[RELz] FCOM Convergence and UFCOM : IV - Oblivion

» Thu Nov 18, 2010 7:02 am

Hm, I don't even have a "Import Spells" category. I do have an "Import Spell Stats" category, but no mods turn up there so I'm not using it. So someone else has to take that. I'd guess there's no advantage in a pure FCOM setup - otherwise it would be listed in the Quick Guide.

I'd like to know the answer to this one too, as I have the "import spells" in Wrye Bash. The FCOM_Convergence.esp and OOO both show up there.

» Thu Nov 18, 2010 9:21 am

I'd like to know the answer to this one too, as I have the "import spells" in Wrye Bash. The FCOM_Convergence.esp and OOO both show up there.

Yes, I should have added that I'm using Wrye Bash 286, which is slightly different than 285. So that's why I don't have it.

» Thu Nov 18, 2010 3:26 am

If your adding mods to a save game at the sewer exit, Oblivion will react to them as a game in progress.
It's vital if your adding FCOM to your game that you wait out respawn.
Eit the sewers and use coc TestingHall and wait there four game days (default) before commencing tests.
Return to the game world with coc Weye.

Thanks Shikishima. I tried that with my current OOO-only setup, but it didn't fix the problem. I'm hoping I've correctly identified OBSE as the issue and that I'll get it solved in that thread. I'll be sure to follow that advice when I get back to adding mods.

» Thu Nov 18, 2010 3:51 pm

I need some help. I try and start my new game and I crash about 2 seconds after the Bethesda intro starts.

Here is my load order

Spoiler

Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]02  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]03  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB3]04  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.0]05  UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp  [Version 1.0.0]06  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp07  DLCShiveringIsles.esp08  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]09  Living Economy.esp0A  Living Economy - Items.esp0B  DLCHorseArmor.esp0C  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]0D  DLCOrrery.esp0E  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.3]0F  DLCVileLair.esp10  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]11  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp12  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]13  DLCSpellTomes.esp14  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]15  DLCThievesDen.esp16  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]17  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp  [Version 1.0.4]18  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]19  OOO-Water_Weeds.esp  [Version 1.33]1A  OOO-No_Guild_Ownership.esp  [Version 1.33]1B  OMOBS.esp  [Version 1.0]1C  OMOBS_SI.esp  [Version 1.0]1D  Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]1E  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]1F  FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp  [Version 0.9.9beta2]20  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9]21  FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp  [Version 0.9.9]22  Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]23  Mart's Monster Mod - More Passive Wildlife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]24  FCOM_SaferRoads.esp  [Version 0.9.9]25  Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]26  Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Quest Locations.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]27  Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]28  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]29  Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]2A  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3f]2B  Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]2C  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]2D  FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]2E  FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp  [Version 0.9.9]2F  FCOM_Archery.esp  [Version 0.9.9]----> MISSING MASTER: Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm----> MISSING MASTER: Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm30  FCOM_MoreRandomSpawns.esp  [Version 0.9.9]31  FCOM_MoreRandomItems.esp  [Version 0.9.9]32  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]33  OOO-WaterFish.esp  [Version 1.34]34  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp35  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]36  Knights.esp37  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.9]38  Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]39  FCOM_Knights.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]3A  FormID Finder4.esp3B  Streamline 3.1.esp3C  Bashed Patch, 0.esp----> MISSING MASTER: Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm----> MISSING MASTER: Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm

I'm not sure if I did the bash patch right or not. That's the only thing I was confused on since I use OBMM for pretty much everything.
I'm not using Fran's, WarCry since i kept getting a strange message with both.

» Thu Nov 18, 2010 2:49 pm

I've been having a weird CTD while trying to use FCOM for a while now, it happens randomly whenever I drop an item.

The most common time is when I draw a weapon while carrying a torch, and the torch drops to the ground (-> CTD), although I've had cases where I'm dropping armor from my inventory and when I get out of the inventory screen, it CTD's.

My mod-setup isn't very complex, it's just a few additions to the FCOM package, does anyone have any idea what could be causing this?

