Female Character DLC: A Girls-Eye View

Post » Tue May 17, 2011 3:30 am

Xena build for Heavy maybe: http://images1.fanpop.com/images/image_uploads/Xena-Dangerous-Prey-Season-6-xena-warrior-princess-1213297_912_1200.jpg
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David John Hunter
 
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 2:35 pm

Sheeva from Mortal Kombat build for Heavy. Though... Without the 4 arms and revealing outfit: http://gamesnet.vo.llnwd.net/o1/gh/131560-9.jpg


That's a medium, at best.
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Gemma Archer
 
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 11:04 am

Shojimbo: I DO love that female heavy.


Contact Splash Damage, seriously. As I said up-thread, I'd sign the petition. Brink and the Ark are all about diversity. A lack of females weakens that idea.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 12:45 am

That's a medium, at best.


I don't know what type of drugs you're taking. But if you think that's medium, you're sure taking something fierce. :spotted owl:

A Heavy women isn't going to look remotely the same as a Heavy man.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 4:26 pm

ATTENTION LADIES AND GENTLEMAN!!!!!! I HAVE FOUND US A HEAVY WOMAN!!!!

http://www.livingbeautifulradio.com/july26big.jpg

Lol that doesn't even look like a womens body
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 3:57 pm

"a man he can talk to who knows more about shooters."


.. I would very much like to sock this man in the face.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 3:25 pm

I think the Team Fortress style 'Heavy Female' is exactly what would fit into Brink, and the thread author agrees so stop posting pictures of muscular freaks.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 6:01 am

I don't know what type of drugs you're taking. But if you think that's medium, you're sure taking something fierce. :spotted owl:


The heavy male and heavy female have to provide the EXACT same hitboxes. A heavy male is about twice the size of that(in brink form).

This is a medium male. Much more like the size of the female in that picture. Are you on drugs??

http://cdn5.wn.com/vp/i/ee/d4f63d057e6c76.jpg
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 3:53 am

I don't know what type of drugs you're taking. But if you think that's medium, you're sure taking something fierce. :spotted owl:


Xena is something of a personal role model of mine. She started as a fluff character in Hercules: the Legendary Journeys, literally arm-candy to Kevin Sorbo's character, and grew into not only a great spinoff (which to my recollection was far more popular than the original show) but became a great character in her own right. Still, the battle of 'powerful woman' versus 'six sells' is obvious even there. The whole 'are Xena and Gabrielle mackin it?' debate reeked of misogynistic undertones. Now, I'm not a militant feminist by any stretch of the imagination, but that was a pretty brazen attempt to bolster the male audience at a strong character's expense (still, Lucy Lawless treated it pretty tastefully all things considered, thanks Lucy)
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 4:47 pm

BTW, even if the heavy female is like this - http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/7870/femaleheavy.png - and obviously isn't the exact same height/width as a heavy male then alter the attributes to suit accordingly, i.e. slightly less health but slightly quicker movement!

Very simple.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 10:56 am

The heavy male and heavy female have to provide the EXACT same hitboxes. A heavy male is about twice the size of that(in brink form).

This is a medium male. Much more like the size of the female in that picture. Are you on drugs??

http://cdn5.wn.com/vp/i/ee/d4f63d057e6c76.jpg


Agree to disagree then. Because I think you're completely wrong.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 10:46 am

ATTENTION LADIES AND GENTLEMAN!!!!!! I HAVE FOUND US A HEAVY WOMAN!!!!

http://www.livingbeautifulradio.com/july26big.jpg

Lol that doesn't even look like a womens body


Yes and I will be the soldier for that room that keeps throwing ammo at people from cover (crying mind you) because all the bullets keep bouncing off her chiseled abs. :cry: :gun: :sb:
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 3:46 pm

ATTENTION LADIES AND GENTLEMAN!!!!!! I HAVE FOUND US A HEAVY WOMAN!!!!

http://www.livingbeautifulradio.com/july26big.jpg

Lol that doesn't even look like a womens body


This isn't really in the spirit of the thread or particularly constructive ^_^;
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 5:06 pm

A heavy male in brink : http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110211200403/brink/images/8/89/Brink_heavy.jpg

The TF2 pic of heavy was much more applicable to this situation.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 2:14 pm

FYI: they can make more then 1 set of hit boxes. Other games in the past have done it just fine, (most likely) with little to no complaints from the community. Heck... Brink already has 3 hit boxes for the Light, Medium, and Heavy males. (Hit boxes aren't very hard to implement, something I've learned studying game design).
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 2:59 pm

I can't add much to this,you said it as it should be.

It's not a man's world,it's a human's world.Hopefully they can overcome this issue and add females characters not of six-oriented nature.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 2:10 am

FYI: they can make more then 1 set of hit boxes. Other games in the past have done it just fine, with little to no complaints from the community. Heck... Brink already has 3 hit boxes for the Light, Medium, and Heavy males. (Hit boxes aren't very hard to implement, something I've learned studying game design).


