[RELz] FCOM Convergence and UFCOM #66 : IV - Oblivion

» Thu Mar 24, 2011 2:01 pm

++ EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp - Only use EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4FCOM.esp, but install the resources for the others.

++ EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer for OOO.esp - Skip. See above.
++ EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4MMM.esp - Skip. See above.

I assume that with a full FCOM setup, EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4FCOM.esp replaces Francesco's EVE esp as well, right?

Just wanted to be sure and the readme didn't help, thanks

» Thu Mar 24, 2011 4:54 pm

I assume that with a full FCOM setup, EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4FCOM.esp replaces Francesco's EVE esp as well, right?

Just wanted to be sure and the readme didn't help, thanks

Yes, except you need FransFemale.esp as well. The http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1064803-relz-evehgec-eyecandy-variants-for-stock-and-mods-relz/ OP has install instructions.

» Thu Mar 24, 2011 7:52 pm

Just one small thing. I like MMM's Resized Races, but it seems to not be showing up in-game even though the esp is merged into the Bashed patch. At the moment all NPCs seem to be vanilla sizes.

++ Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

++ Cobl Races - Balanced.esp [Version 1.52]

You really need to run your load order through BOSS has You have MMM.esm loading before alot of other things that should be loading before it like the OOO.esm and Frans.esm. Suprised it is not crashing this way

You are using Cobl Races Balanced whiich also changes the size of Vanilla Races has well. So this is overwriting MMM Resized Races settings.

Best to just drop MMM Resized Races.. And You need to make sure that Cobl Races Balanced is selected both Under Merge Patches and Under Races Patches section when building bash. Else it will not merge correctly. This is due to how Cobl Races Balanced is built needing both a esm and esp in order to work.

» Thu Mar 24, 2011 4:11 pm

Thanks CorePC,

To be honest I ran BOSS multiple times, but I have adjusted the load order now.
Thanks also for the advice on Races.

It's the first time I've ever used FCOM and its been quite a daunting experience, although rewarding in the end.

Once again I have to give huge thanks to people like Arkngt & CorePC who patiently give so much help to others.

» Thu Mar 24, 2011 7:21 am

Hi! I've just reinstalled FCOM and now I'm having constant and random CTD's...I've updated NPC's in Wrye Bash, created the bashed patch, saven in a separated cell, waited for 10 days...everything that it says in the manual. My load order (BOSS'ed) is:

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Oblivion.esm
ScreenEffects.esm
EnhancedWeather.esm
Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm
Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm
Tamrielic Ingredients.esm
Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm
Mart's Monster Mod.esm
FCOM_Convergence.esm
Armamentarium.esm
Artifacts.esm
Better Cities Resources.esm
Toaster Says Share v3.esm
HorseCombatMaster.esm
Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp
UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp
Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
DLCShiveringIsles.esp
Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp
Better Cities .esp
Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp
Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp
Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp
Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp
FCOM_Francescos.esp
FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp
FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp
EnhancedWeather.esp
Enhanced Weather - Across-The-Borders Mods Patch.esp
WindowLightingSystem.esp
Book Jackets Oblivion.esp
diversegrasses.esp
ImprovedSigns.esp
Spell Delete.esp
VA_BetterGold.esp
Enhanced Economy.esp
Book Jackets DLC.esp
MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp
RTFemaleReplacerV12.esp
Shdw_Armor Set_Sotonhorian.esp
KohdiScimitar.esp
VA_GlamdringSword.esp
XSPipeMod.esp
Roberts Armamentium female.esp
Tamrielic_Ingredients_cOMbo.esp
FCOM_TamrielicIngredients.esp
Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp
FCOM_BobsArmory.esp
Oblivion WarCry EV.esp
FCOM_WarCry.esp
Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp
ArmamentariumLLVendors.esp
ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp
FCOM_Convergence.esp
FCOM_RealSwords.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp
ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp
ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp
OOO-WaterFish.esp
Artifacts.esp
Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp
BladeOfTheHaunted.esp
nordinkarst_1.0.1_en.esp
Side's Sailing Ships.esp
Silvercliff.esp
Apachii_Heroes_Store.esp
ElsweyrAnequina.esp
Reaper's Esmeralda's Desert Manor.esp
Feldscar.esp
xuldarkforest.esp
xulStendarrValley.esp
xulTheHeath.esp
XulEntiusGorge.esp
xulFallenleafEverglade.esp
Anequina-Fallenleaf-Patch.esp
xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp
xulChorrolHinterland.esp
xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp
xulBravilBarrowfields.esp
xulLushWoodlands.esp
xulAncientYews.esp
xulAncientRedwoods.esp
xulCloudtopMountains.esp
xulArriusCreek.esp
xulPatch_AY_AC.esp
xulRollingHills_EV.esp
xulPantherRiver.esp
xulRiverEthe.esp
xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp
xulImperialIsle.esp
xulBlackwoodForest.esp
xulCheydinhalFalls.esp
xulAspenWood.esp
xulSkingradOutskirts.esp
xulSnowdale.esp
Feldscar+Snowdale Patch.esp
OOO-Snowdale Patch.esp
DecoratorAssistant with OBSE v1.1.esp
Quest Item Tag Remover.esp
ScriptIcon_Replacer.esp
Enhanced Vegetation [125%].esp
MidasSpells.esp
FearsomeMagicka.esp
EnchantmentRestore.esp
Spells Be Effective.esp
DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp
S.P.A.M. 100+.esp
Atmospheric Loading Screens - No Text.esp
Cernasite - DragonEyes.esp
Toaster Says Share Faction Recruitment.esp
CompanionMaster.esp
Better Cities Full.esp
Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp
Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp
Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp
Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp
Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp
Better Imperial City.esp
Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp
Better Cities Full FPS Patch.esp
Better Cities - No LEYAWIIN Flooding.esp
Real Lava 1.3.esp
Aedan.esp
Bashed Patch, 0.esp

