I really dislike how Skyrim has been simplified. I now feel like Bethesda is treating me like a small child and it is spoiling what could have been the best game ever. Bethesda please from now give people the option at startup to play the game in simple mode and normal mode PLEASE!

If you don't mind the dumbing down, then the dumbing down was done for you

You are about a week too late, all the whining about the game having been simplified has been done already.

Less time number crunching so that more time is spent actually playing the game.

Simplified how? What exactly does the game do that make you think it's treating you like a small child?

Let's all take the Way-Back Machine to last week so this can feel like a fresh topic.

Also, making sweeping generalizations without providing any actual details makes your point sound intelligent and well-reasoned.

If you'll excuse me, I'm going to get back to having fun in Skyrim. Without spreadsheets.

i dont even understand the OP's post

move along everyone...

How? Play morrowind, and check the menu screens and how you made alchemy potions for example.

Making the menus easier to navigate, and making potion-making finally make sense may be simplifying, but that isn't even remotely the same as dumbing the game down.

Simple isn't always dumb. In fact, it's usually a lot smarter than complex.

i feel like dialouge is a bit poor for an advlt game i feel the target audiance is young teens, which is not good, that and the short often silly replys, that really dont define your character, they make me wince.
Did they look at the changes obsidian made to fo3 at all when making skyrim, i feel alittle misinformed as to the depth of certain unchangeable aspects of the game i think another year of dev would have been a good idea.

I'm actually a big fan of the writing this time around. And I'm not at all clear on what would make the dialogue "more advlt" for you. Are you just asking for more swearing?

I feel like I be treat like a baby too. I is a big boy now. I casts spells on my own. I know how to repares my armour. You aren't my real dad!! I hate you!

Lol, I'm just kidding.

simplified how? because they stripped away repair hammers n degrading items? it was a tedious chore to have to repair things constantly. having to rest in bed to level up was a good removal as well as i hated when i was in the middle of a quest n leveled up twice but it didnt count til i slept. the only thing i miss is spell crafting n more detailed quest updates, everything else is working for me

Yeah The UI could have been a bit more detailed. But IMO there is more story and content in TES V and a better environment then Oblivion could have ever dreamed. Even OBs map was to linear, I always knew where I was. In Skyrim Ther paths are everywhere and I have ran into all kinds of awesome things like Morrowind. I say Skyrim is the perfect balance of new school and old school gaming for all of us to enjoy. The game just needs some patches and fixes and it will be fine. Just one more complaint and I think most would agree. The Dunmer Females in the CC are crap, they look like beat up old hags and you can't fix them with the options.

no thanks, i like some of the wrighting, its mainly your replys that i hate mainly that or the complete lack of them. my character has yet to say anything clever or witty just a few silly one worders. maybe its just a matter of taste. but i find the lack of dialogue/options/depth irritating.

You do alchemy the exact same way.

Oh you mean, there are no lists to tell you the already explored formula? That's really advlt and complexity! :rolleyes:




No, really, be more specific.
What is dumbed down, and no, "attributes" is not a good answer, as you can do the exact same things already.

I do not miss the "Good, Evil or Snarky" options from Fallout. That whole system made it really clear that your dialogue was basically like choosing an alignment in D&D, which I still think is one of the stupidest RPG mechanics ever invented.

should try MUD games... multi user dimension

text only games which were out in the 90's.... that'll help you feel more of a genius to play.

I was addicted to it, was awesome to play.

but for now... this is the next level up. No complaints from me. I prefer to play the game instead of looking at stats all day.

Morrowinds UI seemed like a chore. I like Skyrims interface much more.

This is my question too. Do you think the game is too easy? If so try the difficulty slider. Do you miss having to spend time figuring out what skills you want to take instead of just using the ones you want? I don't get your complaint.

now shut up and go to your room! without dinner!

"Let me guess, did you lost your sweetroll again??"

Gear does not break/degrade.

Well the menus is not easier to operate. Picking up items with mouse is hard and scrolling down 50 items ... is not easy. It is tedious.

double post

- All magic tree's has been utterly murdered and the class of pure mage itself aswell and at higher levels severely underpowered and doesnt allow the player to utilize spells as they have been removed like earlier TES games.
- No attributes that made character creation challanging and adding depth.
- Quests are super simple and requires no real intelligence to complete at all. Unlike forexample Morrowind when u had to be at certain places at certain times or puzzles that were hard and might have required something.
- Blacksmithing, Enchanting & Alchemy is overpowered and makes the game waaaay too easy and something people are unaware of with their first characters. Cant blame the unknowing.
- Quests show you where to go and what you should do to complete them.

Skyrim is by far the easiest game in the series. I was hoping for a challenge but instead i got everything served on a plate.

Everything is simplified and i agree its sad that TES that was the RPG players retreat from the console generation action rpgs seems quite lost. Oblivion was a simplified Morrowind Especially quests and figuring out things in the game as they are pretty much just handed to you with quest marks and explanations.