I dont think this will hurt FO4 at all, they are doing extraordinarily well and have gotten a good Metacritic score (not fantastic, but thats probably because spazzes are giving the game 0/10 because they dislike ONE thing).

That being said, I do think FO4 does not deserve GOTY, Witcher 3 definately deserved it this year. Rather than speaking poorly of Bethesda, it speaks volumes about the quality work CDProjektRed put in Witcher.

witcher 3 has boobs, not much competition there. . .

And with loads of consumers with consciousness at this level, what hope is there anyway?

Why does it matter whether a game wins GOTY?

The thing is Witcher 3 has some amazing bugs and issues. Bugs have been a key element of Bethesda games, many of the bugs in Skyrim were NEVER addressed by the dev team, hence the need for USKP patches. I have little doubt that something similar to USKP will be a key component of FO4... As to GOTY, there are so many their worth is negligible at best.

Validation that one has 'good taste'. I could care less. An awesome quality experience with any medium is enough for me.

Are you saying that winning awards should http://tw.greywool.com/i/cgT7E.gif Or what?

Is that the lesson you hope they are gathering?

Not sure we have good bases to know what sales and profit figures are like for the products in question. I'd guess that after the winners pay for their prize they may still be quite profitable, but compared to a game that has set record sales in only its first 1.5 months post release?

Funny how every previous year a Bethesda game scooped up themajority of GOTY awards the haters acted like awards are bought anyways and none of it "really matters" anyways but as soon as they don't all the sudden Bethesda needs to take notes and learn from the winner.



Bethesda warns my GOTY and that's all thatmatters to me. A close second is Splatoon, fun game there.