Famitsu (highly respected Japanese gaming mag) gives Skyrim

Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 9:53 pm

Does your version also have no bugs at all?


Mine hasn't but sometimes it doesn't matter because if the game (gameplay, fun etc) is perfect, those bugs are just ignorable so for the current generation of games it is indeed perfect.
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Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 11:09 am

Well congrats to Skyrim, though I'm kinda surprised myself. I'd deduct at least a point each for the very detail-lacking storyline and short faction quest chains.
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Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 11:29 pm

Does your version also have no bugs at all?


I've never encountered a game this huge with so little bugs in my life. The bugs were so mini that it didn't even bother my game play at all.
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Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 9:54 pm

I'm pretty sure that perfect means "withour fault or flaw".

So, you're wrong.


no it doesnt mean that...perfect score doesnt mean its perfect it simply means it scores the highest on the score table...diverse products can never be perfect cause there is not 1 ultimate measurable same goal/result...you cant take it literally...and dont be such a smart -ass
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Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 10:02 pm

No game ever deserves a perfect score. Perfect would mean that it could never be improved whatsoever. Basically such a game would have to feel exactly like reality, with enough content to keep playing a whole lifetime, and all of it highly entertaining. Never gonna happen.


Okay, then why have a part of the scale that is unreachable? If you are grading on a scale of 1 to 10 and 10 is unreachable then you are unreasonable. Make the scale 1-9, all a "Perfect game" is is a 9 on a scale of 1-10.

I mean if you wanna be a jerk about it two can play that game. I mean technically perfection is unachievable and yet we have people that call themselves perfectionists... The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. So therefor people who strive for perfection or even think it is obtainable are the very definition of crazy. So "Perfect" is somethiing that shouldnt even exist. SO when you hear a game got a "Perfect" score, dont be a punk about it just realize that it means "Its as close to perfect as is obtainable considering we are human and humans by their very definition make mistakes." Ever heard of "Human Error."?
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Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 11:50 am

Well congrats to Skyrim, though I'm kinda surprised myself. I'd deduct at least a point each for the very detail-lacking storyline and short faction quest chains.



The story writing in this game is better than New Vegas. New Vegas at times was overly sentimental. Poor Dog and the stupid scientists from the DLC's, lets spend half an hour on slides obsessing over their downfall.
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Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 6:16 pm

i thought the story of new vegas was better simply because it was more believable, had more options and twists and i more felt like a part from a independent living world...
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Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 6:11 pm

You know you can never satisfy some people. I love the story, I love the characters, I love the land, I love the combat, I love the leveling system, I love ....etc.

To me that is perfect. To you, perfect means ugh oh, low level dragons are too easy.....game is broken !

Grow up.



The definition of perfect is not subjective and therefore not open to discussion, what you define as a perfect game does not deserve that term (very good game would be adequate perhaps).

So again, a magazine that hands out perfect scores (no matter to which game) does something fundamentally wrong.

And flaming has never helped to establish one's argument or make it more convincing .
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Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 1:38 pm

The story writing in this game is better than New Vegas. New Vegas at times was overly sentimental. Poor Dog and the stupid scientists from the DLC's, lets spend half an hour on slides obsessing over their downfall.


The ending I got in Old World Blues made me cry and I dont give a damn who knows it.
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Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 10:38 pm

The definition of perfect is not subjective and therefore not open to discussion, what you define as a perfect game does not deserve that term (very good game would be adequate perhaps).

So again, a magazine that hands out perfect scores (no matter to which game) does something fundamentally wrong.

And flaming has never helped to establish one's argument or make it more convincing .


Then why even know the word. Perfection (to you) is as real as the Nords in Skyrim are...and thats not at all. Why spend your time thinking about something that is not only unachievable but never existed in the first place. Its an imaginary concept according to you.
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Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 10:50 pm

The oldest definition of "perfection", fairly precise and distinguishing the shades of the concept, goes back to Aristotle. In Book Delta of the Metaphysics, he distinguishes three meanings of the term, or rather three shades of one meaning, but in any case three different concepts. That is perfect:

1. which is complete — which contains all the requisite parts;
2. which is so good that nothing of the kind could be better;
3. which has attained its purpose
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Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 11:42 am

I have to be honest, this game doesn't deserve a perfect score currently. It is easily one of my favorite games. However, it is riddled with bugs to an extent that I have never seen in a top bill release. I was expecting a certain amount of bugs, but the amount and scale of certain bugs is astounding. I couldn't imagine playing this game on a console, it would be infuriating. I'll also say the same about certain elements found throughout the game - they are too varied to really be described without a long list. The combination of these poorly thought out elements and the scale and amount of bugs makes it seem like play testing this game was a second thought and done extremely poorly. This game seems like a late beta.

I love this game and am still continually surprised by some of the cool stuff I find, but giving Skyrim a perfect score with the problems it has is a clear oversight.
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Post » Mon Dec 12, 2011 1:33 am

hahahahaha, the Japanese are way more critical when it comes to evaluating games, not to mention the fact that Famitsu isn't on the payroll of the American gaming coalition.
Famitsu has demonstrated numerous times their ridiculous bias. I think at one point that straight up admitted that they give games from a respected developer higher scores regardless the game's quality.
I guess haters are gonna hate anyway though.

