[RELz] FCOM Convergence and UFCOM : IV - Oblivion

» Wed Nov 17, 2010 4:05 pm

Got a FCOM-related persistent crash :/

Llvl 43 char, 92hr game, ~24mb game file size.

Location: small brdige east of Shadow's Rest Cavern, ShadowsRestCavernExterion -11 29

As soon as i move N and change cell to Wilderness -11 30 - the game crashes. Same with weOCPS enabled.

Disabled all mods, then tried enabling them 1 by 1 and checking. FCOM_Convergence.esp is causing crash.

Tried waitng at the spot for 24 hours then moving - same result.

Cell respawn time - 1 months. The location i was moving into is unvisited yet.

What can be done to fix it?

Load order:

Spoiler

Mods:00  Oblivion.esm01  underdark.esm02  GTAesgaard_2.esm03  Cybiades.esm  [ver 2.0]04  Windfall.esm05  TR_OoT_Main.esm06  Jog_X_Mod.esm07  All Natural Base.esm  [ver 0.9.9.5]08  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm09  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm0A  MD_Saddle_Master.esm0B  Cobl Main.esm  [ver 1.72]0C  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [ver 1.34]0D  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [ver 3.7b3p3]0E  Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esm0F  CyrodiilUpgradeResourcePack.esm10  TamrielTravellers.esm  [ver 1.39c]11  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [ver 0.9.9MB3]12  Armamentarium.esm  [ver 1.35]13  Artifacts.esm  [ver 1.1]14  Kvatch Rebuilt.esm15  Better Cities Resources.esm16  CM Partners.esm17  HorseCombatMaster.esm18  TRoN.esp**  TRoN Vwalk.esp19  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [ver 3.2.0]1A  DLCShiveringIsles.esp1B  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [ver 1.4.0]**  Oblivion Vwalk UOS.esp**  DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk UOS.esp**  DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk DG_DS UOS.esp1C  Better Cities .esp1D  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp1E  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp1F  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp20  Francesco's Optional Leveled Quests-SI only.esp21  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp++  Francesco's Dark Seducer Weapons Patch.esp++  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [ver 0.9.9]++  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [ver 0.9.9]22  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [ver 0.9.9]23  Fran Armor Add-on.esp24  Fran_Lv30Item_Maltz.esp**  LoadingScreens.esp25  Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp26  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [ver 0.9.9.5]27  All Natural.esp  [ver 0.9.9.5]28  All Natural - SI.esp  [ver 0.9.9.5]++  phinix-waterfix.esp++  Symphony of Violence.esp29  Storms & Sound.esp2A  Sound Plugins + WLS.esp2B  kuerteeAutoSaveAndTime.esp**  Book Jackets Oblivion.esp2C  ClocksOfCyrodiil_BC_OBC_OC_OCLR_Vanilla.esp++  Dancer_Undress0_6-10194.esp++  Item interchange - Extraction.esp  [ver 0.78]2D  personality_idles4_nopc.esp2E  Q - More and Moldy Ingredients v1.1.esp2F  Assorted Little Mods 1.esp30  Enhanced Economy.esp  [ver 4.1.1]31  Crowded Roads.esp  [ver 2.0]**  Crowded Roads Vwalk.esp32  FF_Real_Thirst.esp33  kuerteeIgnoringTheMainQuestHasConsequences.esp34  Map Marker Overhaul.esp  [ver 3.5.1]35  Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp  [ver 3.5]36  DLCHorseArmor.esp37  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [ver 1.0.5]38  DLCOrrery.esp39  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [ver 1.0.3]**  DLCOrrery Vwalk.esp3A  DLCVileLair.esp3B  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [ver 1.0.5]3C  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp3D  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [ver 1.0.4]**  DLCMehrunesRazor Vwalk UOP.esp3E  DLCSpellTomes.esp++  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [ver 1.0.1]**  Book Jackets DLC.esp**  GrimbotsSpellTomes.esp**  MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp3F  Growlf Clothes + Thieves Arsenal.esp40  XiaNewAmuletsV1.esp**  Armamentium female.esp41  kuerteeHorseCommands.esp42  Horse Plugins.esp43  DLCThievesDen.esp44  