I am finishing up Honest Hearts, I have to admit I really liked it. The only other DLC I did was Dead Money. The choice in HH of whether to fight or flee, I thought, was interesting. What choice do you think is the best one? I chose to fight the White Legs and reclaim Zion.

I chose to fight the White Legs and kill Salt-Upon-Wounds myself.

The only choice where Daniel would have been kind of happy after the end was to flee Zion, but I didn't want the Sorrows and Dead Horses to have to leave the little oasis. I chose to kill Salt-Upon-Wounds myself because he was too dangerous to be left alive and to bring Joshua a little peace.

I chose fight the first time around and I gave Salt-Upon-Wounds a fair fight. Of course Daniel wasn't happy. I, however, agreed with Graham and thought it was important that they defended their land. They had carved out a life there and why should they be pushed out by a bunch of hooligans?

So, the 2nd time I chose flight, and Daniel was still not happy. So, forget Daniel, from now on I will always choose fight, because I truly believe they should stay in Zion! (Plus the flight option also messed up the caravan trade later on).

Imo it's better to fight. There's also some options with Joshua's ending if you have high speech, which is cool.

With Daniel, it's pretty much one ending, or two I suppose if you don't do the rescuing things. Both Daniel endings still are empty with the Sorrows gone.

I like it better when they stay.

I chose to fight, and let Graham execute Salt-Upon-Wounds. Zion is their home, and they deserve to live there. I only chose flight the next time for the trophy.

I could care less about some degenerate savages, but I fought for them to keep their homes since the White Legs are just asking to be slaughtered.

And here i am responding to your other threat thinking your an idiot for saying BoS are worse then Enclave. I salute you sir.

What did u expect them to be the nuclear wars wiped out civilization of course they are [censored]in degenerate.

I think most everyone in this forum would choose fight over flight. Mostly because it's more fun and the tribes are capable of killing off the white legs. Plus there are two ways the "fight" can end. One where JG makes peace with himself and lets Salt live and also the ending where you are ruthless and kill them all.

Though both fight and flight, I believe, end in the white legs dying. I think the white legs are killed off because they fail or they eventually die because they can't do anything but [censored] and pillage.

It's been over 200 years. They remain savages because they are stupid unlike most tribals who have been integrated into NCR, Legion and other factions.

I left zion becaue It was the right thing to do instead of killing all of them.

I went with the fight option my first playthrough of Honest Hearts, I let Salt-Upon-Wounds fight for himself and not let Joshua brutally murder him, granting him a little peace, I really do believe this is the better option, but I do feel bad the Sorrows' lose their innocence, but you've got to be hardened to survive in the wasteland.

If the NCR and Legion and all others that integrated the tribals into their own were not there then everyone would be tribals right? Lets assume that mostly everyone would. What then, everyone a degenerate? Look it aint like Zion got invaded by a pre war like democracy (NCR) and there isnt really much tech or anything that would be able to turn the so called ''savages'' from a tribal form into a more civilized form. So none of the tribes that were integrated are smarter they are just more civilized.

I chose flight.

My main argument was this:
When I went in, I was a House supporter. One of the reasons I was was because House doesn't wipe out the NCR and Legion, but rather co-exists with them. Although difficult for people to make the trek, this gives people options about what kind of nation they want to live in. If they don't like House, they can flee to NCR. If they hate trading in the NCR, they can trade in Legion territory. This, at the time to me, was sort of like Independent Vegas except with more established governments rather than anarchy. (and admittedly, a lot of footwork to switch nations lulz) I wanted to allow all three nations to co-exist among each other and simply let the people choose which one they liked best, and let that flag fly.

This also meant I wanted the Sorrows innocence to survive. Why? Because they were unique. They were the only culture in the area that knew no war and cried for fallen enemies as well. Zion is but a place, but such a culture doesn't come around so often. If they can continue living that way then let's let them. I think it's worth a try, even if it does cost them their home once.
Aside from that, I just sort of heeded Daniel's warnings about Graham. To me it felt like Graham was sort of repeating history, rallying tribes for war like Caesar.

Fight! Crush the White Legs!

The main reason for this as a Legion supporter is simple. Not only did the White Legs fail to kill Graham, they're attacking the Sorrows as well. What's the point in that? Killing Daniel? Their main target was Graham and they can't even do that correctly. Not to mention they "salt the earth," making it totally unusable. Why? They're idiots, that's why. When you get land, you take its resources and perhaps settle there. Not to mention conquer the losing tribe. They deserve to die for not only their failure but also because they're idiots. Idiots that want to join the Legion. The Legion would only be sullied by the White Legs.

The Sorrows need to lose their innocence and realize that the world isn't good. Mourn for your enemies? That kind of thinking will only get them killed later on by some other tribe like the 80s. Zion is a unique place. Zion deserves the chance to grow and to be more than squabbling tribes. The White Legs aren't even planning to conquer Zion and make it a place for them. They just abandon it and ruin it. Zion can be so much more than that.

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We are on the opposite coast, so the Enclave really isnt in force here. If they were, I would kill every tribal I saw. You know why? They are not pure humans.

Here comes the neighborhood. They are humans but their lvl of ignorance is... lets just say it aint civilized.
Oh BTW something unrelated: Enclave are not America. America is a irradiated ruin. Get it? Irradiated [censored] ruin not a government that wants to mass murder ''unclean'' people.

America is an irradiated ruin, but the Enclave will restore America and will make it great. You have to clear away the past to make room for the future. The tribals are irradiated, and they probably dont even know what America is.

I beg to differ....

You sound like a lost dead country is more important the peoples life. Man im a Icelandic patriot but i dont think that my country would be worth the lifes of everyone in it. And bear in mind its not only the Tribes they are killing its normal wastelanders and people that are trying to rebuild Enclave just think that they and only they should survive the apocalypse and rebuild america their way.

Try both of them eventually, but I liked fighting them more. Although both endings and final fight with SUW are quite shallow in my opinion.

Well on my first play of that DLC I used my Legion character.
So I left salt-upon-wounds alone and let the sorrows flee.
But theeeeeen I saw the ending slide and just figured I'd fight and try my best to make everyone more prone to fighting.
What a lovely person I am.

That's because every one in the wasteland forgot about America. The only ones who remember are the Enclave. If wastelanders start to repopulate, their children will inherit the radiation of their parents. Americans will die out. With the Enclave, America will be reborn in its purest form.