The lore forum is a giant spoiler.

This wasn't in the Lore forum a few minutes ago...

Anyway Talos is a god that can't be questioned. The Thalmor however want to destroy the god and the way to do that is to stop worship of him.

I'm positive Talos is the one who keeps sending me those letters on the locations of word walls.(The "Friend" not the courier.)

The thalmor are pretty much out to get Lorkhan;

but do they really have to get rid of Sep, Sheor, Shor, Talos all at once?

Does this amount to having no more worshipers will kill Lorkhan ?

From what I understand Talos is basically the acting Lorkhan/Shor guy. With all the towers falling apart, he is basically the thing that keeps the realm together. He is what makes life and Mundus possible. If he is removed then the stability of Mundus will be gone and the Thalmor can unmake the world.

No, she's not. How can you play as Khajit, Argonian or even Aldmer or Orc if you're a lost Septim sibling ?That would also contradict the de facto ES rule in which the player has no known past before the game, allowing you to imagine whatever you want about that. So you can say your character is a lost Septim, but Bethesda will never do that.

Don't forget Cyrodiil being a forest. Used to be a jungle before Talos came along.

Korr, I'm not going to tell you what you should and shouldn't like, but know that gods and religion are a very important part of TES. And Talos forced his way into being a god. Don't believe the doctines where the Eight Divines made him a god. Heck, him being a backstabbing bastard is one of the reasons he is a god.

Skyrim is set 200 years after Oblivion. If you were a lost Septim you would be the descendant of Martin's illegitimate child. Since in Elder Scrolls lore the offspring of any couple takes the appearance of the mother, Martin could have produce the child with any race and the child would be that race while still being a Septim. Of course I personally don't believe the Dragonborn is a Septim I'm just saying it is possible.

I have read the enitre thread and, seriously what spoilers?
There are no spoilers in this thread, at least before your post.
If people want to know zero about the game they should not come to the official forum.
If people do visit the official forum they should not complain about people discussing the game.
A spoiler is when you print how a questline ends or what a twist in a plot is.
Nothing like that was printed here.

I don't think it's even that. Martin, on his perch from Eternity that allowed the day, tells us in no uncertain terms that he is/was in fact, the last of the Septims.

Not to mention that claiming Septim-descent in this day and age is just twinky and rather gauche.

I don't think the Thalmor dispute that Talos is or was, momentarily, a god. But they want to change that, and to do so they have to ban his worship. Worship and belief is vital for his existence. Thus, they spread propaganda that Talos is a lie and should not be part of the pantheon.

Hmmmm...the Septim line had Dragon Blood. You are Dragon Born. Your descendants will have Dragon Blood but will not be Dragon Born because Akatosh is not their daddy but their grand daddy.

Anyway, as others have mentioned, the Thalmor wants to pull the plug on the world and Talos prevents them from doing so and thus they need to discredit him as a god. The ironic bit is that by this very act, they acknowledge his existence which is the same as believing in him and so are doomed to fail by their own hand. My opinion anyway.

the Thalmor must both destroy Talos and the human races to gain immortality.

There's speculation that this is how they will retcon the Civil War. Consider this, the image of Tiber Septim was really two people: Hjalti the brilliant tactician and Wulfharth, a storm-shouting Shezarrine Thu'um master. They set out to unite Tamriel under one banner and become known as Talos (but only as one individual), which means Stormcrown in Nordic. In Skyrim, the province of Skyrim or the Empire has to be united, depending on which side you take. Each side has a tactician, one is named Tullius, the other Stormcloak. If that was accidental, I'll eat my world.

Suddenly, a wild storm-shouting Thu'um-inator appears!

We don't know if the Dragonborn is a Shezarrine, but you definitely fit the bill for Wulf's role. This is all speculation, but if the devices I listed play out, then you have effectively mantled Talos with whichever leader you've mentioned and united Skyrim--independently or alongside the Empire. I have a feeling that, historically, the side you choose won't matter. History will forget the details, or a Warp in the West-style Dragon Break could occur, however unlikely.

To me it seems that the Thalmor leaderhsip might know, but if they destroy all evidence of it and make every common mer forget then eventually their knowledge may not be enough to keep Talos together, or perhaps if it is they are just counting on themselves dying one day and the new guys not knowing what's going on and really believing Talos to be a fake god.

I think its pretty much accepted that the Dovahkiin is a Shezzarine, even though this goes against the whole "dragonborns are the blessed of Akatosh." My theory is that Shor decided to steal Akatosh's power and send you down to save mankind. Lorkhan and Akatosh are the same deity, of course. (:

What needs to be remembered is that there are many beings in TES that can be referred to as "gods", and said status does not always grant permanency or universal legitimacy, as the Tribunal were unmade (although mere death may be insufficient to "erase" him). Just as it is possible to call the Tribunal liars and false gods, it is possible for the Aldmer to level the same complaints at Talos, given that he is a being who is neither Aedra nor Daedra, and thus would not be regarded as a god by the practices of meric ancestor worship. While Talos possesses CHIM, which grants him near-infinite power, this may also prove the key to erasing him, as I suspect that causing him to zero-sum would be a sufficient condition to "erase" him.

Talos is effectively Lorkhan, since he is the oversoul of three Mantles of Lorkhan (Tiber Septim, Wulfharth, and Zurin Arctus), and therefore he binds Mundus together as the Hub of the Wheel. The Thalmor simply want to make it so that everybody believes Talos is just plain old regular mortal, and through TES Tulpa, that will actually happen, the hub will be undone and Mundus will be unraveled allowing for the Altmer to reascend to take the godhood Lorkhan "stole" from them.

There is no Talos, only Lorkhan.

That is not entirely true. Yes, Talos is an avatar of Lorkhan but he is not Lorkhan.

Talos is effectively Lorkhan as he is composed of three Mantles of Lorkhan. He is the Hub of the Wheel and binds Mundus together, hence the Thalmor want to remove him and all his worshipers from the equation so that Talos will no longer be considered a god, he will stop being one, and then creation itself will unravel and the Altmer can reattain their godhood.

Sheor est mort; Vive le Sheor!

Well, OP, considering the Thalmor's entire foundation of power is built upon a heap of lies... that they'd lie about Talos is completely unsurprising.

The Thalmor are lying about Talos being a false god. They are doing so as a means to an end, which, to me, seems to be the apocalypse. Which to them apparently means godhood. The Thalmor are following in the footsteps of the Dwemer, except they're trying to take the world down with them, out of pure hatred and arrogance. And eliminating Talos is the first step to achieving this goal. It just doesn't seem likely they're going to succeed. In Morrowind, we meet Talos on our way to the Ghostgate, as the avatar Wulf. He is very much real, and an important part in the foundation of Mundus.

Eh, humans need examples to set themselves up against so they can become better people. The fact the Thalmor deny people the right to do so is enough to kill them.