Thx!

» Thu Mar 24, 2011 7:59 pm

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Repost your load order via Wrye Bash: Right-click File-header > List mods > Paste into post

» Thu Mar 24, 2011 5:45 am

Repost your load order via Wrye Bash: Right-click File-header > List mods > Paste into post

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Active Mod Files:
00 Oblivion.esm
01 ScreenEffects.esm
02 EnhancedWeather.esm [Version 1.4.4]
03 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm [Version 4.5bSI]
04 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm [Version 4.5bSI]
05 Tamrielic Ingredients.esm
06 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.34]
07 Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.7b3p3]
08 FCOM_Convergence.esm [Version 0.9.9MB3]
09 Armamentarium.esm [Version 1.35]
0A Artifacts.esm
0B Better Cities Resources.esm [Version 4.7.1]
0C Toaster Says Share v3.esm
0D HorseCombatMaster.esm
0E Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.3.1]
0F UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp [Version 1.0.0]
10 Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
11 DLCShiveringIsles.esp
12 Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.4.0]
13 Better Cities .esp
14 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp
15 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp
16 Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp
17 Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp
18 FCOM_Francescos.esp [Version 0.9.9]
19 FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp [Version 0.9.9]
1A FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp [Version 0.9.9]
1B EnhancedWeather.esp [Version 1.4.4]
1C Enhanced Weather - Across-The-Borders Mods Patch.esp [Version Final]
1D WindowLightingSystem.esp
1E Book Jackets Oblivion.esp
1F diversegrasses.esp
20 ImprovedSigns.esp
21 Spell Delete.esp
22 VA_BetterGold.esp
23 Enhanced Economy.esp [Version 4.3.1]
24 Book Jackets DLC.esp
25 MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp
26 RTFemaleReplacerV12.esp
27 Shdw_Armor Set_Sotonhorian.esp
28 KohdiScimitar.esp
29 VA_GlamdringSword.esp
2A XSPipeMod.esp [Version 1.2]
2B Roberts Armamentium female.esp
2C Tamrielic_Ingredients_cOMbo.esp
2D FCOM_TamrielicIngredients.esp [Version 0.9.9]
2E Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp
2F FCOM_BobsArmory.esp [Version 0.9.9]
30 Oblivion WarCry EV.esp [Version 1.09]
31 FCOM_WarCry.esp [Version 0.9.9MB5]
32 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.34]
33 ArmamentariumLLVendors.esp [Version 1.35]
34 ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp [Version 1.35]
35 FCOM_Convergence.esp [Version 0.9.9Mb3]
36 FCOM_RealSwords.esp [Version 0.9.9]
37 Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
38 ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp [Version 2.01]
39 ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp [Version 1.35]
3A OOO-WaterFish.esp [Version 1.34]
3B Artifacts.esp
3C Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp [Version 1.0]
3D BladeOfTheHaunted.esp [Version 2.2.1]
3E nordinkarst_1.0.1_en.esp
3F Side's Sailing Ships.esp [Version 0.93.5]
40 Silvercliff.esp [Version 0.9b]
41 Apachii_Heroes_Store.esp
42 ElsweyrAnequina.esp
43 Reaper's Esmeralda's Desert Manor.esp
44 Feldscar.esp [Version 1.0.4]
45 xuldarkforest.esp [Version 1.0.5]
46 xulStendarrValley.esp [Version 1.2.2]
47 xulTheHeath.esp
48 XulEntiusGorge.esp
49 xulFallenleafEverglade.esp [Version 1.3.1]
4A Anequina-Fallenleaf-Patch.esp
4B xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp [Version 1.2.1]
4C xulChorrolHinterland.esp [Version 1.2.2]
4D xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp [Version 1.6.4]
4E xulBravilBarrowfields.esp [Version 1.3.2]
4F xulLushWoodlands.esp [Version 1.3]
50 xulAncientYews.esp [Version 1.4.3]
51 xulAncientRedwoods.esp [Version 1.6]
52 xulCloudtopMountains.esp [Version 1.0.3]
53 xulArriusCreek.esp [Version 1.1.3]
54 xulPatch_AY_AC.esp [Version 1.1]
55 xulRollingHills_EV.esp [Version 1.3.2]
56 xulPantherRiver.esp
57 xulRiverEthe.esp [Version 1.0.2]
58 xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp [Version 1.1]
59 xulImperialIsle.esp [Version 1.6.5]
5A xulBlackwoodForest.esp [Version 1.1.0]
5B xulCheydinhalFalls.esp [Version 1.0.1]
5C xulAspenWood.esp [Version 1.0.2]
5D xulSkingradOutskirts.esp [Version 1.0.1]
5E xulSnowdale.esp [Version 1.0]
5F Feldscar+Snowdale Patch.esp [Version 1.0]
60 OOO-Snowdale Patch.esp
61 DecoratorAssistant with OBSE v1.1.esp
62 Quest Item Tag Remover.esp
63 ScriptIcon_Replacer.esp
64 Enhanced Vegetation [125%].esp
65 MidasSpells.esp
66 FearsomeMagicka.esp
67 EnchantmentRestore.esp
68 Spells Be Effective.esp [Version 1.0]
69 DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp
6A S.P.A.M. 100+.esp [Version 2.2]
6B Atmospheric Loading Screens - No Text.esp
6C Cernasite - DragonEyes.esp
6D Toaster Says Share Faction Recruitment.esp
6E CompanionMaster.esp
6F Better Cities Full.esp [Version 4.7.0]
70 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp [Version 4.7.0]
71 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp [Version 4.7.0]
72 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp [Version 4.7.0]
73 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp [Version 4.7.0]
74 Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp [Version 4.7.0]
75 Better Imperial City.esp [Version 4.7.0]
76 Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp [Version 4.7.0]
77 Better Cities Full FPS Patch.esp [Version 4.7.0]
78 Better Cities - No LEYAWIIN Flooding.esp [Version 4.7.0]
79 Real Lava 1.3.esp
7A Aedan.esp
7B Bashed Patch, 0.esp

