FCOM, crash on start/new game : IV

» Tue May 03, 2011 8:23 am

Greetings gents, finally got around to re installing (again) oblivion and decided to install fcom as well, now, ive re installed it twice this time, using the obmm scripts for fcom, and yet, nearly every time i start the game, it crashes immediately, and if it dosent crash, i try to start a game, and it will crash.

the weird thing is that i cant narrow it down to any particular mod, ill disable one, it will seem to work, i enable it, game crash, disable it again, game crashes again, in short, lolwhut

ive deactivated everything except the FCOM mods, and get the same issue, here is what im left with

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Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]02  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]03  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72]04  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.33]05  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]06  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB3]07  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.0]08  UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp  [Version 1.0.0]09  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp0A  DLCShiveringIsles.esp0B  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp0C  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp0D  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp0E  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp++  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]0F  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9]10  PCSoundHaerDalis.esp  [Version 2.6]11  DLCOrrery.esp12  DLCVileLair.esp13  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp14  DLCSpellTomes.esp15  DLCThievesDen.esp16  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp17  Cheat Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp18  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 0.9.9]19  Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp1A  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp  [Version 1.08a]1B  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB3]1C  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.33]++  FCOM_Cobl.esp  [Version 0.9.9]1D  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]1E  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9]1F  FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp  [Version 0.9.9]20  Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  FCOM_SaferRoads.esp  [Version 0.9.9]21  Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]22  Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]23  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp  [Version 0.9.9]24  FCOM_FriendlierFactions.esp  [Version 0.9.9]25  FCOM_MoreRandomSpawns.esp  [Version 0.9.9]26  FCOM_MoreRandomItems.esp  [Version 0.9.9]27  DLCfrostcrag.esp28  Knights.esp29  Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]2A  FCOM_Knights.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]2B  Francesco's 10 days respawn time - 1-20 day lenght rescale.esp2C  FCOM_Archery.esp  [Version 0.9.9]2D  Bashed Patch, 0.esp

and ideas as to what i messed up this time?

UPDATE: didnt realize cobl main was active, deactivated, rebuilt patch, same issue

» Mon May 02, 2011 9:45 pm

04 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.33]
1C Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.33]

Update OOO to version 1.34Beta5 has MMMForOOO/FCOM require it..

» Tue May 03, 2011 5:03 am

...gaaah i cant belive i forgot that step >< thanks, give me a minute ill let you know if it worked

fixed that, rebuilt patch, game loads fine, still cant start new game

» Tue May 03, 2011 8:57 am

What are you using as a gude for your install? I first followed the FCOM guide. I was haviing some problems and decided to look at TomLongs guides and found the FCOM/UFCOM thread here. It has working links to the current versions of everything you need for a basic install of FCOM and is up to date.

» Mon May 02, 2011 8:24 pm

aaah see i was following the fcom site, ill head over to the fcom thread and try it again

» Mon May 02, 2011 8:03 pm

Hokay, uninstalled, reinstalled from fcom thread, prayed to sheogorath, rebuilt patch, took a shot of whiskey, aaaand....crash on new game

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Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]02  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]03  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72]04  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]05  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]06  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB3]07  Armamentarium.esm  [Version 1.35]08  Artifacts.esm  [Version 1.1]09  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.0]0A  UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp  [Version 1.0.0]0B  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp0C  DLCShiveringIsles.esp0D  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]0E  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp0F  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp10  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp11  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp++  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]12  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9]13  PCSoundHaerDalis.esp  [Version 2.6]14  DLCOrrery.esp15  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.3]16  DLCVileLair.esp17  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]18  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp19  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]1A  DLCSpellTomes.esp1B  DLCThievesDen.esp1C  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]1D  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp  [Version 1.0.4]1E  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.72]1F  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]20  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp21  Cheat Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp22  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 0.9.9]23  Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp24  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp  [Version 1.08a]25  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB3]26  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]27  ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp  [Version 1.35]28  OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.72]++  FCOM_Cobl.esp  [Version 0.9.9]29  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]2A  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9]2B  FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp  [Version 0.9.9]2C  Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  FCOM_SaferRoads.esp  [Version 0.9.9]2D  Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]2E  Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]2F  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]30  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3f]++  FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp  [Version 0.9.9]31  FCOM_ArcheryHunting&Crafting.esp  [Version 1]32  FCOM_MoreRandomSpawns.esp  [Version 0.9.9]33  OOO-WaterFish.esp  [Version 1.34]34  Artifacts.esp  [Version 1.1]35  DLCfrostcrag.esp36  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]37  Knights.esp38  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.9]39  Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]3A  Cobl Races.esp  [Version 1.52]3B  Francesco's 10 days respawn time - 1-20 day lenght rescale.esp3C  FCOM_Archery.esp  [Version 0.9.9]3D  Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp  [Version 01]3E  Bashed Patch, 0.esp