I think there's a lot of concern for the idea of balancing. The argument I generally see on the TF2 forums is that women are shaped differently than men (gasp!) and that a female target is very different to aim for. There are concerns for reduced body size resulting in an unfairly smaller hitbox. To be honest, this isn't even really a valid argument when you can pick your character's body size from a checkbox. A woman who is the size of the male 'light' model can have the same size silhouette through a scope, even if it's distributed differently. If you select the 'heavy' character, you don't expect your character to be small. I fail to see how 'reduced body mass' is a real argument.

I'm rambling. The point is, I agree.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 4:53 pm

My screenshot will probably fit here.. Let me just.. Yeah

http://i52.tinypic.com/2zhldo0.jpg - do they appeal to you, as a woman? :unsure2:

I think they looks nice, and I wonder what they'd look like in-game

But anyways.. Yeah, maybe would be nice if they could add ladies as a DLC, but that would be a wee bit much, no? Almost like adding the game to the game memory-wise? *Animations, Textures, Customization, Soundfiles

EDIT: So either we can hold our thumbs they might do something about the lack of women, or they could add them in a sequel if they will do that now, I think they said women-characters would be on the priority list then
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 8:41 am

It would probably be a more hopeful prospect to desire them in Brink 2.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 2:01 am

I have to say, I'm pretty tired of gaming with a bunch of guys all the time. We're just too predictable.

If Brink was a keg party, we'd all leave. Post-haste.


I really don't understand why Splash Damage went to all the trouble to make Brink the inclusive 'Multiplayer Shooter Anyone Can Play' and then told half it's potential market to embrace cross-dressing or buy Gears. Here's a game that says, we want you to learn to become a good FPS player, "enjoy these great multiplayer experiences" .... but NO CHICKS.

It doesn't make any sense.

Splash Damage will never say so, but I doubt we'll ever see female toons in DLC.

That's a shame, because we really need female FPS players, and with the interesting art direction and emphasis on teamwork, Brink really wants to be a pro-female game.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 1:02 pm

That's if Brink 1 does well.

It might flop and Brink 2 won't happen.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 4:16 pm

I have to say, I'm pretty tired of gaming with a bunch of guys all the time. We're just too predictable.

If Brink was a keg party, we'd all leave. Post-haste.


I really don't understand why Splash Damage went to all the trouble to make Brink the inclusive 'Multiplayer Shooter Anyone Can Play' and then told half it's potential market to embrace cross-dressing or buy Gears. Here's a game that says, we want you to learn to become a good FPS player, "enjoy these great multiplayer experiences" .... but NO CHICKS.

It doesn't make any sense.

Splash Damage will never say so, but I doubt we'll ever see female toons in DLC.

That's a shame, because we really need female FPS players, and with the interesting art direction and emphasis on teamwork, Brink really wants to be a pro-female game.


That's because men only mess with you on a physical level.
While women mess with you on both a physical and psychological level.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 11:11 am


Splash Damage will never say so, but I doubt we'll ever see female toons in DLC.

That's a shame, because we really need female FPS players, and with the interesting art direction and emphasis on teamwork, Brink really wants to be a pro-female game.


To be honest, I also think we wont be seeing them added through DLC anytime soon, my reasons: Alot of work, almost like doing the male-stuff all over again but harder, and memory (Animations, Textures, Soundfiles, Customization options)

I don't mean anything bad with this, but we don't need any specific gender, we don't need guys, we don't need women, we need players to play

So saying ''we really need female FPS players'' sounds a wee bit.. Weird, you know? :unsure2: but maybe that's just me
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 5:28 am

My screenshot will probably fit here.. Let me just.. Yeah

http://i52.tinypic.com/2zhldo0.jpg - do they appeal to you, as a woman? :unsure2:

I think they looks nice, and I wonder what they'd look like in-game

But anyways.. Yeah, maybe would be nice if they could add ladies as a DLC, but that would be a wee bit much, no? Almost like adding the game to the game memory-wise? *Animations, Textures, Customization, Soundfiles


As far as whether they're appealing, I'll say yes. They're models, they're supposed to be. My compliments to the art team, because that is the kind of attention to detail that can really sell up a sci-fi setting and make it believable. As for whether I think they'd make good female character models...err...well, let's say if they're genetically-engineered to be pretty, there's something to say for the frailty of beauty. I'm pretty sure if they ever entered a battlefield there would be a brief 'crunch' and everyone's favorite makeup model would be a fine red paste.

The technological issues are addressed all over the place, and the official stance is here:
Q: Will there be female characters in Brink?
A: In short: no. Like all developers, Splash Damage faced physical limits on what they could put into the game and had to make the "incredibly tough" choice between massively reducing the variety and quality of character customization in order to make room for new models/animations for female characters, or to keep to their vision of "deep and varied" character creation by focusing only male customization and make that the best they possibly can. "This was a very, very hard decision for us to make", Ham explains, "but we feel that it was the right one for the overall quality of the game."


It wasn't my intention to complain about engine limitations, and I admit I got a little sidetracked. I had intended to gather support and show the developers that we're happy with Brink, but hope for female character options in either this or future games. It's obviously an issue which is close to peoples' hearts.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 3:21 pm

I think we get plenty of female FPS players, but not always ones who can express themselves in-game via female characters.
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