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [ver 1.0.5]**  DLCThievesDen Vwalk UOP.esp45  KDCircletsOOOOptimized - NPC Equip.esp  [ver 1.2]++  FCOM_KDCircletsOOOOptimizedNPCEquip.esp  [ver 0.9.9]46  Slof's Oblivion Robe Trader.esp47  Cobl Glue.esp  [ver 1.72]48  Cobl Si.esp  [ver 1.63]49  FF_Real_Thirst, Cobl.esp4A  OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp  [ver 1.72]++  FCOM_Cobl.esp  [ver 0.9.9]4B  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp4C  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [ver 0.9.9]4D  Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp++  FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp  [ver 0.9.9]4E  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp4F  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [ver 0.9.9MB3]50  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [ver 1.34]++  OOO-Water_Weeds.esp  [ver 1.33]++  OOO_XiaNewAmulets Addon.esp  [ver 0.5]**  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul Vwalk.esp**  OMOBS.esp  [ver 1.0]**  OMOBS_SI.esp  [ver 1.0]++  ArmamentariumLLVendors.esp  [ver 1.35]51  ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp  [ver 1.35]52  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [ver 0.9.9Mb3]53  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [ver 0.9.9]54  Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp  [ver 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp  [ver 3.7b3p3]55  Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp  [ver 3.7b3p3]56  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp  [ver 3.7b3p3]57  Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp  [ver 3.7b3p3]58  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [ver 3.7b3p3f]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp  [ver 3.7b3p3]++  TamrielTravellerAdvscript.esp  [ver 1.39c]59  TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp  [ver 1.39c]**  TamrielTravellers4OOO Vwalk.esp5A  TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp  [ver 1.39c]5B  ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp  [ver 1.39c]**  ShiveringIsleTravellers Vwalk.esp++  FCOM_TamrielTravelers.esp  [ver 0.9.9]++  FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp  [ver 0.9.9]++  FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp  [ver 0.9.9]++  FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp  [ver 0.9.9]**  FCOM_Archery.esp  [ver 0.9.9]5C  TIE In.esp  [ver 1.2b]++  TIE In - Cobl.esp  [ver 1.2b]5D  TIE In - FCOM Convergence.esp  [ver 1.2b]++  TIE In - RealSwords.esp  [ver 1.2b]++  TIE In - MMM Craft.esp  [ver 1.2b]++  TIE In - DiverseGuardUnity.esp  [ver 1.2b]++  TIE In - BobsGuardUnity.esp  [ver 1.2b]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [ver 3.7b3p3]++  ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp  [ver 2.01]++  ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp  [ver 1.35]++  PersuasionOverhaul_OOO.esp  [ver 1.2]++  PersuasionOverhaul_MMM.esp  [ver 1.2]**  Fransfemale.esp5E  zCats & Rats.esp++  MMM-Cobl.esp  [ver 1.69]**  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4FCOM.esp5F  Lock Bash Omega.esp  [ver 1.5]60  TamrielTransportationNetwork.esp**  TamrielTransportationNetwork Vwalk.esp61  Ivellon.esp  [ver 1.8]62  AdenseEpicDungeon.esp63  Artifacts.esp  [ver 1.1]**  ArtifactsFemaleArmor.esp++  Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp  [ver 1.0]64  BHC_Expanded.esp  [ver 1.2]65  (DC) Sutch Reborn.esp++  (DC) Sutch Reborn Vwalk.esp66  Sutch Reborn Spawn Patch.esp67  eyja.esp**  eyja Vwalk.esp68  GTAesgaard.esp69  GTAesgaard_2.esp6A  JQ-AssassinQuest.esp6B  Kragenir's Death Quest.esp**  Kragenir's Death Quest Vwalk.esp6C  KDQ - Rural Line Additions.esp6D  Kvatch Rebuilt.esp++  Kvatch Rebuilt - OOO Compatibility.esp6E  Kvatch Rebuilt - Leveled Guards - FCOM.esp6F  Kvatch Rebuilt Weather Patch.esp**  Kvatch Rebuilt Vwalk.esp70  EiAmod.esp  [ver 1.1]++  EiAmod_ShiveringIsles.esp**  EiAmod Vwalk.esp71  LetThePeopleDrink.esp  [ver 2.5]72  KragenirsDeathQuest-LetThePeopleDrink patch.esp73  LordKain_Adash_World.esp**  LordKain_Adash_World Vwalk.esp74  Malevolent.esp**  Malevolent Vwalk.esp75  Naughty_Joana_01.esp76  Scribe