So few mods, why can't it load?

Post » Tue Nov 30, 2010 9:58 am

I hate creating a thread asking for people to look over my load order, but Oblivion will not load past the first Bethesda Logo or the initial load screen to bring up the title.

I just reinstalled Oblivion as well as some old mods I used to play on. I didn't think any of these were known to be incompatible and I have experience with installing mods.

Here is the load order.

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Oblivion.esm
Kvatch Rebuilt.esm
Better Cities Resources.esm
CM Partners.esm
Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm
DLCShiveringIsles.esp
Better Cities .esp
HUDI.esp
Kvatch Rebuilt - OOO Compatibility.esp
Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp
_Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp
Elves Of Lineage II.esp
CM Partners.esp
CM Partners Special NPCs.esp
CM Partners NPC.esp
CM Partners More NPCs.esp
CM Partners Marker NPCs.esp
CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp
KT_CustomRaceFix.esp
Better Cities Full.esp
Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp
Better Imperial City.esp
Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp
Better Cities Full FPS Patch.esp
Better Cities - No LEYAWIIN Flooding.esp
Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp
Streamline 3.1.esp
OOO-Water_Weeds.esp
Harvest [Flora].esp
Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp
Living Economy.esp



I use Oblivion Mod Manager, OBSE, BOSS, and Wyre Bash and consider myself at least slightly competent with modding, but I've never had this problem before.

Thanks!
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Noraima Vega
 
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Post » Tue Nov 30, 2010 3:10 pm

is that sorted by boss? streamline should be loading last, also living economy is pretty much superceded by enhanced economy now, get that instead.
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Post » Tue Nov 30, 2010 4:51 pm

I hate creating a thread asking for people to look over my load order, but Oblivion will not load past the first Bethesda Logo or the initial load screen to bring up the title.

I just reinstalled Oblivion as well as some old mods I used to play on. I didn't think any of these were known to be incompatible and I have experience with installing mods.

Here is the load order.

Spoiler



Oblivion.esm
Kvatch Rebuilt.esm
Better Cities Resources.esm
CM Partners.esm
Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm
DLCShiveringIsles.esp
Better Cities .esp
HUDI.esp
Kvatch Rebuilt - OOO Compatibility.esp
Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp
_Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp
Elves Of Lineage II.esp
CM Partners.esp
CM Partners Special NPCs.esp
CM Partners NPC.esp
CM Partners More NPCs.esp
CM Partners Marker NPCs.esp
CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp
KT_CustomRaceFix.esp
Better Cities Full.esp
Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp
Better Imperial City.esp
Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp
Better Cities Full FPS Patch.esp
Better Cities - No LEYAWIIN Flooding.esp
Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp
Streamline 3.1.esp
OOO-Water_Weeds.esp
Harvest [Flora].esp
Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp
Living Economy.esp



I use Oblivion Mod Manager, OBSE, BOSS, and Wyre Bash and consider myself at least slightly competent with modding, but I've never had this problem before.

Thanks!


I hate to say this, but your Load Order is anything but BOSS'd. I've compared it to my own, and almost every single mod you have is out of order (for example, Better Cities Resources.ESM should be the last Master file you load). My suggestions for you:

1. Run BOSS on your Load Order for real.

2. Build a Bashed Patch.

3. Try again on loading Oblivion.
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Post » Tue Nov 30, 2010 4:33 pm

Agree with above post. Also I've had issues like this when my bashed patch needed to be rebuilt, so give the above a try.
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Post » Wed Dec 01, 2010 12:17 am

BOSSed,l for real this time. (I guess I thought I did it? :unsure2: )

Bash patch is also rebuilt.

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Oblivion.esm
Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm
Kvatch Rebuilt.esm
CM Partners.esm
Better Cities Resources.esm
DLCShiveringIsles.esp
Better Cities .esp
HUDI.esp
Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp
OOO-Water_Weeds.esp
Kvatch Rebuilt - OOO Compatibility.esp
Harvest [Flora].esp
Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp
Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp
_Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp
Elves Of Lineage II.esp
CM Partners.esp
CM Partners Special NPCs.esp
CM Partners NPC.esp
CM Partners More NPCs.esp
CM Partners Marker NPCs.esp
CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp
KT_CustomRaceFix.esp
Better Cities Full.esp
Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp
Better Imperial City.esp
Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp
Better Cities Full FPS Patch.esp
Better Cities - No LEYAWIIN Flooding.esp
Streamline 3.1.esp


Still the same problem...
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Post » Wed Dec 01, 2010 12:43 am

Well, even though nothing may have happened, you've definitely helped your game. :goodjob:

How would you describe what's happening? Is it a crash (if so, how long does the game run, if at all, before you CTD), or a freeze?

