Not sure where this post of mine came from..... Oh well, I'll use the post slot. Skyrim needs to be double the size of Cyrodiil say we can crap ourselves that it is so huge.

I believe Bethesda is being very careful about what screens they show us. So when they reveal the actual scale of Skyrim, we'll be blown away.

Skyrim is smaller : whahhh ! it's smaaaaaller !
Skyrim is bigger : whaaaaah ! It's going to be all empty and undetailled !

Damned if you do...

Scale. They knew how big Morrowind's scale was and they knew how big Vardenfell was compared to Cyrodiil so they were complaining that Oblivion's scale was smaller than that of Morrowind and it is.

Ah, misinterpreted that, my bad. Hmm, seems like a silly thing to be complaining about though lol.

If they use the same scale as Morrowind it should be about 1.75 x Oblivion.

It does not matter how big a province is compared to another, Beth will just scale it to there needs.

I still say I want Daggerfall size :tongue: No one would complain about fast travel anymore.

After reading some information about Morrowind and Oblivion in UESP my worries are gone.

Oblivion has 8 (Not counting Kvatch) main cities. About 30~ "settlements" (Villages, farms and places populated with friendly NPCs) One of those major cities is the big Imperial City, which is split into 10 parts.

Morrowind has 4 main cities. About 23~ "settlements" (Towns, Imperial Forts, not counting camps). One of those major cities is the gigantic Vivec City, which is split into 10 parts like IC.

Skyrim is going to have 5 "massive" cities (Still sounds vague because we don't know if by massive they just wanted to mean major, and not massive in scale.) If they follow the trend, there will be one really huge main city like Vivec City and Imperial City. Probably about 25-35~ "settlements", unknown size but hopefully as big as Morrowind's which was enough and a pretty good size.

Morrowind's 3 main cities not counting Vivec City, was not nearly as big as the ones in Oblivion in scale.

Markarth Side already looks bigger than any of Oblivion's cities (Not counting IC). And it still seems to me that there will be an even larger city akin to Vivec City and IC.

Period.

In terms of landscape scale, it seems to be as big or bigger than Cyrodiil was in Oblivion. At least as big as Capital Wasteland which was already bigger than Vvardenfell.

I'd say Skyrim is going to be the best features of each world together. Cyrodiil's size (about 16~ square miles), Capital Wasteland's detail, Morrowind's quantitity and quality of the "dungeons" we can explore.

Period.

Long story, short: Skyrim will gather the best that each BGS game had in terms of exploration, size and world detail into one awesome world. This, is a pretty realistic thought and very likely to happen. Cities, towns, villages and settlements will have a good size and a decent amount of content to keep us busy. Judging by what we've seen so far, Riverwood which is a small logging community already seems full of all sorts of great things to do! Imagine the big cities and towns.

Not worrying at all, anymore! Go Bethesda!

I put the link to Markarth Side screen back in the OP, I'm not sure why it was removed :wacko:

we are also missing the whole other side of that screen, we have no idea how big markath actually is.

I personally want the map to be massive bigger than Cyrodiil, I am seriously hopeing it will be the biggest single player game ever made crammed with rich detail and a vibrant world that will keep us glued to our TV's or PC's. At least thats what I am hopeing for. I dont fear that the world will be to big and empty I have faith they can make it more alive and over all generally more rewarding, I am worried that they might make it to small but there is talk that this is their biggest game world yet, I seen that that somewhere here on the forums not sure where. :confused:

Bigger than daggerfall would be pretty insane, and I wouldn't want it like that honestly... maybe double oblivions size... it would feel massive but still not big enough for it not to be detailed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2M1vv1FfCL4

Skyrim will no doubt be huge, but it just won't get anywhere near Daggerfall, which currently holds the title of the largest game world ever made by a wide margin. It is 10,000 times the size of the world in Morrowind.

What can I say I play these games for hundreds and hundreds probably thousands of hours, so yes I always want more ity would be insane, but in a good way.

just by looking at the skyrim screenshot of the city again, the cities are going to be massive! but i dont really mind how large the npc population in the major cities is going to be though

Nice :rofl: .

I dont doubt it will be huge, it would be awesome if Skyrim could be bigger than Daggerfall, I dont relly know its size never played it but from your discription it sounds big, but one could always hope for the best, right? :unsure:

How can you tell how large the city is from that shot? It shows nothing like the whole city. Just a few roofs, a tower and some doorways. It's like complaining the IC in Oblivion is tiny by seeing the top of White Gold Tower.

When they do an animated fly-over of the whole city, like the one at the start of Oblivion, then I'll say I've seen most of it, but not until them.

But a game that big would takes year and year AND years to make. Daggerfall was randomized, which is the only reason It could work. And I personally want a hand crafted world, not a fan of random anything when it comes to rpg's.. maybe with a few exceptions I can't think of right now

Well if you think about it, Morrowind was 10 sq. mi and Oblivion was 16 sq. mi. Daggerfall was 63125 square miles so I was a little off on my approximation of 10,000 times bigger, that approximation was based on the comment that Morrowind was .01% the size of Daggerfall. Now these are the exact numbers, so yeah, let your mind run wild imagining Daggerfall with the graphics of Oblivion bliviongate:



Look at the screen, you can see multiple layers that stretch into the distance down in the bottom of the chasm and off toward the waterfalls and you can tell that's not all of it because there are rooftops in the bottom-left of the picture.

I hope you are right

Minecraft is now number 1.

I thought someone said that was just a picture of a dwemer ruin, I guess it could be considered a city