Supplies.esp77  The Ayleid Steps.esp  [ver 3.3.2]**  The Ayleid Steps Vwalk.esp78  TheElderCouncil.esp79  thievery.esp7A  TR_Stirk.esp**  TR_Stirk Vwalk.esp7B  VaultsofCyrodiilBC.esp7C  VHBloodlines 1.2.esp  [ver 1.4]++  VHBloodlines 1.2 Vwalk.esp7D  Windfall.esp**  Windfall Vwalk.esp7E  za_bankmod.esp7F  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp80  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp  [ver 1.0.4]81  DLCfrostcrag.esp82  Kvatch Rebuilt_Frostcrag Reborn + FrostcragRebornCobl.esp**  DLCFrostcrag Vwalk.esp83  Knights.esp84  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [ver 1.0.9]**  Knights Vwalk UOP.esp**  EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp85  SM Plugin Refurbish(Merged).esp  [ver 1.30]++  TIE In - Knights.esp  [ver 1.2b]86  Cybiades.esp  [ver 2.1]87  CybiadesDungeon.esp  [ver 2.1]++  cybCrashFix.esp**  Cybiades Vwalk.esp88  TOTF.esp**  TOTF Vwalk.esp89  TOTF-EiAE Patch.esp8A  RTT.esp**  RTT Vwalk.esp8B  The Lost Spires.esp**  The Lost Spires Vwalk.esp8C  Mighty Umbra.esp8D  Blood&Mud.esp**  Blood&Mud Vwalk.esp8E  Lost Paladins of the Divines.esp8F  Origin of the Mages Guild.esp  [ver 5.1]90  MannimarcoRevisited.esp91  MannimarcoRevisitedOOO.esp  [ver 0.1]++  FCOM_MightyUmbra.esp  [ver 0.9.9]92  FCOM_Blood&Mud.esp  [ver 0.9.9]++  FCOM_Knights.esp  [ver 0.9.9Mb3]++  FCOM_SlofsRobeTrader.esp  [ver 0.9.9]93  FCOM_OMG.esp  [ver 0.9.9]++  FCOM_OMGSRT.esp  [ver 0.9.9]94  Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esp++  FCOM_EnhancedDaedricInvasion.esp  [ver 0.9.9]95  ElsweyrAnequina.esp++  ElsweyrAnequina - Races HGEC-Robert.esp**  ElsweyrAnequina Vwalk.esp96  road+bridges.esp  [ver 4.5.5]97  HeartOftheDead.esp  [ver 6.0.1]**  HeartOftheDead Vwalk.esp++  HOD_delayer.esp98  xuldarkforest.esp  [ver 1.0.4]99  xulStendarrValley.esp  [ver 1.2.2]9A  xulTheHeath.esp9B  UL Patches 1.esp9C  XulEntiusGorge.esp9D  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [ver 1.3.1]9E  Fallenleaf Everglade Patches Merged.esp9F  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp  [ver 1.2.1]A0  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [ver 1.2.2]**  xulChorrolHinterland Vwalk.espA1  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [ver 1.6.4]A2  Sutch Reborn Patches.espA3  OOO-UL-Sutch patch.espA4  KragenirsDeathQuest-LostCoast patch.espA5  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [ver 1.3.2]**  xulBravilBarrowfields Vwalk.espA6  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [ver 1.3]A7  xulAncientYews.esp  [ver 1.4.2]A8  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [ver 1.6]A9  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [ver 1.0.3]AA  KragenirsDeathQuest-CloudtopMountains patch.espAB  xulArriusCreek.esp  [ver 1.1.3]AC  xulPatch_AY_AC.esp  [ver 1.1]AD  HeartoftheDead-ArriusCreek patch.espAE  xulRollingHills_EV.esp  [ver 1.3.2]**  xulRollingHills_EV Vwalk.espAF  KragenirsDeathQuest-RollingHills patch.espB0  xulPantherRiver.espB1  MMMMWL-Rolling Hills + BM-PantherRiver.espB2  xulRiverEthe.esp  [ver 1.0.2]B3  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [ver 1.0.2]**  xulBrenaRiverRavine Vwalk.espB4  NakedNord.espB5  xulImperialIsle.esp  [ver 1.6.3]**  xulImperialIsle Vwalk.espB6  xulBlackwoodForest.espB7  xulCheydinhalFalls.esp  [ver 1.0.1]B8  Cheydinhal Falls Patches Merged.espB9  DungeonsOfIvellon-CheydinhalFalls patch.espBA  xulAspenWood.esp  [ver 1.0.1]**  xulAspenWood Vwalk.espBB  xulSkingradOutskirts.esp**  xulSkingradOutskirts Vwalk.espBC  NRB4+UL-II+LtPD Patch.esp  [ver 3.0.1]BD  EtInArkay-UniqueLandscapes Merged patch.espBE  bartholm.espBF  Bartholm-Panther River Patch + EE patches.esp  [ver 1.0]**  bartholm Vwalk.espC0  JQ-Fighters_Guild_United.esp++  FCOM_FighterGUnited.esp++  FCOM_UnofficialFranArmorAddon.esp  [ver 0.9.9]C1  NPC new clothes V2.6.esp++  FCOM_NewNPCClothes.espC2  Harvest [Flora].esp  [ver 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [ver 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp  [ver 3.0.0]C3  Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp  [ver 3.0.0]C4  Cliff_BetterLetters.esp  [ver 1.1]C5  DD_JailShackles.espC6  DropLitTorchOBSE.esp  [ver 