Pelinial is a racist swine! Hating the true rulers of Nirn, the Mer is ludicrous!

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Death to all mer! No longer shall the Ayleids be the slavers of men of this great land of Cyrodiil. Your Daedric armies are gone. We have the Nine on our side. The breath of Kyne, the keeper of the Amulets of Kings, and Shezarr reborn shall assist us Cyro-Nords in our overthrowing of the Ayleid empire. Cyrodiil now belongs to the races of man! Long live the empire!

-fast forward two eras later to the Oblivion Crisis. While Mankar Camoran and Umaril failed to bring back the old ways, the Amulet has been shattered and the empire has crumbled. A reborn Shezarrine lives among us, but he is gone and now holds the throne of Sheogorath, prince of Madness. Let's get some popcorn and wait for the fireworks in the next book and TES V's plot.

Some mer have lost their homeland, though. What's this? They go to Solstheim. The Skaal better not help them. Those mer deserve what's coming to them!

The OP said his/her lore is a bit rusty, and I had to tell him/her about Morihaus, Reman, and Umaril, as well. :shrug:

...but I really hope Pelinal gets put up there. That mer-killing maniac is awesome. Things can't get much cooler than the reincarnation of Lorkhan who has a hand made of powerful light.

I can't decide which of the Tribunal to choose!

Vivec has done great things, but so has Sotha Sil. Almalexia was good before you know what.

Ayleids fine, but leave the other Mer alone!

Why stop with the Wild Elves? All mer must die! Man shall triumph. First, the Bosmer die, just as the Adoring Fan did. Then, the Altmer die. The lizards and a big rock took care of the Dunmer, so our work will be done after the Altmer.

Added Pelinal, since you insisted, Seti

In the tongue of the Heartland High Elves, "Anu suna tye"(Anu bless you).

I vote Pelinal Whitestrake(a.k.a. Ysmir, Hans the Fox, and Harrald Hairy Breeks).

Dellevoy naga av che!(Grant death of Mer!)

Chock one more for Pelinal.

You should add Nerevarine, cause he/she was wicked bad-ass.

Anyways, I chose Pelinal (even though he killed some Khajiit) due to the fact that he was also wicked bad-ass and hated Mer, which makes him good in my book.

Nobody likes Morihaus, I see.

Wicked bad-ass does not a demi-god make.

The nerevarine isn't a demi-god, it's just the supposed reincarnation of a long dead mortal hero.

Nerevarine killed gods, he deserves demi-god status at least. By the way to those saying Dagoth Ur is a demi-god. He is a god, as are the Tribunal. Not god-like. They are gods.

Vivec all the way. :rock:

Perhaps my lore in this area is a bit rusty(never completed any Elder Scrolls main questlines), but weren't the Tribunal weakened due to a long separation from the heart of Lorkhan and wasn't Dagoth-Ur only killable after the heart was destroyed? Also, didn't the events of Tribunal only take place after the heart of Lorkhan was destroyed, therefore making Dagoth-Ur a powerful mortal when killed, Almalexia a powerful mortal when killed, and Vivec a powerful mortal if killed(possible before the heart's destruction, but he was also separated from the heart for a long time)? Therefore, the Nerevarine never killed a god, only powerful mortals who relied on a source of power that wasn't their own(what are filthy Mer doing using Lorkhan's heart, anyway)?

Dagoth Ur was "slain" after the heart was destroyed. However, Nerevar bested him in physical combat before the heart was destroyed. Vivec could be killed before the heart was destroyed. Nerevar bested Hircine in his hunt. He brought down the false gods. If he isn't at least demi-god status, he's being cheated in the lore department...

Vivec, followed by Sotha Sil. Vivec is a very deep and interesting character. I love his backstory, and I think Beth did a great job on him.

Vivec was never canonly killed before the destruction of the heart, and even if he was, doesn't being away from the heart for too long weaken him? From what I've read of his/her challenge involving Hircine, it was only an aspect of Hircine, not Hircine himself. Is that true? If the Nerevarine is a demi-god, then there are also a few others to add to the list. Cyrus, the Battlespire recruit, and the CoC would rival the Nerevarine in the power struggle. I've never played either of the spin-off, but Cyrus was called something similar to "Hoonding" and it sounded important and I also read that he defeated a dragon and Dagon. The Battlespire recruit also defeated Dagon. The CoC did not defeat Dagon, but he/she did defeat Umaril and he successfully became Pelinal's successor, and therefore, he/she is also a Shezarrine. Along with that, he/she defeated Jyggalag and became Sheogorath. Whether he succeeded in fully mantling Sheogorath or not is still up in the air, but all four of these people have impressive resumes. Are they all equal to demi-gods?

By the way, what is it with Dagon? Bethesda sure seems to love him. Even Almalexia fought Dagon and Dagon was involved with the Imperial Simulacrum, too.

Because he's the only god who just wants to destroy everything

That's true, but why destroy everything when we can just destroy all the Mer?

I just noticed something else. Lorkhan's also getting pretty important. First, his heart plays a big role as the Tribunal's and Dagoth-Ur's source of power as well as what holds the Red Mountain anchor together. Then, Mankar Camoran is obsessed with Lorkhan, claiming Tamriel is Lorkhan's realm of Oblivion. Then, Lorkhan's connection to Cyrodiilic history is explored and we find a mortal incarnation, Pelinal. We must then follow in Pelinal's footsteps and therefore we are the incarnation of Lorkhan.

Again, theres no evidence that Pelinal is in fact Lorkhan :\ Only similarities.

And what's with you and the mer?

What if I were to say that Pelinal was from the future? Also, it's more accurate to say he was Shor's incarnation, though he and Morhiaus have a "family" relation if I remember correctly.

Pelinal is really a cyborg from 3000 years in the future in Nirn! It all makes sense now!

Not too far off actually. I think MK said he's more like the Terminator, complete with a laser cannon. It's true! Read the books!