Try updating the NPC levels on the save with Wrye Bash. Right-click on the save > Update NPC Levels.

Some notes:

09 UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp [Version 1.0.0] - Skip and use the Bashed Patch tweak instead.
0A Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp - Skip. In all probability not needed.

++ MOBS SI.esp [Version 1.2.2a] - Consider switching to OMOBS instead as that is more congruent with FCOM as OOO uses it. Use the OMOBS for Cyrodiil as well.

0D MOBS SI Optional Combat Settings.esp [Version 1.2.2a] - Skip, you already have those settings via OOO and Fran's, I believe.

24 Oblivion WarCry EV.esp [Version .] - Odd. No version number? Switch to the updated one you'll find highest in the opening post anyway.
25 FCOM_WarCry.esp [Version 0.9.9MB3] - As above.

++ OOO-Container_Trap_Instant_Effects.esp [Version 1.33] - Skip, no need.

++ Francesco's Slower skills x1.5.esp - Skip or don't use both this and:
++ Level_Rates_Modified_x4.esp - Skip or don't use the one above. I'd recommend switching to Progress when it comes to controlling skill rates.

++ OOO-Magic_Script_Effect_Fix.esp [Version 1.33] - Skip, not needed.

Here are what I spotted.

Active Mod Files:
03 Francesco's Optional New Creatures Add-On.esm <-incompatible with FCOM
09 UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp [Version 1.0.0] <- not needed, use fix in bashed patch
0A Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp <-not needed ??
++ MOBS SI.esp [Version 1.2.2a] <-use http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=28537
0D MOBS SI Optional Combat Settings.esp [Version 1.2.2a] <- as above
13 FranOBSEConfig.esp [Version 0.5] <- I am unsure about this, and what changing the Fran settings does to FCOM
++ OOO-Container_Trap_Instant_Effects.esp [Version 1.33] <- OOO-Lite, incompatible/included with OOO 1.34
2D Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] <- not really needed, adds a small (test??) dungeon
++ MOBS_Knights.esp <- not needed included in FCOM_Knights
++ Francesco's Slower skills x1.5.esp <- incompatible I think, use http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=14304
++ Level_Rates_Modified_x4.esp <- incompatible I think, use Progress
++ Francesco's day lenght rescale 1-16.esp <- not needed, use fix in bashed patch
++ OOO-Magic_Script_Effect_Fix.esp [Version 1.33] <- OOO-Lite, incompatible/included with OOO 1.34

Right, missed that. Definitely skip.

I did see you had responded by the time I was done typing.. but i thought I should leave my post as it was (sans a few speeling errors)

I do have one related question though

13 FranOBSEConfig.esp [Version 0.5]

That plugin and in general changing Fran settings in game, what does that do in relation to FCOM?

It's one of the http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=17621: "Strategy Master's OBSE scripts to set the FransMenu to use OBSE calls and an .ini file. Should help stablize the menu system."

My mistake.. I didn't make myself clear.

I know what the plugin does in relation to Fran.

But you can change Fran (without that plugin) in the game via the console "startquest FranMenu", it is this and what it does to FCOM I am uncertain about.

Ah, OK. Someone else must take that one as I'm not using Fran's, so not sure what you can change via the menu. Don't think I've ever seen any warnings against using the menu options with FCOM, though, so I'd guess it's safe.

Quick question; I just finished off my fresh installation of FCOM, and rebuilt my bashed patch. Having installed COBL, and also Item Exchange, I made sure to leave these deactivated, and instead merge them in the patch.

So, they seem to be merged. I got a few +'s in my list, a few dots (COBL Races TNR), but I seem to be stuck with the TamrielTravellersItemsNPC.esp. It has a Deactivate tag, along with a NoMerge tag. What should I do with this? Keep it activated anyway?

This was up in the Wrye Bash thread a while ago:

All of the tags, right?

EDIT: Nvm, I just deleted all the tags, ran BOSS again, and I'll just use the four tags suggested: Relev, Delev, Filter & Deactivate

IIRC, the others are the same as BOSS gives, so either remove the NoMerge tag - or remove all of them and let BOSS handle the tags on its own. Not using it so I can't double check.

Alright, right now I'm rebuilding with the aforementioned tags. Any problems, I'll just rebuild without the Deactivate tag. Thanks! ^^

im confused as to which set of directions i should follow to install FCOM

since the site is outdated what thread give the best instructions for installing FCOM or UFCOM as it is now being called??

The first post of this thread is most up to date, but http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/walkthroughs/fcomguide has a more in depth guide.