2.4]C7  Actors Have Torches.espC8  P1DkeyChain.esp  [ver 5.00]C9  PersuasionOverhaul.esp  [ver 1.43]CA  kuerteeGoldIsAnInventoryItem.espCB  Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp  [ver 3.08]CC  Storms & Sound Patches.espCD  Quest Award Leveling SI.espCE  Quest Award Leveller.esp++  Quest Award Leveller - Battlehorn Castle.esp++  Quest Award Leveller - Vile Lair.esp++  Quest Award Leveller - Mehrunes Razor.esp++  Quest Award Leveller - Knights of the Nine.esp++  TIE In - Salmo, Cobl.esp  [ver 1.2b]++  TIE In - VHBloodlines 1.2.esp++  TIE In - Malevolent.esp++  TIE In - TOTF.esp++  TIE In - B&M.esp  [ver 1.2b]++  TIE In - MannimarcoRevisited.esp  [ver 1.2b]++  TIE In - Kvatch Rebuilt.esp  [ver 1.2b]++  TIE In - DLCOrrery.esp  [ver 1.2b]++  TIE In - DLCThievesDen.esp  [ver 1.2b]++  TIE In - BC-Anvil.esp  [ver 1.2b]CF  RealisticFatigue.espD0  RealisticHealth.espD1  RealSleepExtended.esp  [ver 2.3.4]D2  Duke Patricks - Nosferatu Class Vampires.espD3  Telekinetic Mastery.esp  [ver 2]D4  SupremeMagicka.esp  [ver 0.89]D5  SM_ShiveringIsles.esp  [ver 0.86]++  SM_DLCSpellTome.esp  [ver 0.80]++  SM_OOO.esp  [ver 0.89]++  SM_MMM.esp  [ver 0.89]++  SM_COBL.esp  [ver 0.86]++  SM_Scrolls.esp  [ver 0.84]D6  MidasSpells.espD7  AudaciousMagery.espD8  Pestilent Afflictions.espD9  StealthOverhaul.espDA  ZumbsLockpickingMod - OBSE.espDB  Enhanced Grabbing.esp  [ver 0.5]DC  Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed Block with no damage or durability changes.espDD  DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp++  SM_DeadlyReflex.esp  [ver 0.86]DE  Deadly Reflex Bow Sway.espDF  Duke Patricks - Near Miss Magic And Arrows Alert The Target.espE0  Duke Patricks - Fresh Kills Now Alert The NPCs.espE1  RealisticLeveling.espE2  immersive_caves_manual.esp**  Let There Be Darkness - Cyrodiil + SI.esp**  Let There Be Darkness - Knights.esp**  Let There Be Darkness - Mehrunes Razor.esp++  Item interchange - Placement for FCOM.esp  [ver 0.78]++  Item interchange - Placement for Frostcrag Reborn.esp  [ver 0.78]++  Item interchange - Option, Ingredients in Bulk.esp  [ver 0.78]**  ScriptEffectIconReplace.espE3  Saerileth.espE4  sixycompanion.espE5  Sonia.esp**  Sonia Vwalk.espE6  bgBalancingEVCore.esp  [ver 10.52EV-D]E7  bgMagicEV.esp  [ver 1.7EV]**  bgMagicEV Vwalk.esp++  bgMagicSpellTomes_for_WryeBash.esp  [ver 1.68EV]++  bgMagicItemSigil.esp  [ver 1.68EV]E8  bgMagicBonus.esp  [ver 1.7EV]++  bgMagicEVAddEnVar.esp  [ver 1.68EV]E9  bgMagicEVPaperChase.esp  [ver 1.68EV]++  bgBalancingEVOptionalFangs.esp  [ver 10.0EV-D]++  bgBalancingEVOptionalMoreEyes.esp  [ver 10]**  bgBalancingEVOptionalNPCDiversity, Vanilla.esp  [ver 10.0EV-D]**  bgBalancingEVOptionalFCOMAdditions.esp  [ver 10.]**  bgBalancingOptionalNPCDiversityKvatchRebuilt, for Wrye Bash.esp  [ver 9.0EV-D]EA  bgBalancingEVLAMEAddition.esp  [ver 10.51EV-D]++  bgBalancingEVLAMEGlue.esp  [ver 10.0EV-D1.62EV]**  bgBalancingEVOptionalNPCDiversityLAME.esp  [ver 10.5EV-D]EB  bgIntegrationEV.esp  [ver 0.993]**  bgIntegrationEV Vwalk.espEC  Better Cities - Full City Defences.espED  Better Cities Full - B&M Edition.esp**  Better Cities Full - B&M Edition Vwalk.espEE  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.espEF  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.espF0  Better Cities - Tears of the Fiend.esp**  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp**  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.espF1  BC - UL Cheydinhal Falls and Skingrad Outskirts.espF2  Better Cities Quest Patches Merged.espF3  Better Imperial City.esp**  Better Imperial City Vwalk.espF4  Better Cities - COBL.esp  [ver 2]F5  GMST+GetWet.esp  [ver 0.9.9]**  bgMagicEVShader.esp  [ver 1.7EV]++  bgMagicShaderLifeDetect.esp  [ver 1.68]**  Real Lava 1.3.espF6  Real Hunger, Cobl.esp  [ver 1.6.1]F7  StokerWolff.espF8  Viconia.esp**  Viconia Vwalk.esp++  Viconia_delayer.esp**  NRB4 Standard Road Record.esp++  Bashed Delayers E - MERGE ONLY.esp  [ver 1.08]++  Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp  [ver 1.53]**  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [ver 0.9.9.5]F9  Bashed Patch, 0.espFA  kuerteeCleanUp.espFB  Streamline 3.1.esp

