Fast Travel Now Costs Money

Post » Mon Aug 08, 2011 9:48 am

What i would have liked was pre determined locations in-between villages where you would go to a carriage and travel in-between villages on a cart/cartridge, this would be cheap, if you wanted to set a pre determined location it would cost money, the routes which go in-between villages use roads, and therefore are safe(and cheap) if you set a marker, there will be random fights, where you have to guard your carriage, my 2 cents.

from Skyrim village 1 to village 2. £7

from village 1 to destination:£30 ARGH A GODDAM MONSTA!

Defend your carriage
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Post » Mon Aug 08, 2011 8:38 pm

I like this a lot. This was the case in Morrowind and you had to weigh your options much more, especially early on. I'm a big fan of them bringing this back! :celebration:
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Post » Mon Aug 08, 2011 5:41 pm

I have a feeling they're just referring to the carriage system, otherwise I think we would have heard of this by now. If not, yay!
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Post » Mon Aug 08, 2011 7:49 pm

It works in games like WoW so it must be good.
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Post » Mon Aug 08, 2011 11:36 am

from village 1 to destination:£30 ARGH A GODDAM MONSTA!

Defend your carriage


Or perhaps "Everyone in your carriage has died of dysentery."
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Post » Mon Aug 08, 2011 11:54 am

Bit like Red Dead? or can you call it anywhere like a taxi in new york?
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Post » Mon Aug 08, 2011 3:37 pm

Sehr gut!
I like the idea
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Post » Mon Aug 08, 2011 7:02 am

Weeeee! They did listen!
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Post » Mon Aug 08, 2011 8:18 am

Guess I go back to liberal use of the COC command like I did in Morrowind.

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Post » Mon Aug 08, 2011 4:31 pm

did not fast travel cost money in morrowind??

well it did in oblivion, the cost of the horse.... or horses...


if its caravan this time then its better, I would still rather just walk
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Post » Mon Aug 08, 2011 9:31 am

You're perfectly right. It would be wonderful if based on your skills, the game would randomly calculate some minor increases for things you are likely to use (Bowskill, Longsword Skill, Heavy armor skill) and then also give a chance to add to your inventory items you might pick up. This could be established in such as way as to create an interesting narrative for each of your travels, such as "You arrive in Winterhold. On your way you used 5 arrows, added slight wear to your bow, and gained venison." Or "Your arrive in Winterhold. On your way your Heavy armor skill increased, your Steel longsword received minor wear, and you gained 10 gold and a silver dagger." You can see how these easily represent their own adventures, such as hunting a deer or encountering a bandit.


I never said anything about getting random increases. You simply don't get anything out of fast traveling. Simply a quicker pace in time. Really, by fast traveling consistingly, you're only hurting yourself. As you don't experience the game, but if someone finds fascination from nothing more than merely fast traveling then I say, let them have at it. They're having fun with the game. The rest of us, can go on our epic journeys, discover that hidden fort with the really exceptional loot.

Besides, in Oblivion, while adventuring through, the wilderness and roads, I didn't encounter that much to be honest. Sometimes, I might have been better off if I had just fast traveled. Perhaps, you should be more concerned with what is out and about on roads and in the wilderness more than about a fast traveling system. Maybe spend more time, thinking of ways to IMPROVE the bestiary and wilderness via types of creatures, their placement, how they spawn, rather than bash the fast travel. Give players more incentive to want to go out there and explore that dangerous world seething with extradorinary creatures. Give people a reason to explore.

Also, I always get side-tracked in the Elder scrolls so it takes me a while to get things done usually, but sometimes I dedicated time to dungeon crawlings. Sometimes people just need to get to where they want to go. No questions asked.


I just don't get why you need a "fast travel" option when previous games already gave you transport along with teleportation spells and scrolls. The means to travel quickly (in the game and out of it) are already in place. I just feel it is another simplification. Is it tedious? Yes, but so is inventory management, and repairing weapons, and having to restore your health. They are the nasty little parts of the game that make the fun parts seem comparably more fun.

Also, Oblivion's problem was that because fast travel was so inherent to their system, they thought nothing of having the Fighter's Guild in Cheydinhal sending you on a mission in Anvil. Ridiculous. I NEVER had a problem traveling in Morrowind, either using the systems or walking. In fact, I LOVED the "journey" aspect of taking a silt strider to a port town, taking a boat to another city up the coast, wandering into the wilderness, getting lost, then hoofing it to some minor settlement to unload gear, repair and refresh.

But each time I tried to avoid using fast travel in Oblivion, I got INCREDIBLY frustrated, partially because there was no fast travel outside of the "menu teleport" so I was walking/riding everywhere, and because there was no mounted combat, I found myself dismounting every 2 minutes, OR leading a circus train of lions, tigers, and bears, OH MY. Nevermind the above problem of having quest which send you across the map.


Again, each player finds excitement by various means. Maybe some players desire that linear, "ok, you told me to do something, I want to get it done , right now, instantaneously" agenda where they want to just fast travel and complete the quest. So be it.

