Finally playing Oblivion again with a lot of trouble :( : IV - Oblivion

» Sat May 28, 2011 11:08 am

Message is "Oblivion.exe has encountered an error and needs to close"

And now it appears just if i quit the game myself. So i can't save Graphic settings.

» Sat May 28, 2011 9:51 pm

Install Fast Exit 2. http://tesivpositive.animolious.com/index.php?page=stabilization_and_optimization_mods#OBSEPlugins

Did you regenerate your INI and tweak it (to prevent sill Oblivion default settings crashes)?

» Sat May 28, 2011 3:37 pm

Fastexit is working. I will test it a bit and report later if i get some new errors. Thanks for the help guys. :foodndrink:

» Sat May 28, 2011 8:50 pm

Ok tested it now a bit.....well it worked a few minutes then again the same error message. :brokencomputer: :brokencomputer: :brokencomputer:

» Sat May 28, 2011 3:27 pm

Ok tested it now a bit.....well it worked a few minutes then again the same error message. :brokencomputer: :brokencomputer: :brokencomputer:

That is kind of a good thing because the patch fixing it would mean memory leak, big time. Now, have you tried regenerating the Oblivion.ini and doing a clean boot? Basically, did you do anything in that post after which you responded that the patch had worked?

» Sat May 28, 2011 5:29 pm

Yes i did a clean boot and a new ini with these tweak settings.
Still crashing. It is really annoying..... :cryvaultboy: :shakehead: :brokencomputer: :brokencomputer: :brokencomputer: :sad:

:nuke: :angry:

» Sat May 28, 2011 2:35 pm

Did you try WeOCPS?

» Sat May 28, 2011 1:55 pm

Yes have that one now too. I think it must be something wrong with the .ini file. The game works with the standart settings (640x480) without crashing

» Sat May 28, 2011 6:34 pm

Is it really such a disaster if it crashes when exiting? It always does that every now and then for me but I don't have any problems.

But what is this 4GB patch? I've not heard of that before.

» Sat May 28, 2011 11:47 am

Is it really such a disaster if it crashes when exiting? It always does that every now and then for me but I don't have any problems.

But what is this 4GB patch? I've not heard of that before.

Now it is crashing while playing. Its some kind of a weird thing...... :sad:

:facepalm: :brokencomputer:
Always "Oblivion.exe has encountered an error and needs to close"

Application Error 1000

» Sat May 28, 2011 9:58 pm

Now it is crashing while playing. Its some kind of a weird thing...... :sad:

:facepalm: :brokencomputer:
Always "Oblivion.exe has encountered an error and needs to close"

Application Error 1000

A basic CTD. Roughly one billion possible causes. How often does it crash?

» Sat May 28, 2011 4:20 pm

A basic CTD. Roughly one billion possible causes. How often does it crash?

Well i start the game, walk around for a few minutes (maybe 2minutes)..... CRASH
It makes me want to bawl :brokencomputer: :brokencomputer: :brokencomputer: :brokencomputer:

» Sat May 28, 2011 12:39 pm

i want to play..... :cry:

» Sun May 29, 2011 12:01 am

Still no working Oblivion for me :sad:

I tried reinstall it again always the same CTD. Tried the ini tweaks and all the other things. It just keep crushing after a few minutes of playing at random places.