» Wed Nov 17, 2010 3:59 pm

Got a FCOM-related persistent crash :/

Llvl 43 char, 92hr game, ~24mb game file size.

Location: small brdige east of Shadow's Rest Cavern, ShadowsRestCavernExterion -11 29

As soon as i move N and change cell to Wilderness -11 30 - the game crashes. Same with weOCPS enabled.

Disabled all mods, then tried enabling them 1 by 1 and checking. FCOM_Convergence.esp is causing crash.

Tried waitng at the spot for 24 hours then moving - same result.

Cell respawn time - 1 months. The location i was moving into is unvisited yet.

What can be done to fix it?

Load order:

Spoiler

Mods:00  Oblivion.esm01  underdark.esm02  GTAesgaard_2.esm03  Cybiades.esm  [ver 2.0]04  Windfall.esm05  TR_OoT_Main.esm06  Jog_X_Mod.esm07  All Natural Base.esm  [ver 0.9.9.5]08  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm09  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm0A  MD_Saddle_Master.esm0B  Cobl Main.esm  [ver 1.72]0C  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [ver 1.34]0D  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [ver 3.7b3p3]0E  Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esm0F  CyrodiilUpgradeResourcePack.esm10  TamrielTravellers.esm  [ver 1.39c]11  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [ver 0.9.9MB3]12  Armamentarium.esm  [ver 1.35]13  Artifacts.esm  [ver 1.1]14  Kvatch Rebuilt.esm15  Better Cities Resources.esm16  CM Partners.esm17  HorseCombatMaster.esm18  TRoN.esp**  TRoN Vwalk.esp19  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [ver 3.2.0]1A  DLCShiveringIsles.esp1B  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [ver 1.4.0]**  Oblivion Vwalk UOS.esp**  DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk UOS.esp**  DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk DG_DS UOS.esp1C  Better Cities .esp1D  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp1E  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp1F  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp20  Francesco's Optional Leveled Quests-SI only.esp21  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp++  Francesco's Dark Seducer Weapons Patch.esp++  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [ver 0.9.9]++  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [ver 0.9.9]22  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [ver 0.9.9]23  Fran Armor Add-on.esp24  Fran_Lv30Item_Maltz.esp**  LoadingScreens.esp25  Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp26  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [ver 0.9.9.5]27  All Natural.esp  [ver 0.9.9.5]28  All Natural - SI.esp  [ver 0.9.9.5]++  phinix-waterfix.esp++  Symphony of Violence.esp29  Storms & Sound.esp2A  Sound Plugins + WLS.esp2B  kuerteeAutoSaveAndTime.esp**  Book Jackets Oblivion.esp2C  ClocksOfCyrodiil_BC_OBC_OC_OCLR_Vanilla.esp++  Dancer_Undress0_6-10194.esp++  Item interchange - Extraction.esp  [ver 0.78]2D  personality_idles4_nopc.esp2E  Q - More and Moldy Ingredients v1.1.esp2F  Assorted Little Mods 1.esp30  Enhanced Economy.esp  [ver 4.1.1]31  Crowded Roads.esp  [ver 2.0]**  Crowded Roads Vwalk.esp32  FF_Real_Thirst.esp33  kuerteeIgnoringTheMainQuestHasConsequences.esp34  Map Marker Overhaul.esp  [ver 3.5.1]35  Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp  [ver 3.5]36  DLCHorseArmor.esp37  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [ver 1.0.5]38  DLCOrrery.esp39  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [ver 1.0.3]**  DLCOrrery Vwalk.esp3A  DLCVileLair.esp3B  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [ver 1.0.5]3C  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp3D  DLCMehrunesRazor - 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I'm no expert on this but FCOM_Convergence.esp doesn't affect any cells directly so a crash caused by it shouldn't be place specific AFAIK. Which seems to indicate a bad spawn perhaps. Have you tried waiting for a respawn and then change the same cell?