halp 0_o

» Mon May 02, 2011 6:54 pm

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00 Oblivion.esm
01 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm [Version 4.5bSI]
02 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm [Version 4.5bSI]
03 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.72] - Upgrade to 1.73 DEV (loot merchant proposal) and the latest MMM Cobl patch
04 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.34]
05 Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.7b3p3]
06 FCOM_Convergence.esm [Version 0.9.9MB3]
07 Armamentarium.esm [Version 1.35]
08 Artifacts.esm [Version 1.1]
09 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.2.0]
0A UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp [Version 1.0.0] - Remove this file and use the bashed patch tweak
0B Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp - This file will cause problems and it's not required
0C DLCShiveringIsles.esp
0D Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.4.0] - I suppose it's the MOBS version, right?
0E Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp
0F Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp
10 Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp
11 Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp
++ FCOM_Francescos.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp [Version 0.9.9]
12 FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp [Version 0.9.9]
13 PCSoundHaerDalis.esp [Version 2.6] - What's that?
14 DLCOrrery.esp
15 DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.3]
16 DLCVileLair.esp
17 DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]
18 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
19 DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4]
1A DLCSpellTomes.esp
1B DLCThievesDen.esp
1C DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]
1D DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp [Version 1.0.4]
1E Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.72] - Look at COBL Main.esm
1F Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.63] - same
20 Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp
21 Cheat Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp - Delete this file
22 FCOM_BobsArmory.esp [Version 0.9.9]
23 Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp - Where is the FCOM compatibility patch?
24 Oblivion WarCry EV.esp [Version 1.08a] - too old, upgrade to 1.09 and the latest FCOM Warcry patch
25 FCOM_WarCry.esp [Version 0.9.9MB3] - same
26 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.34]
27 ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp [Version 1.35]
28 OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp [Version 1.72]
++ FCOM_Cobl.esp [Version 0.9.9] - Delete this file and use the latest MMM Cobl patch
29 FCOM_Convergence.esp [Version 0.9.9Mb3]
2A FCOM_RealSwords.esp [Version 0.9.9]
2B FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp [Version 0.9.9]
2C Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] - I heard it will cause problems
++ FCOM_SaferRoads.esp [Version 0.9.9]
2D Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
2E Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] - The MMM readme says this file is not compatible with OOO, remove it
2F Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
30 Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp [Version 3.7b3p3f] - Diverse Waterlife AND OOO Water fish? Choose the MMM version and upgrade to the latest Waterlife update
++ FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp [Version 0.9.9]
31 FCOM_ArcheryHunting&Crafting.esp [Version 1]
32 FCOM_MoreRandomSpawns.esp [Version 0.9.9] - Afaik not compatible with the latest MMM version. I could be wrong though
33 OOO-WaterFish.esp [Version 1.34] - Look at diverse waterlife, remove this file
34 Artifacts.esp [Version 1.1]
35 DLCfrostcrag.esp
36 DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4]
37 Knights.esp
38 Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.9]
39 Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] - Not compatible with OOO
3A Cobl Races.esp [Version 1.52]
3B Francesco's 10 days respawn time - 1-20 day lenght rescale.esp - Remove it. Oblivion sets it to 3 days for a reason. Longer respawn times will cause save game bloating
3C FCOM_Archery.esp [Version 0.9.9]
3D Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp [Version 01]
3E Bashed Patch, 0.esp

There are some missing files in your Armamentarium installation. Look at my load order. Maybe you can find out what files I mean:

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Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 1.2.1]02  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]03  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]04  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.73]05  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]06  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]07  VASE - core.esm08  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB3]09  Armamentarium.esm  [Version 1.35]0A  Artifacts.esm0B  Better Cities Resources.esm  [Version 4.9.0]0C  bookplacing.esm0D  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.3.3]0E  DLCShiveringIsles.esp0F  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]++  Shivering OOO.esp10  Better Cities .esp  [Version 4.7.0]11  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp12  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp13  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp14  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp++  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]15  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9]16  Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp17  All Natural.esp  [Version 1.2]18  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 1.2.1]19  Enhanced Water v2.0 HDMI.esp++  Real Lava 1.3.esp++  Symphony of Violence.esp1A  WindowLightingSystem.esp1B  Ayleid Loot EXtension.esp1C  Ayleid Loot EXtension - OOO Dungeons.esp1D  Book Jackets Oblivion - BP.esp1E  ChaseCameraMod.esp1F  ClocksOfCyrodiil.esp20  ClocksOfCyrodiil_BC_OBC_OC_OCLR_Vanilla.esp++  Item interchange - Extraction.esp  [Version 0.78]21  Enhanced Economy.esp  [Version 5.2.2]22  DarNifiedUI Config Addon.esp23  Display Stats.esp  [Version 1.3.1]24  DropLitTorchOBSE.esp  [Version 2.4]25  Enhanced Seasons.esp  [Version 1.3.1]26  Get Wet - just droplets.esp27  kuerteeCleanUp.esp28  Oblivion Graphics Extender Support.esp  [Version 0.42]29  Quest Log Manager.esp  [Version 1.3.2]2A  Streamline 3.1.esp2B  Dynamic Map.esp  [Version 2.0]2C  Map Marker Overhaul.esp  [Version 3.8]2D  Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp  [Version 3.5]2E  Enhanced Hotkeys.esp  [Version 2.1.1]++  MaleBodyReplacerV3.esp++  MMM_Runeskull_Rebalance_BETA2.esp  [Version Beta]2F  Slof's Oblivion Robe Trader.esp30  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.73]31  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]32  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp33  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 0.9.9]34  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp  [Version 1.09]35  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB5]36  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]**  OMOBS.esp  [Version 1.0]**  OMOBS_SI.esp  [Version 1.0]++  ArmamentariumLLVendors.esp  [Version 1.35]37  OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.72]38  OBSE-Storms & Sound SI.esp39  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]++  FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp  [Version 0.9.9beta2]3A  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9]3B  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  VASE - Cyrodiil for MMM.esp++  Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp  [Version 2.01]++  ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp  [Version 1.35]++  MMM-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.73]3C  Artifacts.esp++  Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp  [Version 1.0]3D  The Ayleid Steps.esp  [Version 3.4.1]++  FCOM_SlofsRobeTrader.esp  [Version 0.9.9]3E  road+bridges.esp  [Version 4.6]3F  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 1.0.5]40  xulStendarrValley.esp  [Version 1.2.2]41  xulTheHeath.esp42  XulEntiusGorge.esp43  