EDIT: Just noticed this, where's Kvatch Rebuilt.ESP? You kinda need that for the mod to actually function.
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Post » Tue Nov 30, 2010 11:08 am

I see a "Kvatch rebuilt" esm, a compatibility patch, but no esp: this looks like it could cause your issue? (the patch probably requires this missing esp, if it's actually supposed to be there)
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Post » Tue Nov 30, 2010 6:31 pm

Well, even though nothing may have happened, you've definitely helped your game. :goodjob:

How would you describe what's happening? Is it a crash (if so, how long does the game run, if at all, before you CTD), or a freeze?

EDIT: Just noticed this, where's Kvatch Rebuilt.ESP? You kinda need that for the mod to actually work at all.



It freezes during the initial loading. When the Bethesda logo is appearing it normally freezes and if I try to skip it, it freezes during the first loading bar before the title screen.

I see a "Kvatch rebuilt" esm, a compatibility patch, but no esp: this looks like it could cause your issue? (the patch probably requires this missing esp, if it's actually supposed to be there)


I assumed the compatibility patch was also the ESP. My fault. The regular Kvatch Rebuilt ESP is also activated now, but still the same problem.

I also tried deleting the oblivion.ini file with no results.
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Post » Tue Nov 30, 2010 11:24 pm

Saves tab show anything interesting? Like one being colored red?
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Post » Tue Nov 30, 2010 10:40 am

Where's the Bashed Patch? Post your load order via Wrye Bash instead. It lists missing masters for one thing. Right-click the File-header > List mods > Paste into post
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Post » Tue Nov 30, 2010 11:33 pm

Nope nothing red on them, nor on the mods tab in Wrye Bash.

EDIT: @Arkngt

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00 Oblivion.esm
01 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.33]
02 Kvatch Rebuilt.esm
03 Better Cities Resources.esm
04 CM Partners.esm
05 DLCShiveringIsles.esp
06 Better Cities .esp
07 HUDI.esp
08 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.33]
09 OOO-Water_Weeds.esp [Version 1.33]
0A Kvatch Rebuilt.esp
0B Kvatch Rebuilt - OOO Compatibility.esp
0C Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0]
0D Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.0.0]
0E Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp
0F _Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp
10 Elves Of Lineage II.esp
11 CM Partners.esp
12 CM Partners Special NPCs.esp
13 CM Partners NPC.esp
14 CM Partners More NPCs.esp
15 CM Partners Marker NPCs.esp
16 CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp
17 KT_CustomRaceFix.esp
18 Better Cities Full.esp
19 Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp
1A Better Imperial City.esp
1B Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp [Version 4.7.0]
1C Better Cities Full FPS Patch.esp
1D Better Cities - No LEYAWIIN Flooding.esp
1E Streamline 3.1.esp

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Post » Tue Nov 30, 2010 1:38 pm

Nope nothing red on them, nor on the mods tab in Wrye Bash.

EDIT: @Arkngt

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00 Oblivion.esm
01 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.33]
02 Kvatch Rebuilt.esm
03 Better Cities Resources.esm
04 CM Partners.esm
05 DLCShiveringIsles.esp
06 Better Cities .esp
07 HUDI.esp
08 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.33]
09 OOO-Water_Weeds.esp [Version 1.33]
0A Kvatch Rebuilt.esp
0B Kvatch Rebuilt - OOO Compatibility.esp
0C Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0]
0D Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.0.0]
0E Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp
0F _Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp
10 Elves Of Lineage II.esp
11 CM Partners.esp
12 CM Partners Special NPCs.esp
13 CM Partners NPC.esp
14 CM Partners More NPCs.esp
15 CM Partners Marker NPCs.esp
16 CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp
17 KT_CustomRaceFix.esp
18 Better Cities Full.esp
19 Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp
1A Better Imperial City.esp
1B Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp [Version 4.7.0]
1C Better Cities Full FPS Patch.esp
1D Better Cities - No LEYAWIIN Flooding.esp
1E Streamline 3.1.esp



Again, where's the Bashed Patch? You say that you've rebuilt it - but it's not in the mod list. You should update OOO to 1.34 Beta 5 and Harvest Flora to 3.0.1, but that has nothing to do with your current issue.

What happens if you try to load the game with just Oblivion.esm checked?
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Post » Wed Dec 01, 2010 12:06 am

Its in now, it wasnt checked.

It seems irrelevant now though because with only Oblivion.esm checked the game still feezes at the same point.

Maybe a clean reinstall is the only way to make it work.
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Post » Tue Nov 30, 2010 11:14 pm

Its in now, it wasnt checked.