Sometimes I wish I was dumb enough to just yell about haters and think that solves everything.
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Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 9:51 am

Another example of Famitsu's complete lack of credibility.


You're a [censored]in idiot
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Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 10:36 am

Then why even know the word. Perfection (to you) is as real as the Nords in Skyrim are...and thats not at all. Why spend your time thinking about something that is not only unachievable but never existed in the first place. Its an imaginary concept according to you.


If humanity had lived according to this priciple, then we would still huddle in caves.

Perfection is a theoretical concept, yes, but a necessary one.


@Nemesis
I like that definition, thank you :)
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Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 6:30 pm

I have to be honest, this game doesn't deserve a perfect score currently. It is easily one of my favorite games. However, it is riddled with bugs to an extent that I have never seen in a top bill release. I was expecting a certain amount of bugs, but the amount and scale of certain bugs is astounding. I couldn't imagine playing this game on a console, it would be infuriating. I'll also say the same about certain elements found throughout the game - they are too varied to really be described without a long list. The combination of these poorly thought out elements and the scale and amount of bugs makes it seem like play testing this game was a second thought and done extremely poorly. This game seems like a late beta.

I love this game and am still continually surprised by some of the cool stuff I find, but giving Skyrim a perfect score with the problems it has is a clear oversight.


agree..the one thing that annoys me the most is that i often encounter things that are being contemplated (unique items, items in general, quests, factions, level scaling, difficutliy) bards as being a good example, but are then not brought to the ground...such as someone said ooo bards are super cool, lets put some bards in it...and by the time they had done the ground work they run out of time and just left the basics back...i feel that way with A LOT of things...and its said because it leaves so much potential unused
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Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 12:03 pm

I truly hope gaming companies stop making pc games. so all the pc hate everything in the world attitude will wither and die off. One can only hope. I've put in over 100 hours into the game.. So in my book it gets as close to a perfect score as one can get.
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Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 9:23 pm

I just dont see it. I think the hype is getting the score rather then the game itself
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Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 6:52 pm

Hmm, kinda of weird.

But then again, japs prefer games where you just mash the same button over and over, and that's what TES has become.

Oh sure, what do those "japs" know. I mean they only gave us the modern video game revolution. Without the kick start of Nintendo and others I doubt video games would have become the household entertainment powerhouse they are today, at least not as quickly.

They set so many standards, raised so many bars. Mario notwithstanding, just look at some of the talent poured into games like Zelda and Final Fantasy. Sure the sound was limited on the older hardware, but the elaborate and beautiful musical compositions they managed to pull off… I can still recall the classics like some modern digital lullaby, and find myself humming themes from early Nintendo titles even to this day.

I really have so much respect for this aspect of modern Japanese culture. Manga too, as there is some truly EPIC storytelling going on. How about Cowboy Bebop? So much of the really good modern sci-fi is produced through Japanese studios, and many of the archetypal characters and story tropes originate in Japanese manga and video game titles.

So, for a reputable publication in the Japanese video game industry to recognize Skyrim in such a way is high praise indeed. Time will tell how sales pan out. But then, we already knew it was totally awesome, didn't we?

Now try to imagine ten years from now...
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Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 8:47 pm

Awesome.
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Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 11:31 am

Oh sure, what do those "japs" know. I mean they only gave us the modern video game revolution.


You have no idea what you're talking about.
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Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 2:40 pm

I really have so much respect for this aspect of modern Japanese culture. Manga too, as there is some truly EPIC storytelling going on. How about Cowboy Bebop? So much of the really good modern sci-fi is produced through Japanese studios, and many of the archetypal characters and story tropes originate in Japanese manga and video game titles.


good for you...i spent some time in japan and i gota tell you THEY ARE WEIRD - in any aspect...no seriously the japanese have a ton of creativity and ideas, but they are really bad in execution / mechanics / processes....and marketing thats were the us are usually quite good...but that might also be due to that we enjoy the way of western story telling more...the japanese like the eastern way more so..thats why also a lot of movies made in hollywood originated in other countries and also in japan
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Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 8:49 pm

You have no idea what you're talking about.

Uh, like yeah man, I should bow to your superior naysaying or something. Opinions are like a-holes…

Maybe I just have a different perspective having grown up during the 1980-1990 video game revolution. Or maybe I just take offense at someone making thinly veiled racist statements about the "japs" preferring mash titles.

Whatever.
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Post » Mon Dec 12, 2011 1:41 am

It's definitely a rare event that a game gets a 40/40 score, and it is a great achievement for Bethesda. :) I feel it is well deserved, too, as Skyrim is one of the best games I've played in the past twenty-five years (and I didn't start playing video games as a kid). Is it "perfect"? No, is anything ever perfect? But is it heaps of fun, immersing, large and open, rich in lore and scopre, with a lot of love to detail? Absolutely.

I think if people focused more on stuff they appreciate instead of always looking for things to complain about or to criticize (not just games), the world would be a happier, more enjoyable place.
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Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 8:35 pm

Quite an achievement if indeed they are the first western game to get a perfect score.
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