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 1.3.1]44  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp  [Version 1.2.1]45  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.2]46  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [Version 1.6.4]47  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3.2]48  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 1.3.1]49  xulAncientYews.esp  [Version 1.4.3]4A  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 1.6]4B  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 1.0.3]4C  xulArriusCreek.esp  [Version 1.1.3]4D  xulPatch_AY_AC.esp  [Version 1.1]4E  xulRollingHills_EV.esp  [Version 1.3.3]4F  xulPantherRiver.esp50  xulRiverEthe.esp  [Version 1.0.2]51  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.1]52  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.6]53  xulBlackwoodForest.esp  [Version 1.1.0]54  xulCheydinhalFalls.esp  [Version 1.0.1]55  xulAspenWood.esp  [Version 1.0.2]56  xulSkingradOutskirts.esp  [Version 1.0.1]57  xulSnowdale.esp  [Version 1.0.1]58  OOO-Snowdale Patch.esp59  xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp5A  OOOCliffsofAnvilPatch.esp  [Version 1.0]5B  NRB4+UL-II Patch.esp  [Version 5.0.1]5C  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]5D  Soulgem Magic.esp  [Version 1.0]5E  Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp  [Version 3.2.0]5F  ATakesAll.esp60  Quest Award Leveling.esp61  Quest Award Leveling - Finger of the Mountain.esp62  Kyoma's Spell Renamer.esp  [Version 3.0.1]63  RefScope.esp  [Version 2.1.2]64  MidasSpells.esp65  Lightweight Potions.esp  [Version 1.1]66  sycHearNoEvil.esp  [Version 1.0]67  Oblivion XP.esp**  Cava Obscura - Cyrodiil.esp**  Cava Obscura - SI.esp**  Cava Obscura - Filter Patch For Mods.esp++  Item interchange - Placement for FCOM.esp  [Version 0.78]68  bgBalancingEVCore.esp  [Version 10.52EV-D]69  bgMagicEV.esp  [Version 1.7EV]++  bgMagicSpellTomes_for_WryeBash.esp  [Version 1.68EV]++  bgMagicItemSigil.esp  [Version 1.68EV]++  bgMagicEVStartspells.esp  [Version 1.68EV]6A  bgMagicBonus.esp  [Version 1.7EV]++  bgMagicEVAddEnVar.esp  [Version 1.68EV]6B  bgMagicEVPaperChase.esp  [Version 1.68EV]6C  bgMagicAlchemy.esp  [Version 1.57]6D  bgMagicPotionNumberSoulGemValue.esp  [Version 1.68UV]++  VC - LAME VASE twinkle tweak.esp++  bgBalancingEVOptionalClasses.esp  [Version 9.0EV-U]++  bgBalancingEVOptionalFangs.esp  [Version 10.0EV-D]**  bgBalancingEVOptionalNPCDiversity, TNR Merge.esp  [Version 10.0EV-D]++  bgBalancingEVOptionalFCOMAdditions.esp  [Version 10.]++  bgBalancingEVLAMEGlue.esp  [Version 10.0EV-D1.62EV]**  bgBalancingEVOptionalNPCDiversityLAME.esp  [Version 10.5EV-D]++  bgBalancingEVOptionalSeamReducerHighElfFix.esp  [Version 10.0EV-D]6E  bgIntegrationEV.esp  [Version 0.993]6F  Better Cities Full.esp  [Version 4.9.0]70  Better Imperial City.esp  [Version 4.9.0]71  Better Cities Full FPS Patch.esp  [Version 4.9.0]72  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp  [Version 4.7.0]73  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp  [Version 4.8.4]74  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp  [Version 4.8.1]75  Better Cities - COBL.esp  [Version 2.1]76  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Imperial Isle.esp  [Version 4.8.1]77  No More Annoying Messages.esp  [Version 1.3]78  Automatic Timescale.esp  [Version 1.1.1]**  [GFX]_Initial_Glow-all.esp**  bgMagicEVShader.esp  [Version 1.7EV]++  bgMagicShaderLifeDetect.esp  [Version 1.68]79  bgMagicLightningbolt.esp**  NRB4 Standard Road Record.esp++  Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp  [Version 1.53]7A  Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp  [Version 01]++  OOO Harvest Containers Filter patch for mods.esp  [Version 1.03]**  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 1.2]7B  Bashed Patch, 0.esp

