I feel bad for killing dragons

Post » Mon Jun 11, 2012 7:38 am

Pathnx BBQ anyone?

mmm..mmmm… DIBS ON THE RIBS!!!
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natalie mccormick
 
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 10:18 pm

i thought they wanted to destroy the world?, or was that only that one [censored] dragon witch i wont name, seems only fair to kill them
Alduin The World Eater (referred to as Alduin Time-Eater in the five songs of King Wulfharth) devours the world at the end of each Kalpa, allowing the next Kalpa to commence.
The other dragons have an instinctual drive to power and domination, but it is only Alduin that is the World-Eater.
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Samantha Wood
 
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Post » Mon Jun 11, 2012 10:19 am

I also have to ask: when you kill a dragon and absorb their soul, is this drawing their power in and freeing their soul, so it finds peace in the ether (heavens)? or is it devouring the soul, and it disolves in searing agony inside your own soul or body(aka, the Dementors from Harry Potter)? http://nerdapproved.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/skyrim-dragon-comic.jpg?cb5e28

I believe that when the DragonBorn "devours" a dragon's soul the dragon's soul is no longer existent or it destroys that dragon (or at least that dragon can't come back to life anyway). it might be similar to sealing souls inside a soul gem. But I think the dragon's soul is destroyed.
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Post » Mon Jun 11, 2012 4:31 am

The only time I feel "sorry" for a dragon is when I kill it RIGHT after it had just been resurrected by Alduin. That has got to sting. Dead for hundreds of years, "OMG, I'M ALIVE AGAIN! Oh my god, Skyrim is still so beautiful. This is the world I remember. Oh, how I have missed it so." Then I come in - Fus Ro-dead dragon.

That's pretty much it.

I like fighting dragons. They are one of the hardest beasts to kill in Skyrim. I want that challenge. And it's no secret that I am Dovakhiin. Odavhiing said the dragons knew who I was and what I could do. So if they are cocky enough to want to fight me to the death, bring it on. I'll gladly reward their arrogance with my blade in their throats.

But I'm no bloodthristy killer. Would I entertain the idea of peace-talks with the dragons? Of course! For one, there is no way in HELL that I am going to
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kill Parthanax
. Hell.No. And if one
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dragon
can change the very nature of dragonkind, then it stands to reason that the other dragons can. If they want to live in peace, they are more than happy to. If they need a translator, for our language into dragon language, I know just the guy living atop the Throat of the World. Surpass the urges of your dragonblood if you want peace. If not, you can die a glorious death at my hand. The choice is theirs. Those who seek peace may have it; those who seek destruction shall receive it tenfold from the watchful protector of Skyrim, ME.
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Post » Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:25 am

Nope, as long as they're flying around destroying villages then I have no problem killing them.
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Post » Mon Jun 11, 2012 9:47 am

The only time I feel "sorry" for a dragon is when I kill it RIGHT after it had just been resurrected by Alduin. That has got to sting. Dead for hundreds of years, "OMG, I'M ALIVE AGAIN! Oh my god, Skyrim is still so beautiful. This is the world I remember. Oh, how I have missed it so." Then I come in - Fus Ro-dead dragon.

That's pretty much it.

I like fighting dragons. They are one of the hardest beasts to kill in Skyrim. I want that challenge. And it's no secret that I am Dovakhiin. Odavhiing said the dragons knew who I was and what I could do. So if they are cocky enough to want to fight me to the death, bring it on. I'll gladly reward their arrogance with my blade in their throats.

But I'm no bloodthristy killer. Would I entertain the idea of peace-talks with the dragons? Of course! For one, there is no way in HELL that I am going to
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kill Parthanax
. Hell.No. And if one
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dragon
can change the very nature of dragonkind, then it stands to reason that the other dragons can. If they want to live in peace, they are more than happy to. If they need a translator, for our language into dragon language, I know just the guy living atop the Throat of the World. Surpass the urges of your dragonblood if you want peace. If not, you can die a glorious death at my hand. The choice is theirs. Those who seek peace may have it; those who seek destruction shall receive it tenfold from the watchful protector of Skyrim, ME.

The problem with letting them live is that you can’t defend the world forever. They will outlive you without an effort and they can EASILY deny you battle while destroying the world. Either kill them while they are still arrogant and stupid or jeopardize the world by being the “good guy”.
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 10:26 pm

I have no desire to kill dragons. I like dragons. They are powerful symbols of wisdom and strength. I find it disappointing that Bethesda seems to paint all but one as one-dimensional villains who only exist to destroy the world. :( I only bought this game because I found out that if you do not do the main quest you will never have to fight one. So the only dragon my characters will ever see is the one that saves their life from the evil Imperials. You know, the ones who were going to chop our character's heads off for [censored] and giggles?

Agree completely. I am hoping for a friendlier dragon mod. My character was enthralled with the dragon that saved her life and now she wants to join with them. She is dragon-obsessed.

