I'm sure that there a lot of games i've played that use this system, it woud have to have the option to pay for saf passage, as I would get really pissed off if I was doing a simple courier quest and I had to fight abunch of mudcrabs, which pushes up the amount of loading screens and makes fast travel not that fast at all

By what I'm reading here, I'm guessing that many of the people that like the Morrowind system never played Daggerfall (Many people, not all) as Dagerfall's was in many regards like the Oblivion system, as in unless you had traveled to a given point on foot first you could not fast travel there--unless it was marked on your map by someone--I think, it's been a long while. But what I liked about the Daggerfall system was the options for camping out, staying in inns, traveling recklessly or cautiously. It gave options that had consequences. There were more encounters if traveling recklessly, and staying in inns costs precious septims. Using the Horse option if you had a horse would get you there quicker, but tim actually progressed. You could show up at a location a week later in the middle of the night, having fought orcs and spriggans on the way. To me it was just much more immersive. Granted the land mass for Daggerfall was absolutely immense compared to Oblivion, that doing everything on foot would be insane.

Morrowind's was decent, I like the idea of traveling services. Definitely adds to immersion. But it wasn't technically fast travel in the same sense of what existed in Daggerfall.

I'd like to see something like Daggerfall, perhaps with some more limitations, but I love the options. A service would be cool too, maybe hitch a ride with a merchant wane or caravan to key locations. This would allow one to travel with say minimal interruptions if any. Though might be interesting to have a merchant caravan ambushed by a large group of bandits.

Oblivion's was a bit stale, and lacked any immersion. But sometimes one really doesn't want to have to run all the way back to a place you just came from after just having spent a half hour reaching your initial destination. I like having the option. Which is also why I missed Mark and Recall from Daggerfall. Thank the Nine for modders.

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Daggerfall was the largest map of any ES game (maybe even any game) so fast travel was justified, but Oblivion was too large for no form of Fast travel but too small too justify instant Fast Travel to anywhere on the map, I get what your saying though (I have completed Daggerfalls MQ )

fast travel has already been confirmed

Yes, but the form of fast travel is not yes specified

To be what? No, we don't know anything more than that we don't have to walk everywhere.

Honestly..

In Morrowind it was more necessary. You have immersion and all that, but the fact somebody would be standing there 24/7/365 just to shoot me to a black/loading screen was immersion breaking enough. The fact is that Morrowind's movement speeds were so much slower that you had to use this to get anywhere in a timely fashion. That is, if you could figure out which routes went where and which service took you to another service that would let you get to the place you were meaning to go. Trying to remember what would get me to Dagon Fel or one of the Telvanni cities was always a pain.

Oblivion: If you hadn't noticed, you're a good bit speedier than poor Nerevar Reborn was. Even if you DO walk, you can still get across the map pretty quickly. If you've got a horse, this is even shorter. It isn't as necessary as in Morrowind because it only takes a few minutes to get from city to city. Sure, some have longer travel times..but nothing like the glacial molasses-in-winter pace in MW.

I'd like to have both. Oblivion's FT for the times I'm just hauling junk, and MW's method so I don't have to see the fifteen millionth thread complaining about Fast Travel.

In Morrowind pretty much everyone stayed where they were 24/7, the AI wasn't too great

Meh, in Morrowind I moved pretty damn fast with the Boots of Blinding Speed. That and I could jump high and far. I didn't mind walking everywhere. In Oblivion I moved slower and couldn't jump as high.

Me thinks the only reason Daggerfall style doesn't have more votes is because less people are familiar with it.

are their any modders that could comment on how easy it would be to add daggerfall options to a oblivion style fast travel system. could you add a script that calculated cost and maybe even have random ambushes occur. would that be easy or difficult to implement. if this could be done that way it would go along ways to making fast travel less of an issue with lots of people including me. although if i had my choice i would like morrowinds system.

Given that it set your speed at double the maximum (200 points!) I'd certainly hope that you would move fast.

I'm talking base movement speed, what you'd get without that kind of item.

But that item was ridiculously easy to obtain

Oblivion/FO3 fast travel is already confirmed, and while I am happy to see it's return, I do think that Bethesda should at least allow the option to turn it off and put in a few network fast travel NPCs for the people that liked Morrowind's fast travel system. I can't imagine that it would be difficult to impliment in the least.

Abandon all hope ye who enters here....

I can't understand for the life of me why people actually preferred Morrowind's tedious as [censored] system over a simple point and click, bam you're there and don't have to back track system. Being bored is fun no?

For me oblivions fast travel just feels wrong, like playing Baldurs Gate and using the console to enable cheat keys and teleporting your party everywhere.
That is boring...

Because 'fade to black' just isn't immersive, no matter how you look at it

Oblivion-style fast travel is supposed to imitate walking instead of teleportation. So, for immersion, all that is needed is to remind the player that their character is moving across the map.

In my opinion, adding consequences (e.g., encounters) to the trips like in Daggerfall or Fallout would be enough.

It's not immersive to assume that you wouldn't notice inns on the road or that animals are gone, so yeah encounters are a must

And I can't really understand why people want these huge open worlds if they can't handle them, if walking past a tree and a rock twice is tedious backtracking. But maybe it isn't my place to understand it, who knows. Maybe Beth should make smaller maps.

Did Baldur's Gate force you to backtrack through the same area a few billion times before the cheaters said "Screw this" and actually decided to play the freaking game?


You do realize Silt Strider and boat rides were basically fast travel with a few limitations on them right?

Oh, and Daggerfall.

IMO, Daggerfall's was the best. If you don't have enough supplies for the journey, you will perish.

However, it might not work in these newer games because they are vastly smaller in scale than Daggerfall is, and if you DON'T use fast travel, you could possibly get somewhere "faster" without using any resources.

Baldurs Gate didnt force me to backtrack anymore then Morrowind did.

Yes, it is called fast travel in the poll