I finished Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel on co-operative mode last night, and as the credits rolled I was forced to ask myself one single question. Why does everybody dislike this game so much?

While I agree that it lacked polish and didn't remain true to the lore of the original Fallout games, it was still an enjoyable action RPG, especially when played on co-operative mode. It also had a few hilarious moments, such as Rhombus the paladin running on ahead of the party and getting himself killed by a single attack from a ghoul. Perhaps that's just my sense of humour though.

I want to make it clear that I have indeed finished the main storyline of Fallout, Fallout 2 and Fallout 3. But if viewed as a completely separate game, Brotherhood of Steel is a decent co-op adventure in its own right. I just think it gets an unfair amount of criticism due to branching away from the original lore.

Putting the lore issues aside, what reason do people have for disliking Brotherhood of Steel? I'm just curious.

Huh?

There isn't any co-op in F3, I don't know if you mean you had an A.I follower?Charon,fawkes etc?

Brotherhood of Steel is the Action RPG released exclusively on consoles.

Fallout 3 does indeed, have no co-op mode, but that game isn't universally hated either.

He's talking about Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel, not about Fallout 3.

By my understanding, BoS is near-universally reviled by... not sticking in line with the established Canon. It seems that if a game/movie is part of a franchise, it needs to stick with the franchise or risk being deemed "horrible."

For example, If they made a James Bond movie that did away with all the super-spyness/action and upped the romance parts; there'd be a lot of PO'ed James Bond fans tearing down the studio doors. Nevermind that that said movie was otherwise a great movie and wins several Oscars. The fans feel betrayed by the studio that made it; and the franchise as a whole can suffer from it.

Well, with a marketing department as effective as Bethesda's, Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel would have sold a million copies.

hahaha fail

i honestly never even tried BOS. i saw trailers and stuff and it looked like a 3rd person shoot-em-up gauntlet legends with guns. i didn't realize it had an RPG component. i might buy it for 4.99 next time i'm at gamestop

Ahhhh, my mistake, I never played BOS. I thought he was talking about broken steel, my bad.

Mostly it was because of, it was an action game, and it didn't make sense canon wise.

That might have been a solid argument if BoS was any good from any angle.

Heh. I never played BoS, personally, and it was an argument specifically for Caidiana (who had enjoyed the game.)

Brotherhood of Steel is a lot like Marvel Ultimate Alliance. If you ignore the storyline and play it with a group of friends, it's fun. If you play by yourself and focus on the plot, the game isn't fun. But, you are correct in stating that most of the hate is directed at the lore, plot, and setting of the game. Taken together, that is a significant chunk of any game.

It never took off on the consoles because it was basically a rehash of Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance II set in the wasteland. Dark Alliance had a respectable following, but it wasn't huge and Dark Alliance II wasn't anything really new when compared to the original. Not to mention that fans of the Fallout IP were PC gamers. Gamers all over know of the D&D setting, especially that stupid Drow, so BoS lacked the kind of appeal even Dark Alliance had. X-Men Legends came out shortly after BoS and it was overall a better action rpg in every way. Not to mention that Halo 2, Half-Life 2, Metal Gear Solid 3, KOTOR II, and VtM:B all launched that year. Whether you like action games or RPGs, there was no reason to pick up BoS.

Combine the above and I think the hate is pretty understandable. Here we have a game that neither Fallout fans or console gamers wanted.

Perhaps, but the game is very good, however, is undeniable. I think it's a good addition to the Fallout series.

History is still not too bad (better than Fallout 3 for me) and sometimes I prefer to play this game at the expense of Fallout 3.

Read my reply to the topic " Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel " for those who are still will ask questions :

http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=1039037&st=20&start=20

For infos, I played at the Five Fallout when they are released. Don't worry, I have not start the Fallout series with Fallout 3 =p

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but anyway i have never played BOS any chance of getting it cheap somewhere?

I had a look on eBay and they have some cheap copies there. Still not 100% sure if I want to buy it myself though.

I Will Take A Look My Self Then

See you have to ask yourself did you enjoy it the same way you enjoy the "classic" fallout games? Or was it just the action thta was fun?

Probably the latter, apparently it's nothing like the originals.

and thats the reason, behind all the folks who say it's a crappy Fallout game. Thats was my point Same reason folks don't like Fo3 as a "fallout game" really.

I can understand that now after playing the first 2.

huh, you changed your avatar laurajay, looks nice make it yourself? I can't quite make out whats in his mouth? Candy bar?

Yeah I drew it to compensate for the lack of New Vegas info we have. He has a gambling card in his mouth.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_abNb4IlxoJY/SpbSjemvudI/AAAAAAAAAW8/E9lRoz7r1y4/s1600-h/new_vegas.jpg

I just saw a copy of BoS on eBay for ?5...*ponder moment*

I don't think anyone would say that BoS is a good game even if you take Fallout of the title.

Nice sketch LJ!

Talon I'll give yo uthat but some folks like those kind of games...Just like some folks like "bad" B movies.

Wait, you...you sat through that?
You are stonger than I.