Proof there really is no intelligent life out there. Either that, or Spaceballs was in fact the closest thing we have ever had to The Truth ™

Hubble Deep Field: The Most Imp. Image Ever Taken (Redux)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgg2tpUVbXQ


Parallel Universes (1/5)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kcdt6i1oMb0


Quantum Entanglement and the Power of Intention

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QcKDvcnZrE


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A few interesting videos adding their own to this disscussion.

When discussin whether or not "intelligent life" exists outside our solar system or even within a good question(s) to keep in mind is...

"What is considered 'intelligent'" - ?
Is there a fine line dividing intilligent versus nonintelligent?
Is there a grey area between the two?

How many Pink Floyd's are there out there? aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Theoritically there could be a universe with nothing but pink floyds

Set the controls for the heart of the sun!

Pretty much my take on it. However I think most of you overestimate our ability to eventually conquer the galaxy. I predict that any lifeforms we may encounter will be http://i44.tinypic.com/2evre9z.jpg, or just http://www.nefariousfilms.com/Images/Monsters/predator.jpg. In both cases it's not the aliens, but we who will be in lots of trouble.

Unless of course http://chadfilmblog.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/arnie.jpg is still alive by the time we encounter our first aliens.

Fixed.

Anyways. I think some people are overestimating the possibility of intergalactic traveling. Not in a billion years. Not in eternity.

Pretty pessimistic, aren't we? Time is the only thing keeping us from learning everything. Given enough time, we could solve anything. Right now, I'm more concerned that we'll still have enough resources by the time we figure it out.

Given enough time, we will realize that yes, there is a limit to how quickly you can move from one place to another. It's not about wether we can solve it or not, there are certain laws in this universe that cannot be compromised no matyter what you do. That's what I believe. Even if we solved all the mysteries in the universe, we would end up only with realizing that it's just impossible. (Sure, we can maybe invent an eternal life in some sense, and thus, even a hyper long travel would be possible...)

If by some miracle our species is still alive in a few million years, we'll find a way to leave the solar system because the Sun will either engulf the Earth or burn off all it's water. If by some miracle we're still alive in a few billion years, we'll find a way to leave the galaxy because of the collision with Andromeda. Humans are creative thinkers, we'll find a way to survive. I mean, just look at how many ways we know how to kill each other! ...mmm, bad example.

There's always a way around. We just need the dedication to figure it out.

It's not about our resourcefulness, it's about whether it is physically possible or not. And by that logic humans -would- be alive in a few billion years, because we are so resourceful.

And on another note, sun won't burn anything except some skin in quite a while, a few million years really won't do.

I was talking about when the sun expands to become a Red Giant. When that happens, anyone on earth wont have time to worry about sun burn, because they'd die instantly.

I'm bound to disagree, but, if I understood correctly this topic is about life elsewhere in solar system, not about the possibility of intergalactic travel. Sorry for derailing it. If we want to discuss this further, a topic on it should be made. Until then, we will have to agree to disagree.

Edit: And xXAntibodyXx, sun won't expand in a few million years. Not in a hundred million years, not in a five hundred million years. No. Earliest we need to start worry (according to current estimates) is in about a billion years.

Well that's going by the stereotype that all aliens are hyper advanced, and gross looking.


Well I'm pretty sure its about 6-7 billion years until the sun turns into a red giant. Right now it's middle aged *I think*.

Look, guys... there's no species we can't coexist with if we work at it. Environmental destruction only began because of ignorance; it was continued due to greed and fear. People are smart enough to repeat the same mistakes with a time margin that's pretty comfy in between. So, I don't feel like we'll have to drive another species to extinction.

Like I've said before, I can see humans trying to get in on the action, rather than destroying species. If Avatar and Mass Effect taught me anything, it's that humans can peacefully coexist with, and make love to, a plethora of species, in perfect, synchronized harmony.

Whoops, well, anyway if we're still alive in a few billion years we'd have probably forgotten about the Earth way before then anyway.

Fixed that for you.

Many have tried to make humans co-exist with eachother, yet we still stab eachother in the back, if we cant live in peace with eachother, then another species is out of the question.
And in ME you can not coexist, by you know, killing of the coulncil, putting humans on top and helping out TIM.

i think we should be using the money from the space missions to end poverty and make the world better before we go out and runin more worlds!
if we do find life (animals) then we sould respect it and leave the planet alone (its their world) if we find intelegent life we can trade with it

...You missed the whole "have six with aliens" part, right?

Besides, backstabbing gets old when the knife in question is a railgun that can fire a twenty-pound round and the impact will make Hiroshima look like a slap on the wrist (say it with me, guys: Sir Isaac Newton is the deadliest son of a [censored] in space!). If you've noticed, MAD kinda stopped most of the less-than-petty backstabbing, or at least major, catastrophic results don't occur due to backstabbing. (let's not go much further into that). Any other space-faring races would have heavy weapons, so we couldn't really backstab anything...

Not to mention that there's no pragmatic reason for letting most of the things in zoos live, but as humans we enjoy diversity and adventure. We try to preserve some of that magic, even if it's for selfish reasons, 'cause we like it. Hell, we even protect animals like alligators and crocodiles, despite the fact that as predators they don't take out massive numbers of species (don't quote me on this, they aren't the main predators in anywhere that I know of...) but can be really dangerous in urban places (quote me on this, I've seen it).

Indeed I have. Icy cold and is no longer considered a planet!

If we find life elsewhere in the Solar System...

...well, we won't. No 'alien' with 2 grams of brain, after reading this thread or listening/watching our media, would have anything to do with a savage, deranged species like humans.

You have heard of wormholes, right?

There's no proof that anything macroscopic can be put through a wormhole, or remain intact, or do anything but cause the wormhole to collapse.

I do admit to being disturbed by suggestions that the way for humans to survive is to colonize other planets. That's a cop-out and an excuse for wasting this planet. We have this world, which for all we've done to screw it up is still habitable by billions and isn't by any means ready to be written off. Making do with what we already have is a lot more sensible than betting our survival on something we don't even know we can get to.

And the number of known colonizable planets is zero, the cost to establish a colony anywhere off the Earth exceeds the gross world product, and we have already failed spectacularly at proving that we can sustain either a self-sufficient "biosphere" in the friendly environment of Earth or a fully functioning outpost in space for any length of time.

Moderator gets the last post Start a successor thread if you want; I'll put a link to it here.