I can not seem to get Oblivion to run after installing FCOM, while following the guide religiously. Here is my load order=

Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm02  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm03  Francesco's Optional New Creatures Add-On.esm  [u]I KNOW your supposed to delete this, i did originally but Oblivion still didnt work (a previous post claimed his game would run without it)[/u]04  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72]05  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]06  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]07  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB3]08  Armamentarium.esm  [Version 1.35]09  Artifacts.esm0A  Cobl Races TNR.esp  [Version 1.53]0B  Cobl Races TNR SI.esp  [Version 1.53]0C  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.0]0D  DLCShiveringIsles.esp0E  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]0F  MOBS SI.esp  [Version 1.2.2a]10  MOBS SI Optional Combat Settings.esp  [Version 1.2.2a]11  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9]----> MISSING MASTER: Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp----> MISSING MASTER: Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp12  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]13  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  Item interchange - Extraction.esp  [Version 0.76]14  DLCHorseArmor.esp15  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]16  DLCOrrery.esp17  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.3]18  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp19  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]1A  Alluring Potion Bottles.esp1B  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.72]1C  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]1D  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp1E  Cheat Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp1F  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 0.9.9]20  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp  [Version .]21  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB3]22  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]++  ArmamentariumLL.esp  [Version 1.35]23  ArmamentariumLLVendors.esp  [Version 1.35]24  ArmamentariumLLMagic.esp  [Version 1.35]25  ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp  [Version 1.35]++  ArmamentariumLLArmaVendor.esp  [Version 1.35]26  OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.72]27  FCOM_Cobl.esp  [Version 0.9.9]28  Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]29  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]2A  FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp  [Version 0.9.9beta2]2B  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9]2C  FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp  [Version 0.9.9]2D  FCOM_SpawnRatesReduced.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]2E  Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life No Gates.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]2F  Mart's Monster Mod - More Passive Wildlife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]30  FCOM_SaferRoads.esp  [Version 0.9.9]31  FCOM_LessRats.esp  [Version 0.9.9]32  Mart's Monster Mod - No Pests.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]33  Mart's Monster Mod - No Swarms.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]34  Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Reavers.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]35  Mart's Monster Mod - No Carrion Rats.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Blood.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Bone Loot.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Giants.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Undead Rise.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]36  Mart's Monster Mod - No Slimes.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Fiends.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Werewolves.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Lanterns.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Adventurers.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Beholdens.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]37  Mart's Monster Mod - Less Reavers.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]38  Mart's Monster Mod - Less Bone Loot.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]39  Mart's Monster Mod - Zombies for Body Meshes.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]3A  Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Quest Locations.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]3B  Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]3C  Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]3D  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]3E  Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]3F  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3f]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot G&GD.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot OOO.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]40  FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]41  FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]42  FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp  [Version 0.9.9]43  FCOM_Archery.esp  [Version 0.9.9]44  FCOM_FriendlierFactions.esp  [Version 0.9.9]45  FCOM_MoreRandomSpawns.esp  [Version 0.9.9]46  FCOM_MoreRandomItems.esp  [Version 0.9.9]47  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]48  ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp  [Version 2.01]49  ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp  [Version 1.35]4A  OOO-WaterFish.esp  [Version 1.34]4B  MMM-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.69]4C  Artifacts.esp4D  Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp  [Version 1.0]4E  Knights.esp4F  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.9]50  Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]51  FCOM_Knights.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]52  Lightweight Potions.esp  [Version 1.1]++  Item interchange - Placement for FCOM.esp  [Version 0.76]++  Item interchange - Option, Ingredients in Bulk.esp  [Version 0.76]53  Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]54  Cobl Races.esp  [Version 1.52]55  Cobl Races - Balanced.esp  [Version 1.52]56  Francesco's 10 days respawn time - 1-20 day lenght rescale.esp++  Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp  [Version 1.53]57  Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp  [Version 01]58  Bashed Patch, 0.esp

Any suggestions?

Has for game not starting up you are missing the Frans File has boss log stated.

You need to reinstall Frans and select those during install.

You need to uninstall frans anyways to remove Frans New Creatures Addon which you do not use with FCOM. Do not select it during the install once again. Read the First Post once again, Quick Start Secion you will find updated frans install notes.

Remove Cheat Bob Armory

Make Sure you have http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/875610-oblivion-warcry/page__st__40__p__16271741&#entry16271741 and http://www.4shared.com/file/REdXF9Ks/FCOM_WarCry109.html![/

Remove more passive wildlife. Slight bug fixed next MMM Release

MMM Gems & Gems Dust is not used, OOO contains Geomancy (Read the OOO pdf)

Remove the Runeskullts loot and loot G&GD and use only the Loot OOO version

Rebuild Patch

Here is what I spotted (but I probably missed some)

01 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm <- not SI version ... reinstall
02 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm <- not SI version ... reinstall
03 Francesco's Optional New Creatures Add-On.esm <-incompatible with FCOM ... delete
0C Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.2.0] <- update to 3.2.10
0F MOBS SI.esp [Version 1.2.2a] <- use http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=28537
10 MOBS SI Optional Combat Settings.esp [Version 1.2.2a] <- as above
11 FCOM_Francescos.esp [Version 0.9.9] <- too high on the load order
----> MISSING MASTER: Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp <-needs Fran SI
----> MISSING MASTER: Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp <-needs Fran SI
1E Cheat Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp <- delete
20 Oblivion WarCry EV.esp [Version .] <- outdated .. update to 1.09
21 FCOM_WarCry.esp [Version 0.9.9MB3] <- outdated .. update
++ ArmamentariumLL.esp [Version 1.35] <- for vanilla ... delete
23 ArmamentariumLLVendors.esp [Version 1.35] <- conflicts with ArmamentariumLLArmaVendor.esp ... delete one
24 ArmamentariumLLMagic.esp [Version 1.35] <- for vanilla ... delete
++ ArmamentariumLLArmaVendor.esp [Version 1.35] <- conflicts with ArmamentariumLLVendor.esp ... delete one