» Thu Mar 24, 2011 7:46 am

Spoiler

Active Mod Files:
00 Oblivion.esm
01 ScreenEffects.esm
02 EnhancedWeather.esm [Version 1.4.4]
03 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm [Version 4.5bSI]
04 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm [Version 4.5bSI]
05 Tamrielic Ingredients.esm
06 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.34]
07 Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.7b3p3]
08 FCOM_Convergence.esm [Version 0.9.9MB3]
09 Armamentarium.esm [Version 1.35]
0A Artifacts.esm
0B Better Cities Resources.esm [Version 4.7.1]
0C Toaster Says Share v3.esm
0D HorseCombatMaster.esm
0E Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.3.1]
0F UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp [Version 1.0.0]
10 Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
11 DLCShiveringIsles.esp
12 Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.4.0]
13 Better Cities .esp
14 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp
15 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp
16 Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp
17 Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp
18 FCOM_Francescos.esp [Version 0.9.9]
19 FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp [Version 0.9.9]
1A FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp [Version 0.9.9]
1B EnhancedWeather.esp [Version 1.4.4]
1C Enhanced Weather - Across-The-Borders Mods Patch.esp [Version Final]
1D WindowLightingSystem.esp
1E Book Jackets Oblivion.esp
1F diversegrasses.esp
20 ImprovedSigns.esp
21 Spell Delete.esp
22 VA_BetterGold.esp
23 Enhanced Economy.esp [Version 4.3.1]
24 Book Jackets DLC.esp
25 MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp
26 RTFemaleReplacerV12.esp
27 Shdw_Armor Set_Sotonhorian.esp
28 KohdiScimitar.esp
29 VA_GlamdringSword.esp
2A XSPipeMod.esp [Version 1.2]
2B Roberts Armamentium female.esp
2C Tamrielic_Ingredients_cOMbo.esp
2D FCOM_TamrielicIngredients.esp [Version 0.9.9]
2E Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp
2F FCOM_BobsArmory.esp [Version 0.9.9]
30 Oblivion WarCry EV.esp [Version 1.09]
31 FCOM_WarCry.esp [Version 0.9.9MB5]
32 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.34]
33 ArmamentariumLLVendors.esp [Version 1.35]
34 ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp [Version 1.35]
35 FCOM_Convergence.esp [Version 0.9.9Mb3]
36 FCOM_RealSwords.esp [Version 0.9.9]
37 Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
38 ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp [Version 2.01]
39 ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp [Version 1.35]
3A OOO-WaterFish.esp [Version 1.34]
3B Artifacts.esp
3C Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp [Version 1.0]
3D BladeOfTheHaunted.esp [Version 2.2.1]
3E nordinkarst_1.0.1_en.esp
