1. The Elder Scrolls.

There are several of them on Nirn and some people have the ability to interpret them. And seeing as they are a veritable tapestry of fate, I'd say that Tiber Septims ascent to godliness would be recorded on them somewhere.

I'm aware that the Thalmor use the ban on Talos worship as a means to weaken the empire, but seeing as the Aldmarri Dominion are probably arrogant to believe their own BS, the Elder Scrolls would cause their reasoning for the White-Gold Concordat's Talos ban to lose any and all legitimacy.

2. The Talos Shrines

As many people know, those who pay at Aedra shrines receive a 'boon' from the gods. So the mere fact that a boon is received at a Talos shrine, the same as any other shrine, is proof of Talos' status.

3. Martin Septim's ritual.

As many know, for Martin to open the gate to Mankar Camoran's paradise he required the blood of a Divine, and the blood of Tiber Septim, taken from a scraping of his old armor, worked.

4. Proof

Just as the Thalmor may claim that there is no proof that Talos is a god, they have no proof that he isn't other than a self-righteous notion that it's inconceivable for a human to be granted godhood before one of the mighty high elves.

All the evidence I needed was meeting him in Morrowind.

All that matters is there is Lorkhan.

I don't care about gods either way. Maybe if they gave me some good loot. I dunno. They barely do that even. Even the daedra svck at that.

As for Talos, I probably AM Talos. And I still don't care.

Wait.. What? You meet Talos in Morrowind?

I DO NOT REMEMBER THIS.

The Dragonborn being the reincarnation of Talos would be an interesting twist.

Or maybe him being an unknown descendant from the Septim bloodline. Even if Martin was the last known Septim, over the ages there could have been other illegitimate children that never got the recognition Martin did. Or perhaps Martin conceived a child during his wild youth as a Sanguine worshiper and never knew about it.

Imperial Cult questline.

No, in that one oyu meet Mara.

You can (its a hidden optional) meet Talos in Ghostgate just before the final quest in the Main Questline.

Just looked it up, that guy in ghostgate was an aspect of Tiber Septim all along? Like holy [censored], I had actually no idea.

He's under the alias 'Wulf', isn't he?

This belongs in zee lore forum.

To be fair this was skyrim specifc regarding the thalmor's banning of Talos, but we kinda derailed it a bit.

Ahhh, now I remember. Only ever remembered to meet him twice in the game.

Sure, but Oblivion and Morrowind specific stuff get's put there to. If it's lore, it goes there.

Being able to receive his blessing was enough for me. I kill thalmor on sight.

I'm not so sure whether Talos really is or is not a god is the point. I think the point is that they just want him gone and forgotten.

This is what my first playthough was. Even named him Talos. He will use all the guilds he leads and the stormcloaks to create a new empire.

interesting idea

Thalmor KNOW that he is a god, so you sort of missed the point. Thalmor want to unmake the world and Talos is doing all he can to hold it together. According to lore, gods gain a lot of strength from worshipers, thus forbidding warship of gods makes them weaker. How they plan to actually finish him off or temporarily banish/bind him when he is weak enough is beyond me.

WATCH THE SPOILERS PLEASE.

Thankyew verruh much.

I do not think the Thalmor are ignorant enough to believe their own propaganda, and thats exactly what it is. They have their own racial/ideological/religious reasons to try and sweep Talos under the rugs of history but they know he is real as does everyone else. There is no dispute over the existence of gods, only their names and purposes perhaps for those who don't interact with mortals as frequently.

So, i've got to thinking, mabye I'M Talos, and I just don't know it yet! But my mind is more preoccupied on the warriors from Hammerfell, with their curved swords. Curved. Swords. Their lucky I don't get nervous; men approaching with their weapon drawn. But all that changed when I took an arrow to the knee. Ah, well, better get back to my duties. Gotta stop some criminal scum.

I don't think it's necessarily propaganda. They might believe it. Some of them sound like religion is the most important thing to them. And in some respects, it's a questionable idea that mortals become gods. If that's the lore and all that, so be it. I personally think it's a stupid one though. There's nothing that remarkable about the original Talos that sets him apart from other champion-like characters. There are even stories where he's a very down-to-earth, self-serving type of bastard. If he still managed to become a god, good for him, I guess. He "won the game" he was playing in a big way. It doesn't mean I have to fight to the death to worship him. Worship is a weak concept to me in general. I don't want to worship anyone, and the less I have to think about Tamriel's religion, the better. But if I was a Thalmor specifically, I'd find the whole idea fishy from their perspective.

The Thalmor most likely see their own views as superior to the Elder Scrolls.

Hence why they'd want those destroyed.

The Thalmor have their own version of how the Oblivion crisis ended, in which they take all the credit.


They know Talos is a Divine, but the gods' power comes from belief, so they're trying to strip the God of Man of his power.