» Tue May 03, 2011 4:54 am

On the topic of More Wilderness Life causing problems: I did report that the plugin was causing CTDs for me when I tried to pass by Brina Cross Inn or Gottshaw Inn on the Gold Road, and that removing the plugin stopped this from happening (weirdly, I didn't even need to reset the cells before the crashing stopped).

However, I didn't really test that very well and so this is hardly conclusive proof that MMM-MWL has problems in it. Just keep an eye out for crashing in the general area I described and turn this guy off if it starts happening.

» Mon May 02, 2011 8:23 pm

Hokay, uninstalled, reinstalled from fcom thread, prayed to sheogorath, rebuilt patch, took a shot of whiskey, aaaand....crash on new game

Do you mean after the movie intro? If so it's most often caused by not having the MMM bsa or not having it renamed correctly (FCOM_Convergence_MartsMonsterMod.bsa).

Also:

0A UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp [Version 1.0.0] - Use the Bashed Patch tweak instead and save a slot.
0B Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp - Don't use. Only use if you notice it's needed.

24 Oblivion WarCry EV.esp [Version 1.08a] - Update to 109. See top of FCOM thread.
25 FCOM_WarCry.esp [Version 0.9.9MB3] - As above.

2E Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] - Don't use with OOO/FCOM.

» Mon May 02, 2011 10:00 pm

ooookkaaay so, removed and updated everything you all recommended, before you ask yes i downloaded everything from the official thread, so if its out of date then its not my fault this time =P. the crashes have become worse, on game start now. im about ready to call it quits and go become a hermit up in the mountains somewhere

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Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]02  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]03  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]04  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]05  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB3]06  Armamentarium.esm  [Version 1.35]07  Artifacts.esm  [Version 1.1]08  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.0]09  DLCShiveringIsles.esp0A  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]0B  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp0C  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp0D  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp0E  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp++  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]0F  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9]10  PCSoundHaerDalis.esp  [Version 2.6]11  DLCOrrery.esp12  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.3]13  DLCVileLair.esp14  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]15  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp16  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]17  DLCSpellTomes.esp18  DLCThievesDen.esp19  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]1A  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp  [Version 1.0.4]1B  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp1C  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 0.9.9]1D  Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp1E  FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp  [Version 0.9.9]1F  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp  [Version 1.09]20  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB3]21  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]22  ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp  [Version 1.35]23  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]24  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9]25  FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_SaferRoads.esp  [Version 0.9.9]26  Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]27  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]28  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3f]++  FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp  [Version 0.9.9]29  FCOM_ArcheryHunting&Crafting.esp  [Version 1]2A  Artifacts.esp  [Version 1.1]2B  DLCfrostcrag.esp2C  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]2D  Knights.esp2E  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.9]2F  FCOM_Archery.esp  [Version 0.9.9]30  Bashed Patch, 0.esp

» Mon May 02, 2011 8:43 pm

I noticed you are missing Cobl Main.esm, and the Cobl plugins.

» Tue May 03, 2011 4:30 am

I noticed you are missing Cobl Main.esm, and the Cobl plugins.

ive got them all disabled at the moment, havent updated them yet and felt id get this running before i installed it

» Tue May 03, 2011 8:22 am

Have you built your Bashed Patch and follwed the instructions on the thread on what to check and leave unchecked for the section of the Patch?

» Tue May 03, 2011 3:35 am

yes and yes

correction, i just went over it again and it appears that i may have forgotten to select all when merging, let me rebuild it and see what happens

» Tue May 03, 2011 10:30 am

ok, fixed the bashed patch and went over the settings and tags twice to make sure i didnt miss anything, rebuilt it, still get crashing

» Tue May 03, 2011 7:45 am

You did forget FCOM_Knights.esp. It is worth all of the hassles involved in installing though.

» Mon May 02, 2011 10:59 pm

no i didnt its tagged as mergable and isnt activated, just has that + in the box

» Mon May 02, 2011 8:09 pm

no i didnt its tagged as mergable and isnt activated, just has that + in the box

It is not listed in the Active Mod Files in the last Load Order you posted. BOSS places it between the UOMP for Knights and FCOM_Archery.esp

» Tue May 03, 2011 2:57 am

It is not listed in the Active Mod Files in the last Load Order you posted. BOSS places it between the UOMP for Knights and FCOM_Archery.esp

huh odd, well i activated it and rebuilt the patch again, still no go. not sure why it isnt being listed in the load order as its right where its supposed to be

on that note its late and ive got work in the morning, thanks for the help everyone heres hoping i can get it to work tomorrow and not have to bug you all anymore =P

» Mon May 02, 2011 9:59 pm

huh odd, well i activated it and rebuilt the patch again, still no go. not sure why it isnt being listed in the load order as its right where its supposed to be

on that note its late and ive got work in the morning, thanks for the help everyone heres hoping i can get it to work tomorrow and not have to bug you all anymore =P

If you are crashing on startup of game then try NOT selecting import actor spells from FCOM_Convergence and rebuild patch. The start the game.

Or easier yet, deactivate bashed patch and see if game starts. If it does then try my suggestion for excluding fcom_convergence from import actor spells. This was a problem for me.

» Tue May 03, 2011 1:34 am

disabled bashed patch and the game started up, didnt try a new game, crashes when rebuilting path without fcom in spells

» Tue May 03, 2011 9:02 am

disabled bashed patch and the game started up, didnt try a new game, crashes when rebuilting path without fcom in spells

It will crash on startup if having Mayu's Skeleton tweaker selected in the Bashed Patch (Tweak Actors) w/o having the mod installed.

» Tue May 03, 2011 7:22 am

tweak actors isnt selected

» Tue May 03, 2011 8:31 am

tweak actors isnt selected

OK, so exactly where are we on this? Is the load order in the first post still valid? If not, repost your current one. It loads OK w/o the Bashed Patch but CTDs on startup with it? If so, double check everything in the Bashed Patch, i.e. the selections you've made.

» Mon May 02, 2011 11:29 pm

the very last load order i posted is valid, i am currently rebuilding the patch so cant copy it, when its done, if my new config dosent work, i will go over the fcom thread again and try rebulding the patch

so far ive un installed everything, downloaded all the mods fromt he fcom thread and reinstalled everything using obmm and bain.