I dont know how viable that would be. Remaking Fallout 1 and 2 with Fallout 3 engine. The dialogs are already done, the storyline, the quests, places and NPCs. I would not say it would be easy but I think at least 50% of the work is already done. I know I am a huge Fan of Fallout 1 and 2 and I would buy it without hesitation.

No, they should leave the previous games alone.

I am not one of those die hard fallout 1&2 fan boys who curse Beth for what they have done as I believe in taking new directions and I am enjoying Fallout 3. However they should most definitely leave the previous games alone and work on new projects.

1&2 are perfect the way they are.

Me too.

I WANTED Fallout 1 and 2 to be a First Person game.

I didn't want it to be like Crusader: No Remorse and Crusader: No Regret, tiny Isometric view.

The Fallout engine is better than Gamebryo, most notably for the far superior combat. They're fine as they are.

The space just isn't there. It's about a month or more of a walk from one side of F2 to the other, that kind of space in the engine they use just isn't possible, its why us older gamers that play F1 and F2 so much think F3 is crowded as you can fart from anywhere and someone in some location on the map can smell it.

Now one thing I would pay for would be if Bethesda released ALL Van Buren material on a DVD as that game was ... oh... around 90% complete when they ditched it. It probably is in a land fill somewhere though, and it saddens me to think that it will NEVER EVER see the light of day again, but this is the way things are. They are not at all known for being fan friendly or even talk to us so... I don't see it happening.

Releasing it now, at this point as F3 has already been released would not hurt their sales at all and land them about a bajillion positive karma points from the "Rabid Fan Base" and cause allot of good publicity probably swinging the whole of the fan base for them showing they actually care... but what do I know?

Hmm... nope. No way in hell I would ever wanna see those two games remade in light of the way games are subject to much stricter rules and have to be dumbed down to suit all possible audiences. Leave them alone.

:banghead: With statements like this I understand why the old school 1&2 fans are so rude to the newcomers.

Diablo 2,The Icewind Dales, Planescape Torment, Baldur's Gate series and so on should have been fps as well am I right?






I agree I think they should be left alone. I saw someone on the other forums who was new to the series and from Fallout 3 went back to try Fallout 1. His opening statement was something to the effect of "wtf this is hard!".

I enjoy Fallout 3 a great deal for what it is but at the same time I think it is a bit silly of how little the stats and skills impact your game. Compared to 1,2 and Tactics at least.

I agree with the parent! I'd really love to see a total conversion mod done by the player base that brings Fallout 1 & 2 into the future. I want to snipe people at extreme range with the gauss rifle! I've got a good deal of experience modding Oblivion. If someone wants to do a Fallout 1 & 2 mod project, I'd be willing to chip in.

I am sure the majority of people who are new to the series and reject 1&2 as old garbage would not mind it only taking 5 min to walk from Redding to NCR :nope:

I guess the cattle run would be a lot easier to complete

I'd like to see it, but I know I'm in the minority.

By better you mean old and unrealistic? Seriously... I find Fallout 3 at least 5 times more immersive than the first 2 games mostly due to the "realism" factor... Seeing the Mall in ruins like that kinda is creepy. Fallout 1&2 had a lot of unrecognizable generic buildings... like San Francisco... where are the ruins of tall buildings?? New Reno looks nothing like the real New Reno.... But ya... I would LOVE to see a more realistic rendition of Fallout 1 & 2.

So you do not like turn based, that does not mean many others do not find them quite enjoyable.


Honestly this is one of those things I can honestly sleep easy at night knowing it will never happen. I did not even consider it until the post above but with the current engine it would be imposibile to show the large scale landscape of the game.

http://www.falloutprg.republika.pl/img/f2world_big.jpg

To put it bluntly: It is a huge map and the locations are MANY days apart.

For the type of game it is Fallout 3 has the right idea of sticking to a single very large area.

If you were to remake FO and FO2 with the current engine apparently you wouldn't be able to finish the main quest if you played it on 360 due to bugs.

Thanks Everyone. Liek I said I dont know either way but I know I would buy it because I buy everything fallout. At least I wanted to launch the idea because it is something worth talking I think even if nothing comes out of this. Thanks everyone for replies.

The update to Fallout 1 and 2's engine i'd like to see, is the graphical improvements done in fallout tactics, along with high resolution support. Anything beyond that, would ruin the feel of those games.

Compared to Fallout, Fallout 3 is soulless. The brilliant soundtrack of the originals and the superior art design do a much better job at "immersion" than anything Fallout 3 tried. The world of Fallout is coherent and consistent, and the characters are believable. The terrible writing and voice acting (Except for Malcolm McDowell, who's brilliant in anything he's done) in Fallout 3 detracts a lot from the experience.

Immersion =! Kewl graphix.

you can d/l the original soundtracks from the first 2 fallouts and override fallout 3 musics. Helps alot with the atmospheric feel of the game.

Still, it's just not the same and no amount of mods can change the fundamental design.

This would be really bad idea in my opinion, there isn't a stick that long that I could even touch the remake of Fallout 1&2, ofcourse you could try to implement the Fallout 1&2 maps on quick travel and have premade maps for every location fixing the long distances issue with gamebryo engine, but it wouldn't be the same, but still the depth of previous Fallouts would be gone with the new approach.

Remake of these games would be like the bad movie adaptations of good books. My previous Fallout experiences have relied heavily on my imagination, I wouldn't want to see the faces of the characters based on someone elses interpretation.

If someone can't stand the outdated graphics and turn based combat, then don't play Fallout 1 & 2, all treasures aren't meant for everyone so it's your loss if you can't see the trouble to play old games to see the story behind the game universe. There is no need to enlighten everyone who can't stand the old Fallout mechanics, it serves them right if they are so spoiled with graphics and real time combat.

Let the past be the past. Move on. I want a new story.

I would totally play that.

In fact, it's exactly what modders should be doing.

And it almost surely won't happen, although chances that someone might start work on it and give up three or four years later are probably pretty good.

I agree with the sound track the originals were much better. I also agree with the writing the originals were better. Voice acting on the other hand isn't too bad IMO. "soul" is a matter of user opinion and is something someone can "imagine"... like reading a good book... just like reading dialogue which I can understand could be shattered or broken with voice acting that doesn't match your imagination. The world of fallout 1&2 didn't feel too much like the ruins of the present world other than the names... there are no land marks, nothing to connect it to the world we know and are familiar with ... which for me feels like a disconnect. Fallout 3 totally feels like actual ruins of the actual DC.

Everyone has their own idea of a great game and even though I love fallout 1&2 I'm glad that fallout 3 is so fundamentally different than the originals. All i'm saying is that I would love to see a more realistic rendition of San Francisco or LA in ruins.

GOD NO!!!

I say we redo Fallout 3 in the original Isometric style........but with updated graphics.

RPG's and FPS do not mix.

I think Fallout 3 did it pretty dang well. That being said I love the old games. I would actually enjoy playing an updated version using the current engine. The world would have to be either enlarged or compacted a bit to be done properly. I think it could be done with a CS. Would be difficult but it would be just as fun as Fallout 3 if not more so due to the nostalgic factor involved.

Ok, I will admit that it's not that bad. And Oblivion wasn't so bad either. But the writing in FO3 was pretty sloppy, I'll just throw that out there, it's my biggest complaint on the game.