This part is a mess, you can not use less xxx and no xxx at the same time and why install MMM and then remove most
32 Mart's Monster Mod - No Pests.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
33 Mart's Monster Mod - No Swarms.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - No Reavers.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
35 Mart's Monster Mod - No Carrion Rats.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - No Blood.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - No Bone Loot.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - No Giants.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - No Undead Rise.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
36 Mart's Monster Mod - No Slimes.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - No Fiends.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - No Werewolves.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - No Lanterns.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - No Adventurers.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - No Beholdens.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
37 Mart's Monster Mod - Less Reavers.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
38 Mart's Monster Mod - Less Bone Loot.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

++ Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] <- incompatible with FCOM ... delete
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot G&GD.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] <- incompatible with FCOM ... delete
56 Francesco's 10 days respawn time - 1-20 day lenght rescale.esp <- not needed ... use: "Tweak Settings>Cell Respawn Time" in bashed patch
++ Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp [Version 1.53] <- I did not see any hunger mods ... delete
57 Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp [Version 01] <- not needed ... use : "Tweak Settings>Msg: Equip Misc. Item [[none]]

When I played OOO only, chasing deer wouldn't put me into battle mode. However, with FCOM, deer running will put me into battle mode. 70% of time I hear battle music, but i never find out where it is coming from. Is there anything I could do to let animals quietly run away?




edit...
On second thought, I'm a vampire now.... does that affect anything?

Okay, the MOBS topic is confusing me, I must admit. The OP instructs, when installing Francesco's mod, to use MOBS, but if FCOM uses OMOBS, what's the point? (I'm assuming the Francesco ESPs that come with FCOM are applying OMOBS stats.)

Also, is the running backwards script part of Francesco's MOBS integration, or will it still be enabled if I reinstall it without MOBS? It just seemed a tad glitchy.

No idea, really. Checking in TES4Edit it is MMM that handles Deers in FCOM. But I never play as a vamp, never chase deers and I have music turned off so I'm not much help... Guess you must wait for Corepc or someone else to check it out.

Hi!

I've installed FCOM, run BOSS and bashed a patch. Everything's going fine: except that each and every goblin in the first dungeon is carrying a goblin trophy worth ~21,000 gold. It's a bit odd and certainly economy breaking. I think the trophies are coming from WarCry, but I'm not sure why there's so many. Any ideas?

Load list from Wrye Bash:



Thank you for your time.

I thought that issue was fixed earlier this year. And, yes, they're from WarCry.

13 Oblivion WarCry EV.esp [Version 1.09]
14 FCOM_WarCry.esp [Version 0.9.9MB3] - Update to Version 0.9.9MB5, you'll find it highest up in the opening post.

Also, make sure you're using Wrye Bash 287 and are following the Quick Bash Check Guide in the OP.

EDIT: I just checked FCOM_WarCry.esp [Version 0.9.9MB5] in the CS and the Goblin Trophy is in two leveledlists, in both cases with just a 3% chance of getting it, so updating FCOM_WarCry.esp and rebuilding the Bashed Patch should fix it. They should also have zero value.

EDIT 2: On another note, you should update:

1F Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

to http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1105791-relzmartsmonstermod37b3-public-release-3-relz/page__view__findpost__p__16187398. The earlier version had some annoying issues with NPC's not following their pathgrids etc.

What I really need to know is if FCOM is now rebalancing the Fran items with OMOBS. That would allow me to install Francesco without MOBS support and get rid of the moving backward script. I recognize the need to nerf moving backward but I think it goes a bit too far and there's a lag with moving forward after you've moved backward that feels unnatural.

If not I'll probably stop using Francesco, which it sounds like is not all that uncommon. Why do some FCOM users skip over it anyway?

Edit: Okay, it would seem a lot of my difficulty stemmed from not only Fran's running backward script being too intense, but it stacking with the OMOBS one. Yikes! I really recommend you advise all your users who use Francesco to download the No MOBS Run Limit patch from here: http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=17621 The patch is bashable too. Remember earlier in the thread I was complaining about a speed debuff making me backpedal in full speed? It's probably due to how old the script is in Fran's.

I was just looking for the latter, as I was seeing fish on land and knew there was a fix somewhere.

You were right, updating FCOM WarCry and rebashing fixed my trophy problem.

Thank you very much for the help!

You're welcome! And welcome to the forums as well.