It seems irrelevant now though because with only Oblivion.esm checked the game still feezes at the same point.

Maybe a clean reinstall is the only way to make it work.

i hardly doubt that, a clean reinstall is rarely required...now, just to be sure of a few things, right now, if you untick every esp in wrye bash besides oblivion.esm, the game crahes on startup? If that's happening then i doubt a reinstall is really going to help...if you just installed the game now and it's crashing, then maybe theres some other reason.

edit: did you patch the game to 1.2?
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Post » Tue Nov 30, 2010 8:55 pm

i hardly doubt that, a clean reinstall is rarely required...now, just to be sure of a few things, right now, if you untick every esp in wrye bash besides oblivion.esm, the game crahes on startup? If that's happening then i doubt a reinstall is really going to help...if you just installed the game now and it's crashing, then maybe theres some other reason.

edit: did you patch the game to 1.2?



I noticed this too. Do you have the GOTY edition?

Oh, have you recently updated your PC since your last play through?

Raed
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Post » Tue Nov 30, 2010 6:43 pm

Which OS are you running? Do you have a dual monitor setup?
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Post » Wed Dec 01, 2010 2:28 am

I noticed this too. Do you have the GOTY edition?

Oh, have you recently updated your PC since your last play through?

Raed

doubt it, he doesn't have knights of the nine in there.
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Post » Tue Nov 30, 2010 12:37 pm

Which OS are you running? Do you have a dual monitor setup?

even better, just post the dxdiag.
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Post » Tue Nov 30, 2010 8:12 pm

If he's running Win 7 with an Nvidia card in a dual monitor setup, he'll have to install a third party utility to make Oblivion happy. Oblivion crashed on start immediately for me until I loaded Ultramon. It's the way Win 7 changed the dual monitor support. I found I was able to uninstall Ultramon afterwards and it still works, so I think Ultramon must have activated or installed something that was missing initially...
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Post » Tue Nov 30, 2010 5:24 pm

Well I went against advice and did a clean reinstall anyway.

With Oblivion updated with the official patch and SI the game works fine. (This is not the GOTY edition. I bought Oblivion and SI separately years ago.)

I am running Windows 7 on one monitor.

There has to be something with one of the mods where Im not installing it right.I'm not going to try installing all of them at the same time. Maybe one at a time?

At least this makes me pretty sure its not something with my computer or Oblivion itself, which makes sense because it has never given me trouble before.

EDIT - Does anyone know if the mods I had installed would be known for doing that? Better Cities and OOO seems to be the bigger ones.
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Post » Tue Nov 30, 2010 2:07 pm

Well I went against advice and did a clean reinstall anyway.

With Oblivion updated with the official patch and SI the game works fine. (This is not the GOTY edition. I bought Oblivion and SI separately years ago.)

I am running Windows 7 on one monitor.

There has to be something with one of the mods where Im not installing it right.I'm not going to try installing all of them at the same time. Maybe one at a time?

At least this makes me pretty sure its not something with my computer or Oblivion itself, which makes sense because it has never given me trouble before.

EDIT - Does anyone know if the mods I had installed would be known for doing that? Better Cities and OOO seems to be the bigger ones.

i am a bit confused with this tbh, you say you have experience with mods, however when you said you sorted your load order with BOSS, your posted mods wasn't anywhere near ordered, when you said you rebuilt the bashed patch, it didn't even appear on your mod list....

anyway, it's always a good idea to install mods one at a time, however with such a short list there is no reason why you cannot install them all at the same time. better cities and cm partners for example, both come in omod format, and i highly suggest using omods and obmm to install them. It's easy and you definitely won't get it wrong.

also with OOO, install the 1.34 patch

install the unofficial oblivion patch and unofficial shivering isles patch.

make sure if you're using bc vwd.esp use tes4lodgen to actually generate the distant view.

make sure to actually have the bashed patch in your data folder, or else it would be useless.

remember to read all the readmes for the mods, also some of them have relz threads here so it's best to check them, lots of important information.

and make sure you install streamline properly, just remember the streamline folder also needs to go into the data folder.

when you've done all that, sorted load order, rebuilt bash patch, and still have problems, then post your load order here.
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Post » Wed Dec 01, 2010 4:40 am

The load order out of place was my fault. I thought I ran BOSS earlier but I didn't. I clicked the executable instead of the other file.

I'm currently installing them one by one. I use the OMOD version for CM Partners and Better Cities.

Im starting to wonder if I somehow messed up the steamline install. It would make the most sense with what was going on, I think.
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