Or even better, a quest where you end up with your own dragon to ride! Oh, that would be joy...????
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Post » Mon Jun 11, 2012 7:31 am


Or even better, a quest where you end up with your own dragon to ride! Oh, that would be joy...????

Are you on a PC? I think there is already a mod that does that :)
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Post » Mon Jun 11, 2012 5:35 am

This is like feeling bad after killing some thalmor.
I feel bad for killing dragon befor I feel bad for killing a thalmor and anyway there only two cool dragon in the game I wont kill and that it.
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Post » Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:55 am

I kill all the dragons I can find without regret or guilt, they attacked me and villages thus they deserve it.
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 10:30 pm

In other Dragon lore it`s not unheard of for a dragon to fall in love with a human and vice versa.
Of course, such things are usually doomed to failure.

Some Dragons are downright evil, some good (in the minority) and some downright misunderstood. Main problem with Dragons is they have a huge ego and find it very hard to empathise with puny Men. It`s like a clash of a high and low culture. Why should Dragons even deign to understand people?

I have a book of Dragons (with nice art too) about all the different Dragon lores and types of Dragon. Many look similar to Skyrim Dragons.
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Post » Mon Jun 11, 2012 3:27 am

I love dragons and always have and yet love killing them in this game.

I like moving into the rp of the game and accept that in this world there is no option. Dragons are top of the food chain and have very little regard for anything else that lives in this world. We are all nothing but food on the table to them. I am the destroyer of dragons and love watching my blades cut them down.

More options for interacting with dragons would be nice and personally I believe they should be a lot harder to take down. The first time I faced Alduin I was quite shocked at how easy he was to slay, as a World Eater he had a small mouth .
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 9:49 pm

I agree with the OP. After a while I created a new character that never started the Main Quest in order to play without killing dragons. Much better experience.
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Post » Mon Jun 11, 2012 3:27 am

Let's see. Dragons enslaved humans. Humans free themselves after a war. Some humans (blades) eliminates all remaining dragons (this would have been a really wrong thing in the case of non berkserk omicidal ones).

Then you arrive to nirn (previous paragraph has really nothing to do with you). Every time you find a dragon, the dragon is trying to kill you (one exception, both ways). Every other aggresive creature in Skyrim warns you and attack if you approach too much. Dragons attack on sight.

I could understand you feeling bad for wipping peaceful creatures being them dragons or not, but feeling bad for killng a dragon that tryes to kill you the same moment you enter in it's sight area? I sometimes change my path to avoid killing creatures and NPCs warning me (bears, horkers, bandits...). It's their territory and I am the outsider. I didn't feel bad because I simply didn't have killed them. But dragons? they try to kill you the same moment they are aware of your existence. Why should you feel worse when you act in self deffence, than when you not?

You are feeling bad for killing the only creatures giving you no other choice, while I assume you are fine for killing fellow humans that warn you clearly to not approach more before starting a fight.

As I understand you feel bad because you think dragons are cool. Any other justification for your remorse makes no sense.
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Post » Mon Jun 11, 2012 1:46 pm

The problem with letting them live is that you can’t defend the world forever. They will outlive you without an effort and they can EASILY deny you battle while destroying the world. Either kill them while they are still arrogant and stupid or jeopardize the world by being the “good guy”.

Only problem with that is Paarthanax. He was a dragon living during times when there were no Dragonborn, and he only helped mankind. It may be a "good guy" thing to try and reason with the dragons, but to exterminate them all just because they MAY attack humanity again just makes humanity the villain and not worth saving to begin with.

One race is always going to attack another. That doesn't mean we should wipe them all out before they get the chance.
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Post » Mon Jun 11, 2012 7:56 am

Only problem with that is Paarthanax. He was a dragon living during times when there were no Dragonborn, and he only helped mankind. It may be a "good guy" thing to try and reason with the dragons, but to exterminate them all just because they MAY attack humanity again just makes humanity the villain and not worth saving to begin with.

One race is always going to attack another. That doesn't mean we should wipe them all out before they get the chance.

my thoughts exactly
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 11:36 pm

I found it hard to bring myself to kill such majestic creatures. Other than Alduin, I always fight Dragons with honor. And I never use that cursed 'Dragonrend' shout against them, I find it too cruel.
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Post » Mon Jun 11, 2012 3:11 am

You are feeling bad for killing the only creatures giving you no other choice, while I assume you are fine for killing fellow humans that warn you clearly to not approach more before starting a fight.
I completely disagree with that. Bears, wolves, and, saber cats attack me without any warning, I could just be minding my own business picking alchemy ingredients or something and suddenly out of no where I'm being attacked by a bear I didn't even know was there. Dragons don't always attack me on sight I've had dragons who just fly over me not doing a thing and people open fire on it and it just flys away. Not to mention other creatures attack completely without warning, the only ones I've noticed that don't are the giants and people even the mammoths will attack me from time to time I don't even mess with them. every battle I fight I have no choice but to fight, so saying that there's no choice but to kill every dragon you see isn't convincing to me.

does that mean they desurve to be wiped off the face of the Earth too?
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Post » Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:01 am

Only problem with that is Paarthanax. He was a dragon living during times when there were no Dragonborn, and he only helped mankind. It may be a "good guy" thing to try and reason with the dragons, but to exterminate them all just because they MAY attack humanity again just makes humanity the villain and not worth saving to begin with.