Maybe someone has a desire to look at the architecture in the cities and revel in it's marvel. Perhaps, someone wants to read up on some lore and check out some books. Each of which is scattered about. Maybe they don't feel like running around to get to these specific areas. Maybe they want to cut right in and get down to business. Maybe I'm in mood to avoid conflict, I'll explore the Chorrol mages guild hall and check out the city. I'll fast travel to do that.

It's the players' choice, not yours, not mine, not anyone but who is playing their game, it's their world when they're playing, not anyone else's.

Again, instead of bashing fast travel, think of benevolent and positive ways to help out transportation. Ways to make that better. Rather than leave it the way it is, and try to drag down fast travel, making two options more negative rather than positive in any way. What ways could transportation be better so I'm actually excited to use it? Better yet, think of ways to improve the quests so you won't need or want to use fast travel. Give people a reason to explore a quest, change some dynamics to make quests more fluid. Don't bash the fast travel system. I just ask, add improvements so that the desire for one to fast travels diminishes rather than malevolently demean a system which is there for those who use it with convience in mind. With great options, come great decisions. In the end, the player decides how fast travel is implemented, not anyone else. The option is put there for your use, however you may choose.
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Post » Mon Aug 08, 2011 9:10 am

I won't use it until I'm very high level on my 4th play-through

so it won't matter :D
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Post » Mon Aug 08, 2011 5:56 am

If this is the case it really svckS in my opinion. I have very limited time to play games and fast travel was something I use constantly so I could complete quests and such. I always tried to complete a quest before I had to shut down for that gaming session. Now I will be forced to either take days to complete something or be penalized for something that is out of my control. This is as bad as check points for saves.
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Post » Mon Aug 08, 2011 8:01 am

Proof people will never be satisfied. Go Bethesda, and make the game your way.
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Post » Mon Aug 08, 2011 12:49 pm

I doubt we'll have to pay for fast travel, outside of carriages.
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Post » Mon Aug 08, 2011 5:04 pm

I don't get it.
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Post » Mon Aug 08, 2011 7:10 am

If this feature was added it would nice, I need more gold sinks because we all know after level 20 all we can spend it on is maybe houses xD

I wonder if the carriage will actually move or will it just be teleport once you hit ok.
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Post » Mon Aug 08, 2011 9:39 am

i tought we had 2 ways to travel transportation and fast travel

seems stupid to charge for fast travel
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Post » Mon Aug 08, 2011 2:24 pm

I think its cool if you have to pay to fast travel, it is a good way for others to not abuse it so much...
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Post » Mon Aug 08, 2011 2:11 pm

I think its cool if you have to pay to fast travel, it is a good way for others to not abuse it so much...



I don't understand your statement. How is it abuse to play a game the way you prefer to play it. It's a single player game we are not competing with anyone else we should be able to enjoying it from our own personal perspective. There doesn't need to be a level playing field. Charging for fast travel will be one of the first things I mod out of the game if it is possible.

As for the carriage system, if it's just the same as the striders were in Morrowwind (which was basically fast travel) it will be very lame. I would expect much more from a modern game. You should have to pay for your ride in a carriage and it should drive you through the game world to your destination. If it doesn't I will be disappointed.
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Post » Mon Aug 08, 2011 2:33 pm

I don't understand your statement. How is it abuse to play a game the way you prefer to play it. It's a single player game we are not competing with anyone else we should be able to enjoying it from our own personal perspective. There doesn't need to be a level playing field. Charging for fast travel will be one of the first things I mod out of the game if it is possible.

As for the carriage system, if it's just the same as the striders were in Morrowwind (which was basically fast travel) it will be very lame. I would expect much more from a modern game. You should have to pay for your ride in a carriage and it should drive you through the game world to your destination. If it doesn't I will be disappointed.


Ya I guess you are right, I take back what I said
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Post » Mon Aug 08, 2011 5:49 am

If this feature was added it would nice, I need more gold sinks because we all know after level 20 all we can spend it on is maybe houses xD

I wonder if the carriage will actually move or will it just be teleport once you hit ok.

Todd has stated the he and many others at BGS are big RDR fans....
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Post » Mon Aug 08, 2011 9:19 am

Gives you an incentive to not use fast travel, prevents endless buildup of gold. I like it. Complaints that it makes no sense are irrelevant in my view. It's abstraction, the cost of travel. Provisions, inns, etc. etc. What matters is that it affects the game.

I never said anything about getting random increases. You simply don't get anything out of fast traveling. Simply a quicker pace in time. Really, by fast traveling consistingly, you're only hurting yourself. As you don't experience the game, but if someone finds fascination from nothing more than merely fast traveling then I say, let them have at it. They're having fun with the game. The rest of us, can go on our epic journeys, discover that hidden fort with the really exceptional loot.


What you get out of it is convenience. You get to where you need to go right away instead of in ten minutes. If you only have a small window of time to play each day (or even each week) this is a [censored] godsend.
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Post » Mon Aug 08, 2011 7:40 am

Who gets my money?
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Post » Mon Aug 08, 2011 4:00 pm

if it costs more to map travel than travel by npc, then it sounds good, interesting compromise.
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