Here's my load order/mods

Spoiler

Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 0.9.9.5]02  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm03  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm04  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72]05  Harvest[Containers].esm06  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]07  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]08  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB3]09  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.7]0A  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp0B  DLCShiveringIsles.esp0C  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]0D  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp0E  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp0F  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp10  Francesco's Optional Leveled Quests-SI only.esp11  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp++  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]12  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9]13  Fran Armor Add-on.esp14  Fran_Lv30Item_Maltz.esp15  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 0.9.9.5]**  All Natural.esp  [Version 0.9.9.5]**  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 0.9.9.5]++  Item interchange - Extraction.esp  [Version 0.76]++  Harvest[Containers] - SI.esp++  Harvest[Containers] - SI - Ore Respawn.esp16  Enhanced Economy.esp  [Version 4.2.1]17  Landmarks, w Wells.esp  [Version 1.11]18  DLCHorseArmor.esp**  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]19  DLCOrrery.esp**  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.3]1A  DLCVileLair.esp1B  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]1C  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp1D  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]1E  DLCSpellTomes.esp++  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]1F  DLCThievesDen.esp20  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]21  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.72]22  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]23  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp24  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 0.9.9]25  Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp++  FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp  [Version 0.9.9]26  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp27  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB3]28  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]**  OMOBS.esp  [Version 1.0]**  OMOBS_SI.esp  [Version 1.0]**  OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.72]++  FCOM_Cobl.esp  [Version 0.9.9]29  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]2A  FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_SpawnRatesReduced.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]2B  Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life No Gates.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - More Passive Wildlife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  FCOM_SaferRoads.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_LessRats.esp  [Version 0.9.9]2C  Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Less Reavers.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Less Bone Loot.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]2D  Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Quest Locations.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]2E  Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]2F  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]30  Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]31  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3f]++  FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]**  FCOM_Archery.esp  [Version 0.9.9]**  FCOM_FriendlierFactions.esp  [Version 0.9.9]32  FCOM_MoreRandomSpawns.esp  [Version 0.9.9]33  FCOM_MoreRandomItems.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]34  OOO-WaterFish.esp  [Version 1.34]++  MMM-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.69]35  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp36  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]37  DLCfrostcrag.esp38  FrostcragRebornCobl.esp39  Knights.esp3A  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.9]3B  SM Plugin Refurbish(Merged).esp  [Version 1.30]3C  Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  FCOM_Knights.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]++  FCOM_UnofficialFranArmorAddon.esp  [Version 0.9.9]3D  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp  [Version 3.0.0]3E  Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp  [Version 3.0.0]3F  DropLitTorchOBSE.esp  [Version 2.4]++  Higher Thieves' Guild Fence Amounts.esp40  P1DkeyChain.esp  [Version 5.00]++  ScriptIcon_Replacer.esp41  Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp  [Version 3.1.1]42  Enhanced Economy - House prices.esp  [Version 1.0]43  EnchantmentRestore.esp++  EnchantmentRestore_Wells.esp44  BountyReductionOverTime_standard.esp45  RealisticLeveling.esp++  Item interchange - Placement for FCOM.esp  [Version 0.76]++  Item interchange - Placement for Frostcrag Reborn.esp  [Version 0.76]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]46  CuteElf11.esp  [Version 1.3.5]47  Cobl Races.esp  [Version 1.52]**  Cobl Races TNR.esp  [Version 1.53]**  Cobl Races TNR SI.esp  [Version 1.53]++  Cobl Races - Balanced.esp  [Version 1.52]++  [GFX]_Initial_Glow-all.esp**  Enhanced Economy - Soulgems.esp  [Version 4.2.1]++  Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp  [Version 1.53]48  Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp  [Version 01]**  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 0.9.9.5]++  realWaters.esp49  Quest Log Manager.esp  [Version 1.2]++  Thieves Value.esp4A  Bashed Patch, 0.esp4B  FormID Finder4.esp4C  Streamline 3.1.esp

» Thu Nov 18, 2010 10:16 am

I've been having a weird CTD while trying to use FCOM for a while now, it happens randomly whenever I drop an item.

The most common time is when I draw a weapon while carrying a torch, and the torch drops to the ground (-> CTD

I've heard of and experienced the crash upon dropping lit torch. And I've never read a good explanation or good solution.

What you can do is add http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=16282 to your load order and load it after FCOM.