One race is always going to attack another. That doesn't mean we should wipe them all out before they get the chance.

Even if we look at Parthy, the best the dragons have to offer. All we see is a murderer, tyrant and enslaver who betrayed his brother for what looks like a good cause. Could be that he just got tired of being number two and decided to use humanity to fix that for him. He never made a grab for power because he KNEW Alduin would be back. It was Kynerath that taught humans dragon tongues not him, he just helped and wasn’t even there when humans brought down Alduin.

If eating dragon souls is wrong, then I don’t wana be right.
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Post » Mon Jun 11, 2012 1:23 pm

I play characters that don't like Paarth and don't mind him. I never understood the betrayal of his brother reasoning though. At least to him, Alduin's the one who betrayed Akatosh. He lost his way and purpose and declared himself a god. This is what ultimately pissed Paarthurnax off. It wasn't even about humans, necessarily.
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Post » Mon Jun 11, 2012 1:29 am

I realize that Dragons in the game will always attack you no matter if you're just walking around without a care in the world or looking for a fight (with the exemption of someone you meet later on), but I always feel bad for killing dragons. I guess it's because Dragons were hunted down to near extinction by people who believed that the only solution to the problem is to stick a sword through it and call it done. Whenever I end up killing a dragon I always feel bad for doing so mainly because I empathize with them enough to understand where they're coming from.
why is there no option to at least talk to them and figure out what exactly they want (even if it is the obvious answer of revenge). Does anyone else feel bad about the Dragons just a little bit? Or would you agree that the Dragons should be wiped out?
Different Dragons OP, the one's that were hunted to extinction were the normal Dragons, the one's in game are Alduin's soldiers, and they don't want revenge, they want what Alduin wants: to devour the world so that it can start anew again.
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Post » Mon Jun 11, 2012 12:23 am

I do, slightly, because I think that they are just so amazing. I took down two dragons at once, so I was proud of that, but still.
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Post » Mon Jun 11, 2012 1:49 am

I'm amazed the dragons inspire so much hatred. Yes they're tyrannical and domineering creature's whose very nature is to enslave and control. That's not to say they're not also worthy of respect. They seem to me to be a very beautiful and honourable race, regardless of their take on humanity. Does nobody else agree? If you had the choice between co-existance between humans and dragons, or total extinction of the dragons, would you honestly choose to kill them all? Seems barbaric, especially considering the capacity they have to change their ways, as shown in certain dragons in the past.

As for this 'If you don't like killing dragons, don't play the game' mentality... it's such a shallow response I'm amazed it even came up. As a gameplay mechanic, killing dragons is perfectly enjoyable. However, Elder Scrolls games aren't just about gameplay. They're also about roleplay. I am able to empathise with the dragons and pity their deaths - this doesn't mean I'm going to snap my Skyrim disc in two and set up a 'Save the Dragons' charity. Any character who takes as many lives as the Dovakhiin does throughout the game (human and otherwise) without any remorse is a cold-hearted bastard. Maybe that's the kind of character you like to play, and I can appreciate that. However, I like to play a character with some humanity. When he kills a Stormcloak soldier, he feels bad about it, since essentially that soldier was just an honest man fighting for his home. I find this empathy extends to the dragons. They are a race misled by Alduin into an evil fate. Killing them is a necessity, yes. But still a tragic one.
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 9:43 pm

It seems awfully shallow that they will still attack the player (who has already killed their very god) with no regard to their own well-being once the main quest is done. I think that they should be smarter than that and be non-hostile every once in a while, or even most of the time once the main quest is done. I don't like being forced to kill them because they always foolishly insist on attacking me, but there's not much of a choice because of this. I also heard that they are supposed to respect he/she whose Thu'um is the most powerful, which would definitely be the player once Alduin is gone.

I hope to be downloading a Mod To Fix It? soon, though. Anyway, I think I'll play the game now.

Edit: Actually, I guess they don't always attack, although it has happened before and after the main quest for me. I'm not sure if it's a glitch or not, but I guess it makes sense that way.
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 11:24 pm

I think all of you people who refer to dragons as magnificent creatures diminish them more than I could. lol.. Technically, they are creatures, but they're sentient, advanced people as well. They're not parrots. You talk about them like they're tigers in a zoo, which means you look down on them still. I recognize them for what they are.
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