If the enclave had succeeded in launching their strain of FEV into the stratosphere, how would things have been different?



Considering that every plant and animal that had been exposed to radiation would ahve mutaed DNA, wouldnt the entirety of the US (and most likely most of the world) be effectively setrilized of life? Consideringthat FEV would then be in the watershed, and leak intot he oceans, could it not be said that all life would becoem extinct?
Given that there is naturally occouring mutation in every species, could it also be said that even the Enclave themselves would die off, eventually?


I am sure theres a lot on both sides of this that I am not factoring in, so let's hear it!

The FEV Curling 13 virus has no effect on plant or animal life (non-humaniod), so the earth would not be completely sterilzed.

Everything would have died. Enclave come off their Rig because they are inoculated against their virus. They use Gecks and build their America/World.

Yeah it only effects humanoid life, garunteed; anyone not inoculated experiences a "burning" sensation (quite a terrible one too) before dying. After that, what Styles said, rebuilding.

I thought after the fact about it only being humanoid.

figured this would ahve been more of a convo topic, alas theres no need to continue it.

Unfortunately, for conversation purposes, the effectiveness of the Curling-13 isn't really questionable. It's use obviously has two very distinct (one being mostly predominant) sides but the "means" of the "end justifies the" really has no dividing ground; it would work, was perfect and only hours away from initial deployment.

I don t think it would have been as effective as some others belive.

They did no testing to see how it would work in the jet stream. Wiki says the plan was to kill all infected humans on the mainland not the world ( world impossilble ) (all of U.S. doubtful). So unless in game Curling says "world" I don t even think the Enclave was foolish enough to think it would float around the world in the jetstream and kill every humanoid on earth.

So this really blows the your main proof on why Enclave didn t retreat to remote sections of the world in 2077.

Not only would the chances of it being a world wide killer with 0 testing on how it would work in the jet stream be under 1 percent, wiki dosen t say one single thing about world it says mainland. lol

Even that would be a very tall glass to order with 0 jetstream testing.

And you guys say fo3 writing is bad and senseless.

Enclave would have been lucky if it got out of the local area. terrible

It would have made its way into "nook and cranny on the planet." So yeah it would have killed everyone on the planet.

"The only way for true humans, and democracy, to be safe is to cleanse the mutants from the globe. We humans will take back that which is rightfully ours." President Richardson.

Enclave have access to super computers so its safe to say they ran tests using it.

Funny how nothing here is backed up by anything. I see no reason why it wouldn't have worked, as I have already pointed out the previous example fo FEV spreading through the air in Fallout 1; you are bringing this up to continue to propogate your "Around the World" theory, which I will destroy now by saying that in any event the Enclave on the Oil Rig thought that it would work.

You have no legitimate reason to say that it would fail and just want to cling to the Enclave on the Moon or where-ever. Terrible.

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Go to a search engine type in Curling fev 13 virus That will take you to wiki. Notice I said wiki in my post.

I wouldn t beleive a pres. politicians talk with out knowing all the time.

Now if Curling said it in game I d be more likely to believe the guy that made it.

Still hard to believe it would get in every nook and cranny in the world.

It sounds really impossible........ I don t think it could have happened

So you are going with the bible again :rolleyes:

Richardson has no reason to lie. It does say the virus will go around the world in the game.

Don't want to believe it fine but I really don't see why you would not.

I m getting that game first I ve my pc lined up to get worked out cheap. Thats why its taking a while for the guy to get to me cheap isn t fast. I ll try to pretend I never played fo3 or had any of these discussions.

There has got to be damn good proof that a virus put in the jet stream would go all around the world and fall out of the jet stream all around the world for me to come even close to believing it. It sounds too far fetched.

I went by wiki, wiki does not say world it say mainland.

Richardson was probably posturing to look hard when he said that.

Avellone worked on that game, then he wrote that line.

Why would he go against a game he worked on?

I think he wrote that so a writer could pull Enclave out lat

No offence but [censored] wiki. The game says it, so it the case. Richardson had no reason to lie. Chris Avellone has made mistakes before. It could just say mainland as to apply to America. No need to say world because Fallout only takes place in the United States. Anyways the Game says it will go around the world. Jet Steam does go around the world. Why would the Virus just stop at America?

Why are you arguing this fact? Is it that other bases theory again? We can assume that everyone that tells us anything is lying.