Also, even if you seem to have pinpointed the issue to FCOM_Convergence.esp, make sure you have Oblivion WarCry EV.esp patched to 1.085b. Having it unpatched causes the only CTDs caused by spawns that I know of with FCOM.

» Wed Nov 17, 2010 6:02 pm

I'm no expert on this but FCOM_Convergence.esp doesn't affect any cells directly so a crash caused by it shouldn't be place specific AFAIK. Which seems to indicate a bad spawn perhaps. Have you tried waiting for a respawn and then change the same cell?

Also, even if you seem to have pinpointed the issue to FCOM_Convergence.esp, make sure you have Oblivion WarCry EV.esp patched to 1.085b. Having it unpatched causes the only CTDs caused by spawns that I know of with FCOM.

Solved by reloading earlier cell.

All is patched correctly btw.

» Wed Nov 17, 2010 3:31 pm

Solved by reloading earlier cell.

All is patched correctly btw.

You know, I have never taken a char over Lvl 40 and the higher the level the less players (read: testers) I'd guess, so if there are some bad spawns lingering in FCOM I'd suspect that they would pop up on higher levels.

Also, personally I'm a bit suspicious when it comes to long spawn times. It's known that really long spawn times can mess up the game. I don't think 1 month would cause such problems but there will be much more info needed to store in the save. Also, it makes it a chore to update certain mods and trouble shoot stuff that might be connected to spawns.

» Wed Nov 17, 2010 9:59 am

I do occasionally get that with my higher-level characters. It is very hard to pinpoint why, since it happens so randomly ... I am almost leaning toward a particular creature/ingredient set, since the next time I load the cell the spawn point invariably works fine. But I've no idea what it is, since I never get to see it. :nuke:

» Wed Nov 17, 2010 11:17 am

Location: small brdige east of Shadow's Rest Cavern, ShadowsRestCavernExterion -11 29

As soon as i move N and change cell to Wilderness -11 30 - the game crashes. Same with weOCPS enabled.

Thanks will check the spawn points and see what is spawing around those locations..

You did disable everything but OOO/MMM/FCOM/BgBalancingEVCore.esp and rebuilt patch and tested it that way to make sure..

» Wed Nov 17, 2010 9:13 pm

So who's gonna take over development of FCOM? I said I wouldn't mention this again, but I don't think dev is coming back. I know he had a kid. I have two brothers, both with young kids (2, 6, and 9 months), so I know how time consuming it is. But it's been over a year now with no new progress (I don't think).

» Wed Nov 17, 2010 4:03 pm

So who's gonna take over development of FCOM? I said I wouldn't mention this again, but I don't think dev is coming back. I know he had a kid. I have two brothers, both with young kids (2, 6, and 9 months), so I know how time consuming it is. But it's been over a year now with no new progress (I don't think).