3F Side's Sailing Ships.esp [Version 0.93.5]
40 Silvercliff.esp [Version 0.9b]
41 Apachii_Heroes_Store.esp
42 ElsweyrAnequina.esp
43 Reaper's Esmeralda's Desert Manor.esp
44 Feldscar.esp [Version 1.0.4]
45 xuldarkforest.esp [Version 1.0.5]
46 xulStendarrValley.esp [Version 1.2.2]
47 xulTheHeath.esp
48 XulEntiusGorge.esp
49 xulFallenleafEverglade.esp [Version 1.3.1]
4A Anequina-Fallenleaf-Patch.esp
4B xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp [Version 1.2.1]
4C xulChorrolHinterland.esp [Version 1.2.2]
4D xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp [Version 1.6.4]
4E xulBravilBarrowfields.esp [Version 1.3.2]
4F xulLushWoodlands.esp [Version 1.3]
50 xulAncientYews.esp [Version 1.4.3]
51 xulAncientRedwoods.esp [Version 1.6]
52 xulCloudtopMountains.esp [Version 1.0.3]
53 xulArriusCreek.esp [Version 1.1.3]
54 xulPatch_AY_AC.esp [Version 1.1]
55 xulRollingHills_EV.esp [Version 1.3.2]
56 xulPantherRiver.esp
57 xulRiverEthe.esp [Version 1.0.2]
58 xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp [Version 1.1]
59 xulImperialIsle.esp [Version 1.6.5]
5A xulBlackwoodForest.esp [Version 1.1.0]
5B xulCheydinhalFalls.esp [Version 1.0.1]
5C xulAspenWood.esp [Version 1.0.2]
5D xulSkingradOutskirts.esp [Version 1.0.1]
5E xulSnowdale.esp [Version 1.0]
5F Feldscar+Snowdale Patch.esp [Version 1.0]
60 OOO-Snowdale Patch.esp
61 DecoratorAssistant with OBSE v1.1.esp
62 Quest Item Tag Remover.esp
63 ScriptIcon_Replacer.esp
64 Enhanced Vegetation [125%].esp
65 MidasSpells.esp
66 FearsomeMagicka.esp
67 EnchantmentRestore.esp
68 Spells Be Effective.esp [Version 1.0]
69 DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp
6A S.P.A.M. 100+.esp [Version 2.2]
6B Atmospheric Loading Screens - No Text.esp
6C Cernasite - DragonEyes.esp
6D Toaster Says Share Faction Recruitment.esp
6E CompanionMaster.esp
6F Better Cities Full.esp [Version 4.7.0]
70 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp [Version 4.7.0]
71 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp [Version 4.7.0]
72 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp [Version 4.7.0]
73 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp [Version 4.7.0]
74 Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp [Version 4.7.0]
75 Better Imperial City.esp [Version 4.7.0]
76 Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp [Version 4.7.0]
77 Better Cities Full FPS Patch.esp [Version 4.7.0]
78 Better Cities - No LEYAWIIN Flooding.esp [Version 4.7.0]
79 Real Lava 1.3.esp
7A Aedan.esp
7B Bashed Patch, 0.esp

I see no obvious suspected culprits, although I'm not familiar with all mods you're using. Make sure the MMM.bsa is renamed to FCOM_Convergence_MartsMonsterMod.bsa. If that's not it, try cutting back to a core FCOM install before adding other mods, e.g. just the base FCOM install.

