Favorite villains in the series : Fallout Series Discussion

» Tue Apr 20, 2010 1:39 pm

Pretty self-explanatory.

Please share your reasoning and why.

» Tue Apr 20, 2010 3:01 am

The Master. I don't think there needs to be an explanation. I do take offence to the word villain, I am going with antagonist.

Richardson and the Calculator tied for second.

» Tue Apr 20, 2010 10:22 am

Villain is in the eye of the beholder.

I am voting for the Capital Wasteland Enclave despite loving them.

However, I would be tempted to vote "Other" though for Doctor Von Braun. Let's face it, the head of Tranquility Lane is probably the singularly most disturbed individual in the entirety of Fallout.

Given the competition, that's saying something.

Edit:

Another vote would be for VaultTech.

» Tue Apr 20, 2010 2:17 pm

Nah Von Braun wasn't nearly on the same level as the Master. but I guess he wasn't delusional.. the fact you could talk him out of the Unity by showing him the errors in his logic.

.. But I have to agree VaultTech is pretty bad

» Tue Apr 20, 2010 1:46 am

For pure in game combat I went with the MZ aliens. Only the ones in the battle suits though. They dished out damage fast, and took some punishment.

Close second was the tribals of Point Lookout. They would end you fast and sometimes seemed indestructable.

These two groups killed me the most.

I didn t play old fo so I never faced many of these challenges.

» Tue Apr 20, 2010 6:07 pm

NCR, for coruption.
They are just big A-holes..

Second is Presper, but he was sorta with the republic...
Make it multi vote please.

» Tue Apr 20, 2010 5:00 pm

Villain? There are no villains in Fallout.

Take the Master. He did what he did for what he believed was humanity's own good.

» Tue Apr 20, 2010 10:22 am

Villain? There are no villains in Fallout.

Take the Master. He did what he did for what he believed was best for humanity's own good.

I'm not sure that most villains in fiction are as totally unmotivated as to do evil things just for kicks and giggles.

Von Braun, maybe. The Joker, yes.

However, are VaultTech not villains because they were just trying to make a profit from their experiments? (Presumably being paid by the Enclave).

» Tue Apr 20, 2010 1:53 am

Dr Calvert. I love hammy villains.

» Tue Apr 20, 2010 3:32 am

Dr Calvert. I love hammy villains.

I confess, all I could think was the quest was direly lacking an option to say, "Screw you guys. I'm out of here."

» Tue Apr 20, 2010 2:17 am

You forgot the VanGraff family.

I like me some ruthless gangster action.

» Tue Apr 20, 2010 10:06 am

However, are VaultTech not villains because they were just trying to make a profit from their experiments? (Presumably being paid by the Enclave).

Well not really, whilst we know that the Enclave had them built (because surely they designed them for their experiments) there's little chance that outside of key individuals anyone else knew outside of the Enclave; otherwise they would have been killed.

My favourite enemy is the NCR, spent so long hunting those sons-of-[censored]es down, planting C4 under Colonel Moore's Desk :chaos: Get more of a kick out of killing Paladins though, as the common NCR grunts are really just in the wrong place at the wrong time; innocent really oh well :evil:

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» Tue Apr 20, 2010 1:59 pm

Where's Wherner and The Slave Rebellion?

Anyway, guess I'm gonna go Master.

» Tue Apr 20, 2010 9:15 am

Lyons and his little boy scouts. They should be crucified for being traitors to the Brotherhood of Steel.

» Tue Apr 20, 2010 4:13 pm

The Master rocks my socks.

» Tue Apr 20, 2010 1:30 pm

The Omertas, now there's some fine villains.

» Tue Apr 20, 2010 4:45 am

Villain? There are no villains in Fallout.

Take the Master. He did what he did for what he believed was humanity's own good.

So did Hitler............. Anyone who plans on killing mass numbers of innocent people is an evil villain. God, justice, or simple psychic rage are not good excuses to slaughter mass amounts of innocent people.

Just because it sounds good in their heads does not make it ok.

» Tue Apr 20, 2010 1:59 am

So did Hitler............. Anyone who plans on killing mass numbers of innocent people is an evil villain. God, justice, or simple psychic rage are not good excuses to slaughter mass amounts of innocent people.

Just because it sounds good in their heads does not make it ok.

Master didn't plan on killing mass numbers of innocent people.
His plans was to turn as many into super mutants as possible, which while there was a certain mortality rate he still didn't "plan" on killing them.
And then let the rest of the humans that are alive live out their lifes under Unity control but be prohibited from procreation.

But his plans were never to just "murder everyone".

» Tue Apr 20, 2010 8:48 am

So did Hitler............. Anyone who plans on killing mass numbers of innocent people is an evil villain. God, justice, or simple psychic rage are not good excuses to slaughter mass amounts of innocent people.

Just because it sounds good in their heads does not make it ok.

The Master's plan was to turn everybody into Super Mutants as they are better adapted to survive in a post-apocalyptic wasteland.

» Tue Apr 20, 2010 3:53 am

I am gonna go witht he concept of the fiends.
no explaination that has aome long past story of betrayal and redemption, false or otherwise.. just strung out, crazy, animalistic killers.

» Tue Apr 20, 2010 7:33 am

The Master's plan was to turn everybody into Super Mutants as they are better adapted to survive in a post-apocalyptic wasteland.

Except that they arn't that much better seeing as how the the most powerful organisation that we have seen so far, the NCR, was founded by a quarter, at max, of the people from Vault 15; the other 3/4s founding the Khans, Vipers and Jackels. But this is not the place for that discussion.

» Tue Apr 20, 2010 3:03 pm

Except that they arn't that much better seeing as how the the most powerful organisation that we have seen so far, the NCR, was founded by a quarter, at max, of the people from Vault 15; the other 3/4s founding the Khans, Vipers and Jackels. But this is not the place for that discussion.

I never said I agreed or supported anything he did.

» Tue Apr 20, 2010 1:24 pm

I never said I agreed or supported anything he did.

You implied it, and you are a Legion supporter so nothing is certain

You could have liked the Master for whatever reason you like Caesar.

» Tue Apr 20, 2010 2:35 pm

Master.

The voice. The plan. the everything. He was cool.

» Tue Apr 20, 2010 5:35 am

You implied it, and you are a Legion supporter so nothing is certain

You could have liked the Master for whatever reason you like Caesar.

*cough* Enclave *cough* B)