Hope that helps.

gothemasticator

» Thu Nov 18, 2010 3:50 am

2F FCOM_Archery.esp [Version 0.9.9] - Drop that as you're not using Fran's.
----> MISSING MASTER: Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm
----> MISSING MASTER: Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm

3C Bashed Patch, 0.esp - You forgot to rebuild the Bashed Patch after removing Fran's. Rebuild.
----> MISSING MASTER: Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm
----> MISSING MASTER: Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm

Also, what do you mean with this exactly?:

I'm not using Fran's, WarCry since i kept getting a strange message with both.

» Thu Nov 18, 2010 5:20 am

I've been having a weird CTD while trying to use FCOM for a while now, it happens randomly whenever I drop an item.

The most common time is when I draw a weapon while carrying a torch, and the torch drops to the ground (-> CTD), although I've had cases where I'm dropping armor from my inventory and when I get out of the inventory screen, it CTD's.

My mod-setup isn't very complex, it's just a few additions to the FCOM package, does anyone have any idea what could be causing this?

I've heard of and experienced the crash upon dropping lit torch. And I've never read a good explanation or good solution.

What you can do is add http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=16282 to your load order and load it after FCOM.

Hope that helps.

gothemasticator

He's already using it:

3F  DropLitTorchOBSE.esp  [Version 2.4]

Not sure what might cause the crashes. Make sure you're running the latest OBSE and launching the game via the OBSE launcher.

» Thu Nov 18, 2010 4:21 pm

He's already using it:

3F  DropLitTorchOBSE.esp  [Version 2.4]

Doh!

gtm

» Thu Nov 18, 2010 1:22 pm

Also, what do you mean with this exactly?:

With both Fran's and WarCry. When I would activate them a message saying something like file so and so missing couldn't activate mod. But when I looked I saw WarCry.esp in my active list on the left but the file went from green to red instead of blue. I did a reinstall without WarCry since I figured from the pictures that it was just added weapons. But with Fran I've had trouble several times with it so this last time I just figured since it's optional I wouldn't install it.

I'll fix those things and see if it fixes them. With Loth's Blunt Weapons and Bob's Armory if I wanted to add those in the future after I get this running can I load them like I would any other mod or do I need to reload things like described in the steps in the first post. I'm really trying to get OOO and MMM working since those were the two mods that caught my attention when I was first looking for mods.

» Thu Nov 18, 2010 2:38 pm

With both Fran's and WarCry. When I would activate them a message saying something like file so and so missing couldn't activate mod. But when I looked I saw WarCry.esp in my active list on the left but the file went from green to red instead of blue. I did a reinstall without WarCry since I figured from the pictures that it was just added weapons. But with Fran I've had trouble several times with it so this last time I just figured since it's optional I wouldn't install it.

I'll fix those things and see if it fixes them. With Loth's Blunt Weapons and Bob's Armory if I wanted to add those in the future after I get this running can I load them like I would any other mod or do I need to reload things like described in the steps in the first post. I'm really trying to get OOO and MMM working since those were the two mods that caught my attention when I was first looking for mods.

Why not use MMMforOOO then? As for Loth's and Bob's Armory, there is no reason for you to reload everything. You just need to add whichever of those two mods you want and the relevant FCOM plugin, rebuild the Bashed Patch, and you should be fine. They largely modify the leveled list, and that is something that the Bashed Patch takes care of.

Edit: You should not have installed WarCry.esp, just the WarCry EV.esp from the 1.08b patch. What is the error message you were getting with the install of Fran?

» Thu Nov 18, 2010 1:24 pm

With both Fran's and WarCry. When I would activate them a message saying something like file so and so missing couldn't activate mod. But when I looked I saw WarCry.esp in my active list on the left but the file went from green to red instead of blue. I did a reinstall without WarCry since I figured from the pictures that it was just added weapons. But with Fran I've had trouble several times with it so this last time I just figured since it's optional I wouldn't install it.

I'll fix those things and see if it fixes them. With Loth's Blunt Weapons and Bob's Armory if I wanted to add those in the future after I get this running can I load them like I would any other mod or do I need to reload things like described in the steps in the first post. I'm really trying to get OOO and MMM working since those were the two mods that caught my attention when I was first looking for mods.

