A Few Small Lore Questions

Post » Thu Jan 06, 2011 4:27 pm

Hello everyone here on the Lore Subforum, I'm new here and hope that these questions don't waste your time. Thanks in advance for reading.

My first question is; Can a Daedra allow a mortal to create a sort of "Pocket-Realm" inside their own realm?
-This has probably been asked about a million times before, but please bear with me. I've always been confused about Camoran's Paradise.

My next question is; When races mix, exactly how many of the father's traits pass on?
-I know that when races mix the main traits are from the mother, but how much influence do the father's traits have?

My last question is; Is it true that the more famous and revered something/one is, the more power they have?
-I've seen this stated many times and I'm a bit confused about it.

Thanks again.
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Post » Thu Jan 06, 2011 7:21 am

Welcome, if you haven't already, http://media.photobucket.com/image/fishy%20stick/Merik2013/fishystick.jpg

1. Actually, we tend not to get this a lot. The mechanism involved is really complicated and I'm falling asleep here, so I'm not going too deep into this. However, what Dagon did was he poured some of his power (and by extension, his soul) into making the Mysterium Xarxes. It then could serve as the anchor keeping Paradise from being washed away by the (figurative) Waters of Oblivion. Then Mankar Cameron served as the channeling force which shaped and stabilized Paradise into what you see it as. So Mankar did indeed 'create' and hold dominion over Paradise and it was indeed granted to him by Mehrunes Dagon. However, I'd describe it more as subletting a pocket-world than creating. The process was more a way for Dagon to better directly control Cameron than some kind of personal whimsy.

2. Notes on Racial Phylogeny is the only shred of lore on the stuff. I'd guess, just like real inheritance, the traits expressed are random. Although we can hazard a guess. The Grey Prince had an Imperial Father and an Orc Mother, and he presented as a pale orc, though one may argue the father's vampirism also skewed results. I'd wager that the effects of the father are more internal. So an Altmer father might pass on his deep reservoir of magick to his offspring. But who knows.

3. We spend a lot of our time talking about the stuff around this issue. Symbolism in the ES world is a very powerful thing. It can literally destroy nations and gods. So without going too deep into the issue, yes, the more symbolic power someone has, the more mythic status they wield. There are caveats and exceptions attached to that statement, but generally that's true.

I'm don't know how much lore you know, but if you're interested in more, I recommend http://www.imperial-library.info/ for further reading.
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Post » Thu Jan 06, 2011 5:26 pm

Welcome, if you haven't already, http://media.photobucket.com/image/fishy%20stick/Merik2013/fishystick.jpg

1. Actually, we tend not to get this a lot. The mechanism involved is really complicated and I'm falling asleep here, so I'm not going too deep into this. However, what Dagon did was he poured some of his power (and by extension, his soul) into making the Mysterium Xarxes. It then could serve as the anchor keeping Paradise from being washed away by the (figurative) Waters of Oblivion. Then Mankar Cameron served as the channeling force which shaped and stabilized Paradise into what you see it as. So Mankar did indeed 'create' and hold dominion over Paradise and it was indeed granted to him by Mehrunes Dagon. However, I'd describe it more as subletting a pocket-world than creating. The process was more a way for Dagon to better directly control Cameron than some kind of personal whimsy.

2. Notes on Racial Phylogeny is the only shred of lore on the stuff. I'd guess, just like real inheritance, the traits expressed are random. Although we can hazard a guess. The Grey Prince had an Imperial Father and an Orc Mother, and he presented as a pale orc, though one may argue the father's vampirism also skewed results. I'd wager that the effects of the father are more internal. So an Altmer father might pass on his deep reservoir of magick to his offspring. But who knows.

3. We spend a lot of our time talking about the stuff around this issue. Symbolism in the ES world is a very powerful thing. It can literally destroy nations and gods. So without going too deep into the issue, yes, the more symbolic power someone has, the more mythic status they wield. There are caveats and exceptions attached to that statement, but generally that's true.

I'm don't know how much lore you know, but if you're interested in more, I recommend http://www.imperial-library.info/ for further reading.



That helped a lot, thanks! I've seen that abbreviation (TIL) before, but I never figured out what it was supposed to mean, so I once again thank you.
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Post » Thu Jan 06, 2011 10:34 am

That helped a lot, thanks! I've seen that abbreviation (TIL) before, but I never figured out what it was supposed to mean, so I once again thank you.

For your third question, these http://www.imperial-library.info/search/node/mnemoli might help.

im amazed I managed to spell Mnemoli right, I haven't read the book of hours in forever.
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Post » Thu Jan 06, 2011 9:21 am

It's spelled too similarly to 'mnemonic' for you to forget it. :)
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Post » Thu Jan 06, 2011 11:06 am

Edit: Ack! Sorry about the triple post. My internet imploded.
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Edit: I think I need a new avatar.
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Post » Thu Jan 06, 2011 9:23 pm

Surely not! You, Hircine, Peryite, the list goes on - you and your avatars are one of the things that make this site so cool.
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Post » Thu Jan 06, 2011 4:27 pm

Surely not! You, Hircine, Peryite, the list goes on - you and your avatars are one of the things that make this site so cool.


I conformed to the daggerfall profile groupies. May you strike me with your mighty lightning stick.

Anyway, to answer the questions to the best of my ability...


My first question is; Can a Daedra allow a mortal to create a sort of "Pocket-Realm" inside their own realm?
-I don't believe the mortal can create the realm, but I believe an alternate realm can be created for the mortal if need be, though it would need to be forged by the father prince of the land.

My next question is; When races mix, exactly how many of the father's traits pass on?
-I'd assume it depends on the race. Bretons are an elf-human mix, but they share more human traits than elf, so I'd assume human is more dominate. I don't know much else on heredity.

My last question is; Is it true that the more famous and revered something/one is, the more power they have?
-This is really a universal question, not a lore-related one. Power comes from strength in numbers and influence on the world, not by how well someone knows you. I'll be damned if Justin Beiber get's a say on when I can eat my cocoa poofs.
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Post » Thu Jan 06, 2011 8:39 pm

Just inputting my groove into this thread. :disguise:
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