There is an issue we may not be looking at- we're talking about records that are over 200 years old, and that was heavily classified by the US Government.

Most info stored on the terminals would've been wiped from the Nuclear bombs (they create a EMP wave that overloads electronics in the area, permanently disabling them.) Anything on paper would have to have been stored in a relativly dry area, safe from local pests, otherwise there'd be little left of it after 200 years. Filing cabinents, even secure ones, are not moisture controlled and can easily be penetrated by bugs, mice, etc. Holodiscs, i'm not so sure of. They look like they run on a similar basis to cassettes; if this is the case, most would be wiped due to that EMP wave. And the usual procedure to classified documents is to burn/erase them so the enemy can't get a hold of them when faced with the need to vacate a base or sensitive area.

So if there were records that there were other storage areas for the FEV, it's quite likely they could have been destroyed before anyone could find it.

FEV was a "secret weapon" first ruel of secret weapons is keep them secret. Have a public FEV test vault doesn't coninside with it staying secret. Generally super secret government project have one location. The mere fact that the Enclave have to break in to take the samples should suggest that it was the only place that had it.

There is an issue we may not be looking at- we're talking about records that are over 200 years old, and that was heavily classified by the US Government.

Most info stored on the terminals would've been wiped from the Nuclear bombs (they create a EMP wave that overloads electronics in the area, permanently disabling them.) Anything on paper would have to have been stored in a relativly dry area, safe from local pests, otherwise there'd be little left of it after 200 years. Filing cabinents, even secure ones, are not moisture controlled and can easily be penetrated by bugs, mice, etc. Holodiscs, i'm not so sure of. They look like they run on a similar basis to cassettes; if this is the case, most would be wiped due to that EMP wave. And the usual procedure to classified documents when you need to hastily vacate the premesis is to burn/erase them so the enemy can't get a hold of the information.

So if there were records that there were other storage areas for the FEV, it's quite likely they could have been destroyed before anyone could find it.

Actually, EMP destroys transistors and PCBs. Machines in Fallout were all vacuum-tube based, so they would be immune to EMP. Plus, F1 is set 80 years after the war, not 200.

It depends on if you think breaking canon means including something that is not mentioned, or doing something that is contraray to established story. To me if there is nothing in canon taht contradicts the new story, then it's ok, because no baseline has been established in that instance.

Then again, i don't place much importance in franchise canon as long as each game is consistent within itself.

it really only suggests that the enclave only knew about one place.


also, even with secret weapons, you need more than one batch to experiment on/with.. a controll run and runs with variables.
not only for the FEV but for the subjects its used on..

as far as the whole holotpe not disclosing anoher location, it bering a secred weapon does apply.
if you had a secret weapon, i shoudlnt think you would keep all of your eggs in one basket. rather youd have a few locations, but no information linking the two (or more) places... in the event of oneplace being found out, you wouldnt give the "enemy" a map to the other locations.




regardless. im asking for something aside from spectualtion.
proof

Well for one, you don't need separate geographical locations to have more than one batch to experiment with or subjects to experiment on. Rooms or buildings work well. And with a secret weapon, ideally you want to keep its existence confined to one place. FEV's presence in Fallout 3 was a rehash, but it was bit of a bother to see Vault-Tec doing FEV research in a vault on the East Coast (why not a Vault closer to West-Tek if it has to).

its my hypothesis that there isnt...
but i would love someone to prove me wrong with facts

If there were facts that there weren't FEV test sites besides Mariposa then Bethesda probably wouldn't have included Vault 87 as an FEV Vault in Fallout 3.

If there were facts that there weren't FEV test sites besides Mariposa then Bethesda probably wouldn't have included Vault 87 as an FEV Vault in Fallout 3.

Haha, I doubt that. We needed our Orc opposition. And there's still no need for their to be two or more research facilities, if you're experimenting on people and need to know how it'll affect New Yorkers...you can just bring them to the facility. And one place is far easier to secure than many. Still don't know why Vault-Tec was chosen to do it, they could easily have thrown a West-Tek lab in.

As Ausir has stated, the only two pre-war locations of FEV were West Tek, and then Mariposa. Mariposa was the only source of post-war FEV.

This is what has been established in both the Fallout Bible, and the Fallout Timeline.

That wiki is an awesome thing, has this search ability I hear.

i am not the one claiming that vault 87 is out of cannon, or that it cant possibly be because all of the FEV ever was in mariposa.. so the burden of proof isnt upon me. that was a nice try, though......

besides,I have been looking thought both the vault wikia and the Fallout bible duck and cover anyway.

Well you were told where to find the info, so not sure what your demand for written proof was for - so hence the search. Vault 87 is in canon now, thanks to Bethesda, whether or not it makes sense in the game's lore is another issue (had to have it though, we needed SMs and FEV to relate to the older games, heh). While there's no explicit statement that FEV only existed at West-Tek and was moved to Mariposa, it does seem logical that it's true.

The West Tek Research Facility starts working on a new virus to kill the New Plague. Their viral research and close ties to the federal government eventually lead to them being chosen for the Pan-Immunity Virion Project twenty years later as well as Power Infantry Armor and laser research
QUOTE (Fallout Timeline, 2073)
September 15: As China becomes increasingly aggressive with their use of biological weapons, the United States government felt that a countermeasure was needed. The Pan-Immunity Virion Project (PVP) is officially formed and plans are made to begin experiments at the WestTek research facility in Southern California
QUOTE (Fallout Timeline, 2075)
March 21: PVP experiments continue at West Tek with batch 10-011, in the wake of successful tests of the virus on single-celled organisms. Experiments on plant cells are postponed. The pan-immunity virion is renamed FEV - the Forced Evolutionary Virus.
May 9: FEV experiments continue at West Tek with batch 10-011, in the wake of successful tests on flatworms, the flatworms exhibit increase size and heightened resistance to viral contagions. Experiments with insects have less success, and further experimentation on insects is postponed by Major Barnett.
June 30: FEV experiments continue at West Tek with batch 10-011, with white mice as subjects. Increased size, muscle density, and intelligence are noted.
November 9: FEV experimentation (batch 10-011) on rabbits is concluded. Increased size, intelligence, and (this time) aggressiveness is noted. Apparently, it was hard to determine whether the flatworms in the previous experiments were angrier and more violent than normal. Frankly, the researchers cannot be blamed for this.
QUOTE (Fallout Timeline, 2076)
April 15: Once all secondary tests and studies are done on the test subjects, all dogs from the batch 11-101a FEV tests at West Tek are terminated...from a safe distance
QUOTE (Fallout Timeline, 2077)
January 7: Major Barnett orders transfer of all FEV research to the newly-constructed Mariposa Military Base, despite objections by the research team

like i said, ive been looking in those places, and i cant find it..
but before you even clicked on this link you should have read "proof?" which notes im asking for it.
i also mentioned that i dont believe there is any, which means i may have looked before even asking


of course its much easier to say "Look for it your self" when you dont know the answer

Well if you look above, that's some decent proof from the canon. Heh, I'm reminded of Rummy's quotes about the absence of evidence - maybe the Master did clone himself and send his clone to Florida. After all, it's not stated he never did it.