Thats my load order, modified with BOSS

Oblivion.esm
Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm
Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm
Francesco's Optional New Creatures Add-On.esm
Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp
DLCShiveringIsles.esp
Advanced_Water_Modification-2734.esp
Ambient Inns, 0.1.esp
Cities Alive At Night.esp
DLCHorseArmor.esp
DLCOrrery.esp
DLCVileLair.esp
DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
DLCSpellTomes.esp
DLCThievesDen.esp
Francesco's Optional Leveled Arena.esp
Oblivion WarCry.esp
ElsweyrRiverhold.esp
GDSkingradCathedral.esp
DLCFrostcrag.esp
Knights.esp
Unique Landscapes - Dark Forest DV.esp
Unique Landscapes - Stendarr Valley DV.esp
Unique Landscapes - The Heath - with Creatures DV.esp
Unique Landscapes - Entius Gorge DV.esp
Unique Landscapes - Fallenleaf Everglade DV.esp
Unique Landscapes - ColovianHighlands DV.esp
Unique Landscapes - ChorrolHinterland DV.esp
Unique Landscapes - Beaches of Cyrodiil DV.esp
Unique Landscapes - Bravil Barrowfields DV.esp
Unique Landscapes - Lush Woodlands DV.esp
Unique Landscapes - AncientYews DV.esp
Unique Landscapes - Ancient Redwoods DV.esp
Unique Landscapes - Cloudtop Mountains DV.esp
Unique Landscapes - ArriusCreek DV.esp
Unique Landscapes - Rolling Hills DV - ohne Weizen.esp
Unique Landscapes - River Ethe DV.esp
Unique Landscapes - Brena River Ravine DV.esp
Unique Landscapes - Imperial Isle DV.esp
Unique Landscapes - Blackwood Forest DV.esp
Unique Landscapes - Cheydinhal Falls DV.esp
Unique Landscapes - Aspen Wood DV.esp
Unique Landscapes - Skingrad Outskirts DV.esp
JM's Bar Fights.esp
LainPoseMODv1.4.esp
actors_in_charge.esp
ActorsInMadness.esp
ActorsInEmotions.esp
shinyEmotions.esp
FULL_Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul_V_1.23_obliviondeutsch_dv.esp
UL_Patch_AncientYews_ArriusCreek DV.esp
Unique Landscapes - Panther River DV.esp
Clintmichs Beautiful Imperial City Arboretum v1.1.esp
xulImperialCitySewerExits.esp
CastleEltz.esp
Catrace.esp
JazzJRALL.esp

» Sun May 29, 2011 1:49 am

Still no working Oblivion for me :sad:

I tried reinstall it again always the same CTD. Tried the ini tweaks and all the other things. It just keep crushing after a few minutes of playing at random places.

Thats my load order, modified with BOSS

What are the names of your Fran BSAs, and have you tried disabling groups of mods to see if the problem is mod-related?

» Sun May 29, 2011 2:32 am

You can't use Fran's and WarCry (and a German version of OOO ! ) without doing an FCOM install. That might be the cause of some of your crashes. Even if it isn't, those mods will not work together well.

I would ditch Clintmich's mods. They do look nice, but there's something wrong with them. By themselves they cause massive slowdowns on my system which can handle FCOM and 200 other mods acceptably well.

Also, you have a lot of Unique Landscapes mods but don't have any Unique Landscapes patches.

Have you read the BOSSlog.txt that BOSS generates in your Data folder? It should have lots of suggestions/directions/warnings that you would do well to pay attention to.

gothemasticator

» Sat May 28, 2011 2:55 pm

What are the names of your Fran BSAs, and have you tried disabling groups of mods to see if the problem is mod-related?

Yes it works a few minutes longer then it crash again.
Well it crashs even in the Tutorial dungeon. Don't think it has something to do with clintmichs mod. As my game worked good there was no slowdown from it and it worked. but since i installed it again nothing works.

This is what BOSS tells me

Oblivion.esm
. Note: Masterlist Information: $Revision: 788 $, $Date: 2010-04-02 12:04:08 -0700 (Fri, 02 Apr 2010) $, $LastChangedBy: pacificmorrowind $

Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Invent, Delev, Relev, Actors.AIData,Actors.Stats, Stats}}

Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm

Francesco's Optional New Creatures Add-On.esm

TNR - THE KHAJIIT.esp
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:NpcFaces,NoMerge}} and deactivate.

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp
. Note: Recommend installing UOP hotfix for additional fixes: http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=27710
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Actors.AIData,Actors.AIPackages,Actors.CombatStyle,Actors.DeathItem,Actors.Stats,C.Climate,C.Light,C.Name,C.Owner,Creatures.Blood,Delev,Factions,Invent,Names,Relations,Relev,Scripts,Stats}} and remove the C.Water tag (only exist in older version).
. Note: Remember to use the 'MOBS' version when using Francesco's or FCOM.
. Note: Newest MOBS and non-MOBS versions have the same name.

