I find your lack of RPG.... Disturbing.

Post » Sat Dec 05, 2015 9:17 am

That's a sorry excuse.

There have been a few titles that recently released that were targeted towards a small and loyal fanbase but those titles were highly successful and brought in a much larger than expected audience. Two of which were kickstaters and all of the titles were true RPGs
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Heather Stewart
 
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Post » Sat Dec 05, 2015 12:59 pm

Yeah, DOS true GOTY of 2014 and POE, great games.

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Post » Sat Dec 05, 2015 3:41 pm

I'm not trying to make a excuse it's just the way it is for every "original" fan bethesda has alienated they've probably added 5 new ones....and they aren't going to change...I'd say the gigantic success of this release further encourages them
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Post » Sat Dec 05, 2015 7:52 am

Its just that its been the exact same complaints, word for word, since 2002. The whole "dumbing down and not a RPG" stuff.

Talking about how you don't like the voiced protagonist isn't white noise, its a honest and humble complaint that actually has a chance of being taken into account. Talking about how the game is dumbed down and how you are thus so much smarter for not liking the game that the unwashed masses like is just promptly ignored because it makes you sound like a elitist hipster.

Every single time that dumbing down complaint is made, Bethesda knows that if that's the best the haters can come up with then they must be doing something right.

Man, it would take a giant pile of money to make the voiced stuff work in TES with all of the different races. And that's not even getting past the issues that the voice carries.

I don't think it would ruin the game, but it would be a step backwards.

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Post » Sat Dec 05, 2015 3:59 pm

I like the way they're going

I can't stand 'hardcoe RPG' games like Diabo, Dark Souls, Dragon Age and I'm greatful that Fallout feels a bit more like an open world shooter

the huge dense world is what makes Bethesda games special for me and all the small RPG elements make it stand above any other 'casual' shooter like Far Cry

the 3 last Fallout games, the Stalker games and Skyrim are the only somewhat 'RPG' games that I've played and loved so far

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Post » Sat Dec 05, 2015 1:13 pm

Of course it has been the same complaints, because nothing has been done to help it, on the contrary. ;)

You should look beyond the simple words. What does dumbing down mean, what do people mean when they say it. It might be an umbrella term, but it witholds just as valid criticism about all sorts of gameplay and narrative mechanics as "I don't like voiced protagonist :( ". If you get stuck on the tone in which things are said rather than explore what they might actually be about (you know, discussion), you've missed your mark pretty good. And if one is a developer and does that, it's even worse.

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Post » Sat Dec 05, 2015 3:27 pm

OHHHH look another post about the same, -.- really ppl need to star accepting that life isnt how u want. And learn to adapt to new things or just dont play it.

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Post » Sat Dec 05, 2015 10:50 am

LOL looking how each and single Bethesda game is a major success not only on sell but on recognition. I think the majority of the audience dont think the games are getting dumping down

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Post » Sat Dec 05, 2015 9:23 pm

Hmm, I think... And offcourse just my oppinion...

I really enjoy that there is finally a voice to my character. Personally... I can abstract from the fact that the voice might not be exactly what I "expect" ... I have a much harder time of that with no voice.

I prefer a voice... So offcourse there's gonna be a compromise between number of options. I'm ok with that.

That said, a few more options, would have been great. Especially an option to, just push people / quest / questline, completely away.

I'm also not a big fan of the dialogue wheel as it works currently. First of all I find it flaky in activating, sometimes at a bad time, interfering with ordering companions around... and lastly and most importantly: It does not adequately describe what your options are (I really prefer a full transcription with... sarcasm, loving, endearing, angry something) and not least ... a real timeout to ponder what I want to say...

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Post » Sat Dec 05, 2015 8:32 pm

Or they're just fine with it. The real question is, would they mind it wasn't "dumbed down"? Guess we'll never know. ;)

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