» Sat Jan 04, 2014 12:32 pm Hi there,
I've recently begun a new install of Oblivion and have been looking forward to playing it heavily modded. I'm not new to mod installation, but I'm no expert either.
I've followed (to the best of my ability) the guide called "Knot's guide to a beautiful Oblivion".
I am currently in the section entitled "Immersion Mods" and the last mod I installed is Reneer's Guard Overhaul (i.e. I have followed the guide up to that point, but have not yet installed Elsweyr Anequina, Cava Obscura, and beyond).
I have been diligent throughout the process about archive invalidation using OBMM, altering the load order with BOSS, and rebuilding the Wrye Bash Bashed Patch. Following the instructions on that page, I have frequently started up a new game to see if it loads up, and it has without issue.
After the latest install, though, I decided to do a little running around rather than just load up the game to see if it loads. Here's where the problems start.
First off, I can't approach Cheydinhal without the game crashing. After doing a little Goggle searching on that topic, i found that it was prudent to see if I could still approach other cities, so for my next run I headed for Bruma. On the way, I saved often, and had a few crashes. However, upon reloading a game, I wouldn't crash in the same place twice. This suggests to me that some crashes are due to faulty spawns of some sort.
I eventually made it to Bruma and entered without problem (Open Cities). However, when I tried to go into the stable building outside the Bruma gate, the game crashed immediately.
That's where I am right now. I'm really looking forward to getting a game going, but I'm just not expert enough with this to know if there's anything in particular that's wrong with my install so far (I've added a few things aliong the way that aren't on that guide). So that's when I decided to post ehre and see if I couldn't petition the Oblivion Modding Gurus for their assistance in figuring out my issues.
Thanks for any help you can offer!
Here's my Wrye Bash mod list:
Active Mod Files:
00 Oblivion.esm
01 All Natural Base.esm [Version 1.34]
02 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm [Version 5.0]
03 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm [Version 5.0]
04 Tamrielic Ingredients.esm
05 Open Cities Resources.esm [Version 4.1.4]
06 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.35Beta]
07 Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.8b1]
08 FCOM_Convergence.esm [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]
** TNR - THE REDGUARDS.esp
** TNR - THE DUNMER.esp
** TNR - THE IMPERIALS.esp
** TNR - THE BRETONS.esp
** TNR - THE ALTMER.esp
** TNR - THE NORDS.esp
** TNR - THE ORCS.esp
** TNR ALL RACES FINAL.esp
** TNR - ShiveringIsles.esp
09 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.4.1]
0A UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp [Version 1.0.0]
0B DLCShiveringIsles.esp
0C Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.5.0]
0D SM Plugin Refurbish - SI.esp [Version 1.30]
0E Francesco's Creatures and Items Resources.esp [Version 5.0]
0F Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp [Version 5.0]
10 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp [Version 5.0]
11 Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp [Version 5.0]
12 Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp [Version 5.0]
++ FCOM_Francescos.esp [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]
++ FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]
13 FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]
14 Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp
15 All Natural.esp [Version 1.34]
16 All Natural - SI.esp [Version 1.34]
++ All Natural - MMM Patch.esp [Version 1.3]
17 Immersive Interiors.esp [Version 0.8.1]
18 All Natural - Real Lights.esp [Version 1.34]
19 Book Jackets Oblivion.esp
1A SMTXKhajiitPawsAsAbility_v04RMHGEC.esp
** VA_BetterGold.esp
1B Enhanced Economy.esp [Version 5.4.3]
1C Streamline 3.1.esp
1D Dynamic Map.esp [Version 2.1.1]
1E DLCHorseArmor.esp
1F DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]
20 SM Plugin Refurbish - HorseArmor.esp [Version 1.11]
21 DLCOrrery.esp
22 DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.3]
23 SM Plugin Refurbish - Orrery.esp [Version 1.11]
24 DLCVileLair.esp
25 DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]
++ SM Plugin Refurbish - VileLair.esp [Version 1.21]
26 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
27 DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4]
28 SM Plugin Refurbish - MehrunesRazor.esp [Version 1.30]
29 DLCSpellTomes.esp
++ DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1]
** Book Jackets DLC.esp
** EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp
++ MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp
++ CM_Better Wine.esp
++ CM_Better Wine_SI.esp
++ FineWeapons.esp
2A M.O.E. - New Staffs, Blight and Ashstorms.esp [Version 2]
++ M.O.E. - Unlocked Palace Guard Armour.esp [Version 1]
++ M.O.E. - Unlocked Glenroy and Captain Renault Blades Armour.esp [Version 1]
++ RustyItems.esp
2B DLCThievesDen.esp
2C DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]
2D DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp [Version 1.0.4]
2E SM Plugin Refurbish - ThievesDen.esp [Version 1.30]
++ FCOM_TamrielicIngredients.esp [Version 0.9.9]
2F Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp
30 FCOM_BobsArmory.esp [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]
31 Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp
++ FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp [Version 0.9.9]