Where have you been? Corepc and the rest of the team continue FCOM work all the time. The uFCOM update, new MMM version, conversion of various FCOM components to BSAs, now Fran's getting looked at for repackaging and updating... The list goes on.

gothemasticator

» Wed Nov 17, 2010 2:08 pm

So who's gonna take over development of FCOM? I said I wouldn't mention this again, but I don't think dev is coming back. I know he had a kid. I have two brothers, both with young kids (2, 6, and 9 months), so I know how time consuming it is. But it's been over a year now with no new progress (I don't think).

As it is, Corepc is heading the development of UFCOM. Basically, FCOM 0.9.9.5 as outlined by dev_akm in the opening post is on hold. The plan is to release updates of OOO, MMM and UFCOM - plus also bsa versions of the FCOM mods, making installs easier. But the goal of UFCOM as it stands is to optimize the integration with the updates of MMM and OOO - and also tweaks, bug fixing. That is, we're not working on the Dremora overhaul etc. as it is. When all that is done I guess we'll have to go from there.

» Thu Nov 18, 2010 1:21 am

Oh, well I did notice the BSA's (I have them). But UFCOM is just FCOM updated for MMM. Not really an incremental release. But if CorePC is updating FCOM according to the 0.9.9.5 release notes then we're in business. I'm glad to hear it. OOO needs a new release too.

» Wed Nov 17, 2010 5:55 pm

Oh, well I did notice the BSA's (I have them). But UFCOM is just FCOM updated for MMM. Not really an incremental release. But if CorePC is updating FCOM according to the 0.9.9.5 release notes then we're in business. I'm glad to hear it. OOO needs a new release too.

I thought I just said that the upcoming UFCOM update is not FCOM 0.9.9.5 and that we're not working on, say, the Dremora overhaul that is mentioned in its release notes. The UFCOM update will focus on integration, tweaks, fixes as said. Oh well, English is not my first language.

» Wed Nov 17, 2010 6:24 pm

So I installed this mod setup for the first time after recently reinstalling Oblivion. Well I should say 3rd time, since I kept screwing things up the first 2 times.

Anyway, things have been running fairly smoothly except for these visually incorrect mobs I've run into in/around Oblivion gates. Astral Fire is the name I recall for these mobs, however I had spotted another (same model different name) one but crashed before I could get the name. After doing some searching I have found exactly 1 thread (from March) that mentions this exact issue. Sadly there was no "fix" in regards to it in the thread, but someone did mention posting in the FCOM thread, so here I am.

I am going to reuse his picture as its the same issue. (Ignore the item icon for now, as I have not yet come across that error yet)

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a162/jaw7099/proof.jpg

Needless to say, popping into a Sigil tower and having that dab smack in my face is just slightly distracting.

Having an item with Night Eye enchantment will seemingly hide the distorted graphics as well.. which has helped somewhat.

» Wed Nov 17, 2010 11:35 am

I thought I just said that the upcoming UFCOM update is not FCOM 0.9.9.5 and that we're not working on, say, the Dremora overhaul that is mentioned in its release notes. The UFCOM update will focus on integration, tweaks, fixes as said. Oh well, English is not my first language.

Oh, my fault. I misread the post. Sorry. Well, 0.9.9.5 should be worked on, IMHO.

» Thu Nov 18, 2010 12:07 am

OOO needs a new release too.

Why? Is something missing from Oscuro's original content or broken?
As for FCOM 9.9.5, you've never had it, so why are you missing it?
If you'd care to revise what's been released in the last 12 months are you seriously telling me there's been nothing done to improve FCOM?

» Thu Nov 18, 2010 12:14 am

So I installed this mod setup for the first time after recently reinstalling Oblivion. Well I should say 3rd time, since I kept screwing things up the first 2 times.

Anyway, things have been running fairly smoothly except for these visually incorrect mobs I've run into in/around Oblivion gates. Astral Fire is the name I recall for these mobs, however I had spotted another (same model different name) one but crashed before I could get the name. After doing some searching I have found exactly 1 thread (from March) that mentions this exact issue. Sadly there was no "fix" in regards to it in the thread, but someone did mention posting in the FCOM thread, so here I am.

I am going to reuse his picture as its the same issue. (Ignore the item icon for now, as I have not yet come across that error yet)

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a162/jaw7099/proof.jpg

Needless to say, popping into a Sigil tower and having that dab smack in my face is just slightly distracting.

Having an item with Night Eye enchantment will seemingly hide the distorted graphics as well.. which has helped somewhat.

Astral Fires are from WarCry. Is it patched to 1.085b? Are you using the test bsa or are you using a standard install of it? Are you using large, medium or small textures?