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

Advanced_Water_Modification-2734.esp

Ambient Inns, 0.1.esp

Cities Alive At Night.esp

DLCHorseArmor.esp

DLCOrrery.esp

DLCVileLair.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

DLCSpellTomes.esp
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Relev}}

DLCThievesDen.esp
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:C.Name,C.Light}}

Francesco's More Wilderness Life.esp

Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp

Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp

Francesco's Optional Dungeon Chest Loot.esp

Francesco's Optional Dungeon Chest Locks.esp

Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp

Francesco's Optional House Chest Loot.esp

Francesco's Optional New Adventurers.esp

Francesco's Optional Vendor Tweaks.esp

Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp

Francesco's Optional Leveled Quests.esp

Francesco's Optional Leveled Arena.esp

Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp

Oblivion WarCry.esp
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Actors.ACBS,Actors.DeathItem,Actors.Stats,Delev,Graphics,Invent,Relev,Stats}}
. Note: German version.

ElsweyrRiverhold.esp
. Note: Border region restrictions must be turned off: use Wrye Bash tweak, hand edit .ini file or use no-border mod (not recommended).
. Note: Do not use if using ElsweyrAnequina.esp

GDSkingradCathedral.esp

DLCFrostcrag.esp
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:C.Name,C.Owner}}

Knights.esp

Unique Landscapes - Dark Forest DV.esp

Unique Landscapes - Stendarr Valley DV.esp

Unique Landscapes - The Heath - with Creatures DV.esp

Unique Landscapes - Entius Gorge DV.esp

Unique Landscapes - Fallenleaf Everglade DV.esp

Unique Landscapes - ColovianHighlands DV.esp

Unique Landscapes - ChorrolHinterland DV.esp

Unique Landscapes - Beaches of Cyrodiil DV.esp

Unique Landscapes - Bravil Barrowfields DV.esp

Unique Landscapes - Lush Woodlands DV.esp

Unique Landscapes - AncientYews DV.esp

Unique Landscapes - Ancient Redwoods DV.esp

Unique Landscapes - Cloudtop Mountains DV.esp

Unique Landscapes - ArriusCreek DV.esp

Unique Landscapes - Rolling Hills DV - ohne Weizen.esp
. Note: Only use one UL Rolling Hills esp

Unique Landscapes - River Ethe DV.esp

Unique Landscapes - Brena River Ravine DV.esp
. Note: Border region restrictions must be turned off: use Wrye Bash tweak, hand edit .ini file or use no-border mod (not recommended).

Unique Landscapes - Imperial Isle DV.esp

Unique Landscapes - Blackwood Forest DV.esp

Unique Landscapes - Cheydinhal Falls DV.esp

Unique Landscapes - Aspen Wood DV.esp

Unique Landscapes - Skingrad Outskirts DV.esp

JM's Bar Fights.esp
. Note: Pick and use only 1 of the 2 JM's Bar Fight mod files.

LainPoseMODv1.4.esp

actors_in_charge.esp

ActorsInMadness.esp

ActorsInEmotions.esp

shinyEmotions.esp

-----------------------------------------------------------------
Unrecognised mod files:
Reorder these by hand using your favourite mod ordering utility.
-----------------------------------------------------------------

Unknown mod file: JazzJRAllinOne.esp
Unknown mod file: FULL_Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul_V_1.23_obliviondeutsch_dv.esp
Unknown mod file: FransArmorforExnem.esp
Unknown mod file: UL_Patch_AncientYews_ArriusCreek DV.esp
Unknown mod file: Unique Landscapes - Panther River DV.esp
Unknown mod file: Clintmichs Beautiful Imperial City Arboretum v1.1.esp
Unknown mod file: xulImperialCitySewerExits.esp
Unknown mod file: CastleEltz.esp
Unknown mod file: Catrace.esp
Unknown mod file: JazzJRALL.esp

-----------------------------------------------------------
Done.