Still not sure what happened during the install of WarCry and Fran's from your description. Anyway, both are optional - but then you might be fine with MMM for OOO as Tomlong75210 said. It's a very nice combo. That said, nothing wrong with running FCOM with MMM/OOO as you still have access to quite a few nice FCOM optionals etc.

You can add WarCry, Fran's, Loth's, Bob's at any time.

» Thu Nov 18, 2010 11:13 am

Why not use MMMforOOO then? As for Loth's and Bob's Armory, there is no reason for you to reload everything. You just need to add whichever of those two mods you want and the relevant FCOM plugin, rebuild the Bashed Patch, and you should be fine. They largely modify the leveled list, and that is something that the Bashed Patch takes care of.

Edit: You should not have installed WarCry.esp, just the WarCry EV.esp from the 1.08b patch. What is the error message you were getting with the install of Fran?

What do you mean by MMMforOOO? Is that something I missed?

I took care and removed the archery.esp and fixed my bash patch, reran BOSS and didn't see any more errors. Then rebuilt my bash patch. Now I CTD after the character generation screen. I'm getting closer but still having a problem. Is there something I'm missing? I feel like I'm missing a simple step.

» Thu Nov 18, 2010 5:59 pm

What do you mean by MMMforOOO? Is that something I missed?

I took care and removed the archery.esp and fixed my bash patch, reran BOSS and didn't see any more errors. Then rebuilt my bash patch. Now I CTD after the character generation screen. I'm getting closer but still having a problem. Is there something I'm missing? I feel like I'm missing a simple step.

Repost your current load order. MMM comes with an MMM for OOO version, so those can be run together w/o FCOM.

» Thu Nov 18, 2010 6:36 pm

Repost your current load order. MMM comes with an MMM for OOO version, so those can be run together w/o FCOM.

here's my current load order. Only thing added since last time was Loth's and Bob's armory since I had to reinstall FCOM without that archery esp.

Spoiler

Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]02  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]03  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB3]04  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.0]05  UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp  [Version 1.0.0]06  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp07  DLCShiveringIsles.esp08  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]09  Living Economy.esp0A  Living Economy - Items.esp0B  DLCHorseArmor.esp0C  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]0D  DLCOrrery.esp0E  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.3]0F  DLCVileLair.esp10  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]11  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp12  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]13  DLCSpellTomes.esp14  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]15  DLCThievesDen.esp16  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]17  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp  [Version 1.0.4]18  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp19  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 0.9.9]1A  Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp1B  FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp  [Version 0.9.9]1C  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]1D  OOO-Water_Weeds.esp  [Version 1.33]1E  OOO-No_Guild_Ownership.esp  [Version 1.33]1F  OMOBS.esp  [Version 1.0]20  OMOBS_SI.esp  [Version 1.0]21  Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]22  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]23  FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp  [Version 0.9.9beta2]24  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9]25  FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp  [Version 0.9.9]26  Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]27  Mart's Monster Mod - More Passive Wildlife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]28  FCOM_SaferRoads.esp  [Version 0.9.9]29  FCOM_LessRats.esp  [Version 0.9.9]2A  Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]2B  Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Quest Locations.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]2C  Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]2D  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]2E  Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]2F  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3f]30  Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]31  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]32  FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]33  FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]34  FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp  [Version 0.9.9]35  FCOM_MoreRandomItems.esp  [Version 0.9.9]36  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]37  OOO-WaterFish.esp  [Version 1.34]38  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp39  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]3A  Knights.esp3B  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.9]3C  Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]3D  FCOM_Knights.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]3E  Bashed Patch, 0.esp3F  FormID Finder4.esp40  Streamline 3.1.esp

» Thu Nov 18, 2010 6:17 am

I'm getting closer but still having a problem. Is there something I'm missing? I feel like I'm missing a simple step.

here's my current load order. Only thing added since last time was Loth's and Bob's armory since I had to reinstall FCOM without that archery esp.

Is that the BOSS load order? Looks a bit odd to me. Anyway, I can't see anything suspicious in the mod list. Do you have the MMM bsa renamed correctly? A correct full install of OOO?