EDIT: Hm, I thought it might be missing mipmaps which can cause weirdness if using medium/small textures, but all the relevant textures seem to be mipmapped.

» Wed Nov 17, 2010 9:50 pm

Why? Is something missing from Oscuro's original content or broken?
As for FCOM 9.9.5, you've never had it, so why are you missing it?
If you'd care to revise what's been released in the last 12 months are you seriously telling me there's been nothing done to improve FCOM?

No, nothing is missing or broken. It's just been quite a while since the last release. It would be nice to play that new quest. I've played 1.34 B5 trough twice.

I'm just saying some new content from FCOM would be nice. I never said there's nothing being done to improve it. It doesn't look like dev will be back anytime soon. Would be nice to have someone pick up where he left off. I'm patient enough, but maybe it's time someone else worked on the new release of both OOO and FCOM.

» Wed Nov 17, 2010 6:30 pm

I just had a look at this thread for interest. You have no idea how long I thought the 'C' in FCOM standed for Cobl. Oops. But why isn't it FWOM?

» Thu Nov 18, 2010 12:08 am

I just had a look at this thread for interest. You have no idea how long I thought the 'C' in FCOM standed for Cobl. Oops. But why isn't it FWOM?

Used to be FranOOOMMM. Or something like that. I don't know why it's FCOM and not FWOM. Maybe because FCOM sounds cooler.

» Wed Nov 17, 2010 11:38 pm

Astral Fires are from WarCry. Is it patched to 1.085b? Are you using the test bsa or are you using a standard install of it? Are you using large, medium or small textures?

EDIT: Hm, I thought it might be missing mipmaps which can cause weirdness if using medium/small textures, but all the relevant textures seem to be mipmapped.

Warcry is patched. I am not using test BSAs, only the ones that came with MMM and Frans. (MMM is renamed to load under FCOM_Convergence) Not sure on the large/medium/small textures part. Is that a mod setting or a default game setting? {edit: If it is a game setting, I am using Medium}

Is there any type of lighting effect on that model that might be removed when one has Night Eye? Because like I said above, the issue goes away as near as I can tell with Night Eye up. I'm thinking it might be some type of issue with a graphics setting I have.

» Thu Nov 18, 2010 2:50 am

Warcry is patched. I am not using test BSAs, only the ones that came with MMM and Frans. (MMM is renamed to load under FCOM_Convergence) Not sure on the large/medium/small textures part. Is that a mod setting or a default game setting? {edit: If it is a game setting, I am using Medium}

Is there any type of lighting effect on that model that might be removed when one has Night Eye? Because like I said above, the issue goes away as near as I can tell with Night Eye up. I'm thinking it might be some type of issue with a graphics setting I have.

Thanks. Yes, I meant the game setting for textures. They worked fine for me pre-bsa and I just spawned one using the bsa - and it looked as it should as well. My guess would be that it doesn't show up properly with medium/small textures for some reason, but it's beyond my abilities to check what might cause that. As said, the textures seem to be properly mipmapped - and, well, that is how far my knowledge of this goes. We'll have to wait for showler or Corepc for some insight I'd guess.

» Wed Nov 17, 2010 6:41 pm

Do you have Life Sense active?

» Thu Nov 18, 2010 1:44 am

I only asked, since ive seen other huge mods suddenly stop development.

» Wed Nov 17, 2010 4:12 pm

Thanks. Yes, I meant the game setting for textures. They worked fine for me pre-bsa and I just spawned one using the bsa - and it looked as it should as well. My guess would be that it doesn't show up properly with medium/small textures for some reason, but it's beyond my abilities to check what might cause that. As said, the textures seem to be properly mipmapped - and, well, that is how far my knowledge of this goes. We'll have to wait for showler or Corepc for some insight I'd guess.

Seems you are correct. I changed my settings to Large Textures and I no longer have that issue. I also haven't been CTDing as much since the change either.

» Wed Nov 17, 2010 4:39 pm

i notice that there is a 285 verison of wrye bash here:

http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=22368

would folks suggest i download and use this 285 version of wrye bash or use the version 275 self installer?

» Thu Nov 18, 2010 4:38 am

would folks suggest i download and use this 285 version of wrye bash or use the version 275 self installer?

Definitely. Use the latest Oblivion Script Extender, Wrye Python, Wrye Bash, BOSS, boss masterlist, OOO, MMM, FCOM, UFCOM...

And, well, latest of everything else, just for good measure.