I ll see how believable it is when I play it.
The thread is about how do we think it would work. I don t think it could work that good. They d have to have a ton of that stuff. Real life viruses that we weaponize don t even cover close to that much ground.

And Yeah I like to think the Enclave COULD be out there somewhere for fo 8. It makes me feel better inside.

They very well could have had tons of the stuff.

I am kinda getting tired of "well wiki says" or "the Fallout bible says." The Games trump the Fallout Bible and the man that wrote it feels it should not be considered canon. The wiki is also just peoples opinions as well unless there is a foot note or is common knowledge. I should not have to say it but wiki is not canon. Its just a place for everything Fallout, canon or not.

It may not be believeable to you. Its not believeable to me the BoS were able to get Optimus Prime up and running using wasteland crap while the entire united states government and Mr.House could not. Does not mean I am not saying Optium Prime isn't Canon.

You love fo3 inside. lol

What? I like Fallout 3 for what it is. Not sure what it is... I my opinion its not a great Fallout game. So I don't love it as a Fallout game. Its on the bottom of my list.

I am just saying that it is Fact that the FEV would have gone around the world. Its talked about in the game. Does not matter what wiki says or what was writen in the Fallout bible years after Fallout 2.

Hey, something that would have or could have it not fact, because it didn t happen.

It is Fact that it would have killed everyone on the planet. They could have had tons of the stuff. They have use of ZAX super computers so they could have ran simulations on it. Richardson had no reason to lie. How do we know there was ever a Brotherhood of Steel Paladin named Jacob? Becames Marcus tells us? I can easly say he is lying.

Its a Fact. I am also getting sick of people taking wikipedia word and the Fallout Bible over the games! "Some guy that never played Fallout 2 wrote this about Fallout so it must be true " The same wikipedia that calls all the fallout survival horror :brokencomputer:

Ok this will take more than one post since I can t add and edit on ps3

I looked for 3 hrs to find definitive studies or scientfic speculation about how this would could work. What I found out is startling and scarey.

I looked on a plethera of sites to get good speculation under the search ( effects of introducing biological warfare or viruses into the "jetstream" )

The starteling part is that these studies on this has been going on since the 50s. Conspiracy theries on what it has grown to now is out of control, but not unbelievable.

The Japs seem to have started studies during wwll, they have been credited with killing over 440,000 Chinese with the bobonic pleage, and anthrax in local areas by dumping it from planes in local areas. This is confermed history.......

It is comman knowledge that they did release many ballon firebombs into the jetstream in hopes of them landing here. Several of them did make it, but not the mass amount they were looking for. They planed of useing biowarfare....

They wanted to use biowarfare against us using ballons in the jet stream and planes to infect local areas.

Fast forward to present time it is widley beleived that the only way to do something like the Enclave were planning is to be able to control weather. Either make it rain to bring the virus out of the jet stream in full force, or the use some of Telsa s research to bring the jet stream much lower.

To control weather, people would need devices all over the world to make the this happen on a world wide scale. The lingo and tech jargon I didn t write down, because its not important. What is important is that it is believed that it can be done. The U.S. is thought to be one of the world leaders in experimenting in man made weather. UAVs are needed in the areas they want to control weather.

The best theory for controling weather world wide is to use satellites to send signals to devices all over the globe to achieve this. A network around the world on the ground would be needed.

You are forgettting something, "Science!"

Its the same universe were Radiation makes Ghouls. FEV is not just a virus its a chemical as well.

In another post you said they had no way to test it. They have super computers!

Its a Fact. If you don't want to believe it fine.

Um... who do you think told the President?

Well point is that to do it you need a world wide network to control weather, and it can t be done from one place.

I believe it can be done. Enclave had to have the info, and the tech, even control of prewar satellites. Thing is they would need a world wide network to achieve this.

Hey don t get mad at me because I spent 3 hrs looking at 15 sites to find out how and if it could be possible.

It is thought to be possible, but it doesn t matter if its 1942 or 2142 you can t control weather to achieve what they had planned without a world wide network. Satellite countrol is not enough there have to be units on the ground or flying neat the ground where you want this to happen.

Almost everything in fallout could happen by using todays logic. FEV its self it more believeable that you think. Some countries are beening accused right now of making biological agents that target cellular dna of certain races. Alot of this again comes from conspiracy theorists.