» Thu Nov 18, 2010 3:57 pm

Is that the BOSS load order? Looks a bit odd to me. Anyway, I can't see anything suspicious in the mod list. Do you have the MMM bsa renamed correctly? A correct full install of OOO?

I was following TomLong's OMOD install guide. I didn't see a step for renaming the MMM bsa. http://tesivpositive.animolious.com/index.php?page=guides_mod_installation&subpage=fcom_installation_guide&step=2&method=o

» Thu Nov 18, 2010 7:28 am

I was following TomLong's OMOD install guide. I didn't see a step for renaming the MMM bsa. http://tesivpositive.animolious.com/index.php?page=guides_mod_installation&subpage=fcom_installation_guide&step=2&method=o

That is because theNiceOne's OMOD installer does that for you.

Edit: Did you not add the MMM BSA to the MMM OMOD?

Edit: 31 Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] <-- This should be Loot OOO

quote from my guide

If you want Diverse Runeskulls, use the OOO Loot version.
>> notes: Diverse Runeksulls does not require Exnem's original mod because those resources are now incorporated into MMM. Use this instead of Exnem's mod and FCOM_ExnemRuneskulls.

» Thu Nov 18, 2010 3:46 pm

I was following TomLong's OMOD install guide. I didn't see a step for renaming the MMM bsa. http://tesivpositive.animolious.com/index.php?page=guides_mod_installation&subpage=fcom_installation_guide&step=2&method=o

Can't comment on that guide as I haven't checked it out. It's quite enough trying to support the "official" FCOM - I can't really keep track on and support other alternative guides as well.

Anyway, I'd double check the MMM and OOO installs. Does it crash immediately after char creation, i.e. does it seem to be an issue during char creation or something with the (prison) cell rather?

» Thu Nov 18, 2010 5:23 pm

That is because theNiceOne's OMOD installer does that for you.

Edit: Did you not add the MMM BSA to the MMM OMOD?

redoing installing with OBMM and I'm at the part where it asks about the MMM.bsa Do I choose the FCOM_Convergence_MartsMonsterMod.bsa option?

» Thu Nov 18, 2010 1:42 pm

Yes. I have not used the OMOD installer, but choosing the option with FCOM in it should usually be the best choice if installing FCOM.

Edit: I am surprised that is not automated... I can add a note about it to the guide.

» Thu Nov 18, 2010 2:58 pm

Can't comment on that guide as I haven't checked it out. It's quite enough trying to support the "official" FCOM - I can't really keep track on and support other alternative guides as well.

Anyway, I'd double check the MMM and OOO installs. Does it crash immediately after char creation, i.e. does it seem to be an issue during char creation or something with the (prison) cell rather?

my guess is the prison cell. Because I can create a character and then when it gives you control of your character in first person view the game crashes

» Thu Nov 18, 2010 10:36 pm

redoing installing with OBMM and I'm at the part where it asks about the MMM.bsa Do I choose the FCOM_Convergence_MartsMonsterMod.bsa option?

Yes

" Did you not read the first page of this thread"

under MMM 3.7b3 and UFCOM - if you read very closely states that has well.

You must have the MMM 3.7b3 BSA installed and rename it FCOM_Convergence_MartsMonsterMod.bsa in order for meshes, textures and sounds to work with FCOM properly.

» Thu Nov 18, 2010 1:10 pm

my guess is the prison cell. Because I can create a character and then when it gives you control of your character in first person view the game crashes

Have you successfully reinstalled MMM now? Both of your Fran and MMM BSAs are renamed?

Edit: Have you relaunched the game since fixing the problem with the MMM BSA?

» Thu Nov 18, 2010 9:32 pm

Have you successfully reinstalled MMM now? Both of your Fran and MMM BSAs are renamed?

Edit: Have you relaunched the game since fixing the problem with the MMM BSA?

LOL you guys are gonna hate me after this is all done i bet, If you don't all ready.

I'm not using Fran but in my Oblivion ini I see something that says FCOM_Convergence_FraNewItems.bsa but I don't see one that says FCOM_Convergence_MartsMonsterMod.bsa

Do I need to do something in there? or was the OMOD supposed to add a bsa in there?