Generally, I recommend installing FCOM incrementally because it's difficult to trouble shoot when you start out with lots of mods.

Do you have more details on the CTDs? Are they completely random? Did you start a new game or did you add FCOM to an ongoing game?

0F UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp [Version 1.0.0] - Use the Bashed Patch tweak instead an save a slot.
10 Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp - Not needed. (Or, rather, only use if you notice that it's needed.)

» Thu Mar 24, 2011 10:48 am

Yes, I've already discovered it, thx ^^ Edited 2nd post.

» Thu Mar 24, 2011 8:11 am

I see no obvious suspected culprits, although I'm not familiar with all mods you're using. Make sure the MMM.bsa is renamed to FCOM_Convergence_MartsMonsterMod.bsa. If that's not it, try cutting back to a core FCOM install before adding other mods, e.g. just the base FCOM install.

Generally, I recommend installing FCOM incrementally because it's difficult to trouble shoot when you start out with lots of mods.

Also, do you have more details on the CTDs? Are they completely random? Did you start a new game or did you add FCOM to an ongoing game?

OK, I downloaded the optimized Francesco BSA, and renamed it, but I didn't renamed MMM's one. I'll test it now and see if that was the problem

And I'm using an existing save.

» Thu Mar 24, 2011 6:12 pm

OK, I downloaded the optimized Francesco BSA, and renamed it, but I didn't renamed MMM's one. I'll test it now and see if that was the problem

And I'm using an existing save.

Hopefully that's the issue. If adding FCOM to an ongoing game you should wait for a respawn (i.e. 4 days if on default) and also update NPC levels in that save - but it seems you already have done so.

» Thu Mar 24, 2011 5:21 pm

Hopefully that's the issue. If adding FCOM to an ongoing game you should wait for a respawn (i.e. 4 days if on default) and also update NPC levels in that save - but it seems you already have done so.

Yep, I did

Anyways, it seems that was the issue...the crashes have gone in a playthough where I should have had at least 2 or 3 of them. Only problem now is that I got my ass pwned by some sort of odd skeleton in full metal armor :_(

Thx for the help!

» Thu Mar 24, 2011 7:15 am

Only problem now is that I got my ass pwned by some sort of odd skeleton in full metal armor :_(

Sorry about that.

» Thu Mar 24, 2011 2:24 pm

Only problem now is that I got my ass pwned by some sort of odd skeleton in full metal armor :_(

And that's why I love FCOM.

» Thu Mar 24, 2011 7:05 am

Just thought folks would like to know that the optimized Frans resources linked in the OP have now been uploaded to Nexus, where they won't be subject to the whims of Megaupload and it's random policy of spewing forth spam and pop-ups at people who download from there.

In the process I also ran the newest PyFFI on the meshes to pick up on optimizations that weren't available the last time, like collision. All of the textures in both files have been optimized for the proper compression types as well.

If the OP could update the links to point here: http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=34830 that would be appreciated. I've also given Corepc edit access to the entry should he need it.

» Thu Mar 24, 2011 11:50 am

Just thought folks would like to know that the optimized Frans resources linked in the OP have now been uploaded to Nexus, where they won't be subject to the whims of Megaupload and it's random policy of spewing forth spam and pop-ups at people who download from there.

In the process I also ran the newest PyFFI on the meshes to pick up on optimizations that weren't available the last time, like collision. All of the textures in both files have been optimized for the proper compression types as well.

If the OP could update the links to point here: http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=34830 that would be appreciated. I've also given Corepc edit access to the entry should he need it.

Done. Thanks for the update!

» Thu Mar 24, 2011 1:33 pm

MMM-Cobl overwrites quite a lot from FCOM_Convergence.esp if loaded after, like for example MQ15XivilaiAnaxes "Anaxes" [CREA:0005E1DC who loses a MMM Boss Token and a FCOMWarCry0001UniqueItems [LVLI:0A000806], but gets two cobTiDaedraDrop75 [LVLI:070041C1] instead.