» Sat May 28, 2011 3:07 pm

Unknown mod file: JazzJRAllinOne.esp <-- Disable all of these for now, as BOSS does not recognize them, and we do not need any more "unknowns" in the equation for now.
Unknown mod file: FULL_Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul_V_1.23_obliviondeutsch_dv.esp
Unknown mod file: FransArmorforExnem.esp
Unknown mod file: UL_Patch_AncientYews_ArriusCreek DV.esp
Unknown mod file: Unique Landscapes - Panther River DV.esp
Unknown mod file: Clintmichs Beautiful Imperial City Arboretum v1.1.esp
Unknown mod file: xulImperialCitySewerExits.esp
Unknown mod file: CastleEltz.esp
Unknown mod file: Catrace.esp
Unknown mod file: JazzJRALL.esp

What are the names of your Francesco's Creature-Items Mod BSAs? It installed two of them in your Data folder. Also, when you regenerated the Oblivion.ini, did you set bEnableBorderRegions to 1. If not, do that now.

Some more Oblivion.ini Tweaks - http://tesivpositive.animolious.com/index.php?page=oblivion_ini_tweaks <-- some of these recommendations are for crash prevention (towards the top)

» Sat May 28, 2011 10:28 pm

What are the names of your Francesco's Creature-Items Mod BSAs? It installed two of them in your Data folder.

Which ones? it created a lot of BSAs. :confused:

Well i deactivated ALL mods and still CTD. What is that???

» Sat May 28, 2011 5:57 pm

First. You have to make a choice: Do you want to play Francesco's, Warcry or OOO? Those mods are NOT compatible unless you use FCOM, and you are not using it.
After the choices you must uninstall the other overhauls (For example, you choose Warcry, then uninstall OOO and Fran's). And when I mean uninstall, you have to destroy not only the ESMs/ESPs, but the related files too. Check the uninstallation section in the readmes.

You don't have Exnems mods in your list, so you should eliminate "FransArmorforExnem.esp", it is useless

Then consider to use the bashed patch function of Wrye Bash to avoit further incompatibilities.

Last but not least: READ THE README OF EACH MOD YOU INSTALL. Expecially Installation, compatibility and known issues parts.

Good Luck.

EDIT: you should use the unofficial mods patches too and maybe SM plugin refurbish.

» Sat May 28, 2011 5:32 pm

I tried everything now even the unmodded Oblivion crashes. Could it be a Hardware issue?

Windows XP Professional Version 2002
Service Pack 3

AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual
Core Processor 6000+
3,01Ghz, 3,50GB RAM

Geforce 8800 GTS
512MB GDDR3

» Sat May 28, 2011 9:02 pm

Assuming your hardware isn't faulty, it's certanily fine for Oblivion. For modded Oblivion at reasonably high res and settings, even.

Do you have any other application/game/OS issues at all? If so, then yes, it might be hardware (or drivers, possibly), in some way or other. If not, more likely it's something fundamentally wrong with the way Oblivion is currently configured. Have you tried a *clean* (i.e., total) uninstall, and a fresh install? This is usually the last resort, but hey, that might be where you're at. Possibly not though. Need moar data!

» Sat May 28, 2011 4:37 pm

I installed it almost 100 times now. I am up to try it with an "older" driver for my Graphic Card. Its crushing a lot more times since i updated it. I will see if that helps. Other games run fine.

» Sat May 28, 2011 10:21 pm

I installed it almost 100 times now.

With, first of all, a *clean* uninstall each time?

I am up to try it with an "older" driver for my Graphic Card.

I guess, who knows, that might be worth a shot. But it's unlikely. While I've heard of a couple of potential problems with the latest ATI drivers (Catalyst 10.6, that is, in case anyone else is reading this

) I haven't heard anything of like kind about the latest Nvidia offering. But then, I'm using an ATI card, so I mightn't be quite as up to date on those.

» Sat May 28, 2011 9:03 pm

I tried everything now even the unmodded Oblivion crashes. Could it be a Hardware issue?

Windows XP Professional Version 2002
Service Pack 3

AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual
Core Processor 6000+
3,01Ghz, 3,50GB RAM

Geforce 8800 GTS
512MB GDDR3

That hardware is fine. I don't think it's the problem.

If unmodded Oblivion is crashing, you need to completely uninstall and then reinstall.

Uninstall the game.
Delete the folder Oblivion which should be in My Games\Oblivion. (You can move the Saves to your desktop first if you want.)
Delete the Oblivion folder which is wherever your game was installed: C:\Games\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion or whatever your installation is.
Install the game again.
Playtest and make sure the totally vanilla game is working before adding anything to it.

good luck

gothemasticator