Falmer in Skyrim?

Post » Tue Nov 02, 2010 7:03 am

I was wondering that since their history was unaccounted for. Too bad they're not playable.


Did anyone else imagine that was spoken by King Leonidas? :D


Yes, but it's a sloppy speech.
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Post » Tue Nov 02, 2010 1:33 am

Armor of The Snow Prince...Would be epic, reguardless of myth/story/off-topic randomness.....

It would be nice. It is not unreasonable to think that someone found the armor and returned it to it's home in Skyrim. It would probably be found locked up in a museum or the Mages guild for study.
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Post » Tue Nov 02, 2010 3:42 pm

the falmer are dead the nords killed them. and they only existed in solstheim as far as i know.
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Post » Tue Nov 02, 2010 5:13 am

the falmer are dead the nords killed them. and they only existed in solstheim as far as i know.

The Falmer were the original inhabitants of Skyrim and possibly Solstheim. The Nords defeated them and took control of Skyrim but they were not completly wiped out. They integrated with other races and eventually faded but Nord superstitions say that they still exist in Skyrim and are responsible for various misfortunes.
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Post » Tue Nov 02, 2010 5:28 pm

The Falmer were the original inhabitants of Skyrim and possibly Solstheim. The Nords defeated them and took control of Skyrim but they were not completly wiped out. They integrated with other races and eventually faded but Nord superstitions say that they still exist in Skyrim and are responsible for various misfortunes.

so they are basically the brownies imps and leprechauns of nirn goes to show you if the nords dont like you and wipe out your entire race you become a leprechaun
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Post » Tue Nov 02, 2010 8:13 am

It is completely wrong to invoke that real-world anology.
They myths of TES are true and literal. Morihaus was a literally a winged bull, Lorkhan's heart was physically cast out of his chest and into Red Mountain, etc.
If the Falmer exist mythically, they DO exist in some sense. It's just a matter of degree.


Not quite. There are some contradictory facts throughout the lore. The lore itself doubts the existence of the Falmer.
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Post » Tue Nov 02, 2010 8:01 am

This thread went to hell fast, haha. Somebody lock this abomination.
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Post » Tue Nov 02, 2010 6:06 am

It would be nice. It is not unreasonable to think that someone found the armor and returned it to it's home in Skyrim. It would probably be found locked up in a museum or the Mages guild for study.


I mean, the records say it was left at the gravesite, but who knows! Someone may have stolen it and died in it....I just want to see the armor that made the Snow Prince look so darn epic that he could stop a battle with his mere presence!
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Post » Tue Nov 02, 2010 4:33 pm

Yeah let's just make up things randomly as we go along. FYI, history is an avenue of science. You never heard of Occam's Razor? :facepalm:


Science must be mathematically provable or else it is just opinion. Occam's Razor is not a scientific law, it is a practice that is used in making assumptions ("the simplest expanation is usually true" is not an absolute statement, and is therefore not a law). History is merely a collection of stories and information that we use to recompile the past. There is science involved in aspects of it (carbon dating), as well as logic (arranging a timeline), but as it cannot be mathematically proven in any sense, it will never be a science.

(BTW - this is the same reason why most real scientists don't view biology to be a scientific field yet. It is currently composed of assumptions and experimentation, not hard facts and mathematically proven formulae).
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Post » Tue Nov 02, 2010 11:42 am

I mean, the records say it was left at the gravesite, but who knows! Someone may have stolen it and died in it....I just want to see the armor that made the Snow Prince look so darn epic that he could stop a battle with his mere presence!

Yes or maybe the Nerevarine dropped it off before he/she disappeared.
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Post » Tue Nov 02, 2010 5:39 am

Yes or maybe the Nerevarine dropped it off before he/she disappeared.


I like they way you think!
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Post » Tue Nov 02, 2010 4:08 am

"Uncle, I saw signs that might be Falmer boundary-runes, but nothing sure. If any survive, they are wary and withdrawn." - http://www.imperial-library.info/content/pocket-guide-empire-first-edition-skyrim#4

Nice link. It would be interesting to see if any of the Nords will blame the Falmer for the events in Skyrim in-game. With the reputation the Nords have I wouldn't be surprised if some of them decided to go after other Elves under the suspicion that they are Falmer in disguise.
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Post » Tue Nov 02, 2010 4:33 am

guys guys stop the debating know one realy knows who or what realy existed or who or what realy dont exist if its lore friendly i think they should put them in exept the only way to find out about them is to climb the tallest mountain of that region and ask a hermit or somthin if its not then dont add it.
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Post » Tue Nov 02, 2010 12:36 pm

guys guys stop the debating know one realy knows who or what realy existed or who or what realy dont exist if its lore friendly i think they should put them in exept the only way to find out about them is to climb the tallest mountain of that region and ask a hermit or somthin if its not then dont add it.

heh, that could work out quite well.
We've already got a convenient highest peak with a group of wise recluses on top; High Hrothgar and the Greybeards.
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Post » Tue Nov 02, 2010 9:01 am

exactly!
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Post » Tue Nov 02, 2010 4:13 pm


Of course, the difference is that myths in Skyrim are much more probable to be real than in our world. But that's about it.