But if it loads before most creatures will get FCOM drops instead of COBL ones.

Thoughts?

» Thu Mar 24, 2011 10:10 pm

About to hopefully switch from 360 to PC and I know FCOM is really cool and makes the game way better but just watching the trailer and looking at all the stuff involved in it and it scares the crap out of me. I feel like I'll just get lost in all the new stuff and not like level my character correctly or know what the heck I'm doing. I've already played the game a ton on 360 so I have no problem modding it when I get the PC version. Any advice?

» Thu Mar 24, 2011 10:31 pm

About to hopefully switch from 360 to PC and I know FCOM is really cool and makes the game way better but just watching the trailer and looking at all the stuff involved in it and it scares the crap out of me. I feel like I'll just get lost in all the new stuff and not like level my character correctly or know what the heck I'm doing. I've already played the game a ton on 360 so I have no problem modding it when I get the PC version. Any advice?

If you are new to mods start with just OOO or OOO+MMM.
You'll get most of the contents anyway and it will be much easier to install.

» Thu Mar 24, 2011 7:52 am

If you are new to mods start with just OOO or OOO+MMM.
You'll get most of the contents anyway and it will be much easier to install.

Okay thanks. Is there a guide to installing just those two? I know they work alone or part of fcom but I don't recall seeing an ooommm thread. Does installing just them add new armor and weapons? Do they work with the deluxe goty edition that has SI and all the plugins? Sorry for all the questions. I just wanna make sure that I do this right and I've looked up mods on uesp and a lot of them are like 3 years old.

» Thu Mar 24, 2011 1:09 pm

Okay thanks. Is there a guide to installing just those two? I know they work alone or part of fcom but I don't recall seeing an ooommm thread. Does installing just them add new armor and weapons? Do they work with the deluxe goty edition that has SI and all the plugins? Sorry for all the questions. I just wanna make sure that I do this right and I've looked up mods on uesp and a lot of them are like 3 years old.

There is no OOO+MMM thread, but separate OOO and MMM threads.
If you want to use both OOO and MMM you need to use the Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esm file, the MMM thread is probably the best place to ask for more details.
Installing them does much more than just add new armour and weapons. OOO overhauls most aspects of the game, adds lots of new items, new quests and makes the game much more immersive.
MMM adds lots of new monsters and more advanced monster AI.

» Thu Mar 24, 2011 2:53 pm

There is no OOO+MMM thread, but seperate OOO and MMM thread.
If you want to use both OOO and MMM you need to use the Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esm file, the MMM thread is probably the best place to ask for more details.
Installing them does much more than just add new armour and weapons. OOO overhauls most aspects of the game, adds lots of new items, new quests and makes the game much more immersive.
MMM adds lots of new monsters and more advanced monster AI.

Ok thanks. Ya I know about OOO changing the game I just wasn't sure if the FC ones added the new armor and weapons. I just wannna make sure that I won't get lost and like level my character up wrong and screw myself when I get to a high level. Also wanna make sure its compatible with SI and all the other offiucial plugins I'm getting right off the bat.

» Thu Mar 24, 2011 2:40 pm

MMM-Cobl overwrites quite a lot from FCOM_Convergence.esp if loaded after, like for example MQ15XivilaiAnaxes "Anaxes" [CREA:0005E1DC who loses a MMM Boss Token and a FCOMWarCry0001UniqueItems [LVLI:0A000806], but gets two cobTiDaedraDrop75 [LVLI:070041C1] instead.

But if it loads before most creatures will get FCOM drops instead of COBL ones.

Thoughts?

You will have to wait on the Next Cobl, OOO, MMM, FCOM Updates for these issue to get fixed along with most of Cobl/OOO/MMM/FCOM Cobl Related stuff And Boss token has well added to MQ Npc and Creatures has needed.. Once again all part of the next updates due out soon hopefully..

» Thu Mar 24, 2011 10:19 pm

Hello. Just registered to say first of all thank you for such a brilliant summary in the opening post!

I managed to install FCOM with minimal difficulties thanks to it.

Sadly, something is going wrong during my testing of it, and I hope someone here would shed some light on it. So here goes..

When I use the test module (300_test.esp) my game crash in cell 26 if I am level 13. I have tried many times and it occurs maybe ~30% of the times I load it. The crash is instant, sometimes in the beginning of the loading bar, sometimes in the end of it. But when it crashes, it always does so in the loading screen. When it doesnt crash, everything seems to be working just fine with the enemies. The enemies there are mostly equipped skeletons and such things.