32 Oblivion WarCry EV.esp [Version 1.09]
33 FCOM_WarCry.esp [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]
34 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.35Beta]
35 FCOM_Convergence.esp [Version 0.9.9Mb8b1]
36 FCOM_RealSwords.esp [Version 0.9.9MB8]
37 Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp [Version 3.8b1]
++ FCOM_LessReaversInGates.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - No Undead Rise.esp [Version 3.8b1]
38 Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Quest Locations.esp [Version 3.8b1]
39 Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp [Version 3.8b1]
3A Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp [Version 3.7b7]
3B Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp [Version 3.8b1]
3C Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp [Version 3.8b1]
** FCOM_FriendlierFactions.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.8b1]
** Fransfemale.esp
** EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4FCOM.esp
** EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer for OOO.esp
** EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4MMM.esp
3D Cyrodiil Transportation Network WZ OC.esp
3E 300_Regal_Imperial_City.esp
3F M.O.E. - Tools of Kagrenac - The Secret of White Gold Tower.esp [Version 6]
40 M.O.E. - The Black Sacrament - Night Mother's Ritual.esp [Version 2]
41 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
42 DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4]
43 SM Plugin Refurbish - Battlehorn.esp [Version 1.30]
44 DLCFrostcrag.esp
45 DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4]
46 OCOD+FrostcragSpire Patch.esp
47 SM Plugin Refurbish - FrostCrag.esp [Version 1.2]
48 Knights.esp
** Knights - Book Jackets.esp
49 Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.9]
** EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp
++ SM Plugin Refurbish - Knights.esp [Version 1.06]
4A OCC-KOTN-Patch.esp [Version 3.0]
4B Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp [Version 3.8b1]
++ FCOM_Knights.esp [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]
++ FCOM_SlofsHorses.esp
4C xuldarkforest.esp [Version 1.0.5]
4D xulStendarrValley.esp [Version 1.2.2]
4E xulTheHeath.esp
4F MMMMWL-TheHeath patch.esp
50 XulEntiusGorge.esp [Version 1.2.1]
51 xulFallenleafEverglade.esp [Version 1.3.1]
52 xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp [Version 1.2.2]
53 xulChorrolHinterland.esp [Version 1.2.3]
54 xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp [Version 1.6.5]
55 xulBravilBarrowfields.esp [Version 1.3.5]
56 xulLushWoodlands.esp [Version 1.3.3]
57 xulAncientYews.esp [Version 1.4.4]
58 xulAncientRedwoods.esp [Version 1.6]
59 xulCloudtopMountains.esp [Version 1.0.3]
5A xulArriusCreek.esp [Version 1.1.4]
5B xulPatch_AY_AC.esp [Version 1.1]
5C xulRollingHills_EV.esp [Version 1.3.3]
5D MMMMWL-RollingHills patch.esp
5E xulPantherRiver.esp
5F xulRiverEthe.esp [Version 1.0.2]
60 xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp [Version 1.1.1]
61 xulImperialIsle.esp [Version 1.6.8]
62 xulBlackwoodForest.esp [Version 1.1.1]
63 xulCheydinhalFalls.esp [Version 1.0.1]
64 xulAspenWood.esp [Version 1.0.3]
65 xulSkingradOutskirts.esp [Version 1.0.2]
66 xulSnowdale.esp [Version 1.0.5]
67 OOO-Snowdale Patch.esp
68 xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp [Version 1.1.3]
69 xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp [Version 1.0.4]
6A xulJerallGlacier.esp [Version 1.0.2]
6B xulTheEasternPeaks.esp [Version 1.1.4]
6C Open Cities New Sheoth.esp [Version 2.0]
6D Open Cities Classic.esp [Version 4.1.4]
6E Open Cities Outer Districts.esp [Version 4.1.4]
6F Open Cities new script for city doors.esp
70 OCC-OOO-Patch.esp [Version 3.0]
71 Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp
72 Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0]
++ Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.0.0]
++ Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp [Version 3.0.0]
73 Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp [Version 3.0.0]
++ Improved Fires and Flames - Increased Sound.esp
++ M.O.E. - Bone Names and Priced Skull.esp [Version 1]
74 M.O.E. - Disable Fast Travel.esp [Version 1]
75 M.O.E. - Lucien Lachance Rumors Fix.esp [Version 1]
76 M.O.E. - Lycanthropy and Lichcraft.esp [Version 7]
++ M.O.E. - Kill Martin and Jauffre.esp [Version 1]
77 P1DkeyChain.esp [Version 5.00]
++ M.O.E. - Alternative Script Effect Icon I.esp [Version 1]
78 SkipTutorialv3.esp
79 M.O.E. - Hunger Effects.esp [Version 1]
7A M.O.E. - Vampire Clan Raelu.esp [Version 6]
7B M.O.E. - Levitation Magic.esp [Version 1]
7C M.O.E. - Lock Spells.esp [Version 1]
7D M.O.E. - Mythic Dawn Powers.esp [Version 1]
7E RenGuardOverhaul.esp
++ Slof's Oblivion Better Beasts.esp
** Jjiinx_MorrowindStyleArgonians.esp
++ Better Looking Dark Elves.esp
7F Better Looking Redguards v2.esp
++ Better Looking Wood Elves Vanilla.esp
** All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp [Version 1.34]
80 Bashed Patch, 0.esp
edit: I've tried disabling Open Cities (and all the OC compatibility patches) and it seems to let me into the cities SOMETIMES. If I fast travel to a stable and just go right up to the gate and try to enter, I crash. However, if I SAVE before trying to enter, then after the crash when i reload and try to enter again, I enter the city just fine. I've tested this out with other cities too and it's the same every time... if I try to enter somewhere where a "load" screen has to come up, the game crashes, but when I reload the game to just before trying to enter, I can enter fine until the next time I try to go somewhere.