This. This right here. This is what everyone is trying to say.

The Falmer might just be a myth. However, dragons were pretty much myths too; and now they're popping up all over the place. Falmer might be a childen's tale, or they might not. However, since this is the made up world of the Elder Scrolls, created by a gaming company, the Falmer are a piece of made up lore that are more likely to be "real" than they are likely to be a meta-folktale.

EDIT: It's not very well known lore . . . so, I'm guessing they won't be in Skyrim.
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Post » Tue Nov 02, 2010 2:56 pm

This. This right here. This is what everyone is trying to say.

The Falmer might just be a myth. However, dragons were pretty much myths too; and now they're popping up all over the place. Falmer might be a childen's tale, or they might not. However, since this is the made up world of the Elder Scrolls, created by a gaming company, the Falmer are a piece of made up lore that are more likely to be "real" than they are likely to be a meta-folktale.

EDIT: It's not very well known lore . . . so, I'm guessing they won't be in Skyrim.

You have a point but I truly do not believe that the Falmer are a myth. There may not be much evidence of their existence but they definitely had an impact in regards to their interaction with other races and the whole War and Genocide thing. Not one of the several sources of information I have read on the Falmer peg them as a myth and several of them claim that the quest in Morrowind involving the Altmer scholar and his search for the Tomb of the Snow Prince was proof of their existence. And Dragons were never a myth. This particular event in Skyrim involving Dragons was a myth if that's what you meant.
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Post » Tue Nov 02, 2010 10:53 am

It has been revealed that Skyrim will feature both Daedric and Dwemer ruins. It is said that all Falmer architecture was destroyed by the nords many a year ago but Skyrim remains a wild nation. What do you think of the possibility of running into a Falmer ruin? Maybe doning a Snow Prince-like armor or discovering other Falmer artifacts and weapons?
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Post » Tue Nov 02, 2010 6:07 pm

i would like to see the falmer race occupying lost dwemer ruins, biding their time by building their numbers and saluaging technology to take skyrim back from the hands of men.


...and ultimately fail, i'll play as a nord so that's a given :P
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Post » Tue Nov 02, 2010 9:03 am

Falmer may have existed, but they were probably a beast-race remnant, and not a true "Mer", as in a descendent of the Aldmer.
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Post » Tue Nov 02, 2010 2:24 pm

There was a Falmer in redguard, so they did/do exist. Really hope there's at least a little something on them!
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Post » Tue Nov 02, 2010 6:34 am

i would like to see the falmer race occupying lost dwemer ruins, biding their time by building their numbers and saluaging technology to take skyrim back from the hands of men.


...and ultimately fail, i'll play as a nord so that's a given :P

Interesting. Now would be the perfect time to attempt such a coup with the civil war and the reappearance of Dragons. It would be coo to see this hybrid of Nord enemies and maybe the Dunmer remnants of the Great Houses will lend a hand. It was said that there would be an emphasis on animosity between Nords and Elves.
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Post » Tue Nov 02, 2010 4:16 pm

I highly doubt that Thor was a real person who controlled the weather and threw a lightning hammer at the several-thousand-mile-long Jormungand, and yet it rather heavily defined the Norse culture. Stories don't have to be true in order to have a real effect, the only requirement is that people believe in it. Same with Jesus and Muhammed, or Atlantis for that matter.

Why throw Jesus in there? I don't want to get into this but there is evedence of Jesus walking the earth and do healings and miracles, many Roman, Greek, Eygiptians, ect. have wrote about him and talking about him when they lived during his time, even Ceasor wrot about him. For Atlantis, Thor, Zeus, ect. are just stories and if they lived we would never know becuase they lived acroding to history back in B.C. area
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Post » Tue Nov 02, 2010 3:56 pm

There was a Falmer in redguard, so they did/do exist. Really hope there's at least a little something on them!

Where?

[edit] At the above: don't bring religion into this, unless you fancy a speedy thread lock.
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Post » Tue Nov 02, 2010 7:35 pm

Falmer may have existed, but they were probably a beast-race remnant, and not a true "Mer", as in a descendent of the Aldmer.

It is stated in lore that the Falmer were in fact Elves and thus descendents of the Aldmer. I have found no references to the Falmer describing them as beast, save the Nords of Solstheim explanation that they devolved into Rieklings.
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