I went through the test mod on several levels, and on say, level 1 and 3, I can pass through all 29 cells. But when I hit lvl 13, it occurs. I have only tested briefly to play oblivion "the normal way" and FCOM seems to have installed flawless. Everything works. But thanks to this crash in the test mod, I can only assume something isnt right :S

What is also odd, is that this guy also experience this exact same thing (also cell 26) : http://www.thenexusforums.com/index.php?/topic/232437-fcom-crash-300testcell26-hates-me/

Can anyone of you help me out with this?

I installed FCOM and did everything 100% as said in the opening post. I have enough experience with earlier versions FCOM so I could follow it kinda well with theese new components. I think I did everything right, and I have went over it countless of times too, in vain, trying to see if I forgot something.

If someone could spot something wrong with this installation then please say so.
My modlist:

Spoiler

Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]02  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]03  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.73]04  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]05  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]06  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB3]07  Armamentarium.esm  [Version 1.35]08  Artifacts.esm**  Cobl Races TNR.esp  [Version 1.53]**  Cobl Races TNR SI.esp  [Version 1.53]09  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.3.1]0A  DLCShiveringIsles.esp0B  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]0C  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp0D  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp0E  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp0F  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp10  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9]11  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]12  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9]13  DLCHorseArmor.esp14  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]15  Mart's Monster Mod - DLCHorseArmor+Slofs .esp  [Version 0.91]16  DLCOrrery.esp17  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.3]18  DLCVileLair.esp19  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]1A  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp1B  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]1C  DLCSpellTomes.esp1D  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]1E  DLCThievesDen.esp1F  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]20  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp  [Version 1.0.4]21  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.73]22  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]23  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp24  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 0.9.9]25  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp  [Version 1.09]26  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB5]27  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]**  OMOBS.esp  [Version 1.0]**  OMOBS_SI.esp  [Version 1.0]28  ArmamentariumLLVendors.esp  [Version 1.35]29  OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.72]2A  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]2B  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9]2C  FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp  [Version 0.9.9]2D  Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]2E  Mart's Monster Mod - More Passive Wildlife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]2F  Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]30  Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]31  Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Quest Locations.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]32  Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]33  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]34  Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]35  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3f]36  Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]37  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot G&GD.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]38  FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]39  FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]3A  FCOM_MoreRandomSpawns.esp  [Version 0.9.9]3B  FCOM_MoreRandomItems.esp  [Version 0.9.9]3C  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]3D  ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp  [Version 2.01]3E  ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp  [Version 1.35]3F  MMM-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.73]40  Artifacts.esp41  Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp  [Version 1.0]42  DLCFrostcrag.esp43  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]44  Knights.esp45  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.9]46  Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]47  FCOM_Knights.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]48  Cobl Races.esp  [Version 1.52]49  Bashed Patch, 0.esp4A  Streamline 3.1.esp4B  300_Test.esp  [Version 0.9.2]

(I did rename the BSA file too, I checked it many times now)

» Thu Mar 24, 2011 10:55 pm

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(I did rename the BSA file too, I checked it many times now)

I've actually never run the 300_test.esp so I guess I'll have to check it out. Your load order looks fine and I was going to recommend double checking that the MMM.bsa was renamed correctly, but that's apparently not it. Have you followed http://devnull.sweetdanger.net/convergence.html to get Fran's bsa loaded?

EDIT: It works fine for me, with my Lvl 21 char. And Cell 26 has indeed Undead spawns, so Shivering Zombie Master from MMM, Boneflayers from WarCry etc. I'd double check that the Fran's bsa is loading correctly as said. Not sure how you have installed WarCry - are you using the bsa or the default install? In short, follow the "required" part if using the test BSA's. Also, if using a body replacer you need to use Mart's Monster Mod - Zombies for Body Meshes.esp. That's all I can think of ATM.

BTW, I thought the test cells would be safe: "The spawns are behind an invisible barrier so you can examine the creatures/NPCs behavior, faction aggression, AI, etc. safely." But ranged attacks definitely works - my char was hit by both arrows and target spells.

EDIT 2: A minor note:

3D ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp [Version 2.01] - You can merge this in the Bashed Patch and keep unchecked.
3E ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp [Version 1.35] - As above.