I have seen things...horrible things. All your arguments are invalid.

Also, in other news, I'm a little disappointed that the Falmer just seem to be a Goblin replacement. Not the worst thing they could've done with them, but it's not exactly what I was expecting if they were in.

I'm just glad we'll be able to finally SEE the Falmer.

I suppose that may make sense... but if it is to be the case, I hope the developers put content into the game to acknowledge they are not quite the same species they used to be and the Nords just like to point out how pathetic their former enemies are, hence they pretend otherwise. Only time will tell and I have trouble believing someone at Bethesda wouldn't have seen the things and said "wait a minute... there aren't the Falmer described in previous games", so I do have a hard time believing this is just some oversight. However, we don't really know either way.

Everyone should relax, as far as we know, the writer of that article could just go "ice goblin, durr must be a falmer right?"

Im not gonna say it is or that it isnt, just saying we have no official word on it.

I'm so sick of people constantly making up excuses for Bethesda, this is a real waste of potential.
Bethesda isn't always right, they are humans, they can make mistakes! And this is a big mistake in my books.

Who said they replaced goblins?

The thing is, we never really knew enough about the Falmer or what happened to them to say what they should be now. Though they apparently did fit into suits of steel that fit one of the ten races.


Soo... the orcs get promoted and the Falmer get demoted?

in YOURS, i like the direction of the falmer
had some ideas for interesting quests regarding them too.

Falmer, and not to be overlooked, rabbit legs.

Men invaded their home, forced them to hide underground for thousands of years. You think they would be happy and cheery, singing songs and giving hugs?

I hope Bethesda treats them right :confused:

Mostly everything is a mistake in your book :rolleyes:

I don't understand the problem here? I couldn't be happier that the Falmer are in. There will probably be quest(s) related to them.

Indeed...regardless of what evolutionary changes the Falmer have gone through, they are a proud people...Meaning although their homeland was taken, they wont give the Nords the pleasure of taking away their Title as well. I suppose a good example would be how the Native Americans refuse to be labled under the false title of "Indians".

You're right.

And I'm sick of people thinking it is Bethesda's god-given right for us to buy the game. It isn't and you shouldn't expect everyone to live with bad decisions. Telling people "if you don't like it, pack up and leave" is probably the sickest PR vibe you could ever give. Imagine Pete telling the thousands of fans that their opinion is worth [censored] and they should piss off. That'd really give them great sales.

We should start a revolution. Make a secret cult of like-minded individuals and get something started, maybe even infiltrate Bethesda. I will likely be shot for saying this.

Nobody, I just kind of assumed that they were going to be the Goblins of Skyrim. They seem to serve the same basic function, and all. Of course, I could be wrong and we still have Goblins.

Some people like certain aspects that others don't. You can't please everyone. I'm glad they are the at they're described and not "beautiful snow people".

i believe it's more like the falmer kept their name as a memento of their grudge towards the nords, a "We shall never forget" kind of thing.


i even had an idea for a quest regarding them


Quest Title - A cold retribution


"a vast and ancient dwemer underground metropolis ruins (albeit mostly intact) now occupied by the falmer, they've been biding their time to retake the surface and now the time is nigh.
even deeper below the ruins, an ancient guardian dwells, the dwemer called it their success of science over magic and in the end the creature turned against its masters and even now it continues to protect the deep ruins...as its property."

the creature (a robotic dragon)

http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af117/happystreet3/steampunk-dragon.jpg



i imagine it to look a bit like this but more...steampunk-ish, no futuristic planes like in the pic but old style airships

http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/150/7/4/745fe9ab0018e46e225e0cd5726e3071-d3b9lw3.jpg

i think it would make a great contrast between the surface and the underground

ps: i don't know how intelligent the falmer are but i'd wager they can't reproduce dwemer's technology so we'd see things like armor made out of dwemer spare parts, blades, axes and maces built with pieces of what could have been guns, and the airships are probably dismantled so we'd probably only see pieces of them.

The advancement in stories change. What on Earth are you talking about? Stories EVOLVE and CHANGE as the STORY continues.
A story set in stone is a linear projection of a sequence of events. What happens when those events are over? Does the world end? Uh, no, it evolves, it changes, and it continues. Lore is written for a certain period of time, and then new lore has to be written. TES isn't in some sort of a time capsule that doesn't allow change. Races evolve, entire continents get overrun by other races (Vvardenfell), etc.
Learn some good storytelling, or read a book series.

Awesome.

I'm glad the Falmer are in as well...But I'd like to seem some remnant of their proud and almost regal mentality. I'd hate to seem them all be portrayed as mindless, goblin-ish troglodytes...

Well, it'd be nice, but no. I wasn't expecting them to be the happiest people, but likewise I wasn't expecting them to have devolved this far. I'm not saying it's a surprise, like you said, they've been underground for thousands of years, it's just not what I think they should've done with them.

Come to think of it, they're probably a little on the inbred side as well by now :whistling:

I don't believe those news.

I am amused by the outrage over introducing an elf race that geeks can not jack off to while dungeon crawling. There is great design in adding diversity to the races in the world instead of following the traditional stereotypes. Although, I can see a nerdrage riot fire bombing BGS for making 'not pretty elves'.

Besides, the only good elf is a dead elf.

That's not a good example. The "Indian" label was born of the ignorance of Columbus and Native American people never devolved into bat-like, evil, dungeon-dwelling, goblin-like creatures. They are genetically as they have been for at least several thousand years. The Falmer, on the other hand, went from a civilized humanoid race of Mer to those bat-like, dungeon-dwelling, goblin-like creatures and are not quite like their past selves at all. Evolution dictates that species evolve into other species and from what we've heard and seen of these so-called "Falmer"... they certainly cannot be of the same species as the true, original Falmer... hence they deserve a new title.