My First day Of High School : Othor Games

» Sat Apr 17, 2010 2:49 pm

They do matter, Orzorn, for 4 long, long years. It's easy to say, as someone in college, that high school problems didn't matter, and you're right, they don't matter now. But while you're trapped in High School for 4 years? You bet your ass they matter.

I must have missed out then.

» Sat Apr 17, 2010 6:53 am

Just wear a gas mask, a trench coat , black pants, military boots, and talk in Russian.
Everyone in your school will fear you.

» Sat Apr 17, 2010 9:36 am

Make friends with whomever sits beside you. If you're gonna be stuck together then you might as well make friends while you're there. And contrary to this forum's advice, do not avoid the upperclassmen, they are some of the funniest and coolest people you'll ever meet.

» Sat Apr 17, 2010 6:15 pm

They only matter as much as they matter TO YOU. Things are only a problem as much as you MAKE THEM ONE YOURSELF.

It kinda frightens me how a person can detach himself so much from his humanity. You can't make yourself a problem, but you can determine how you will deal with a problem.

Say someone was making up rumors behind your back.

You can either go totally overboard and full out have a fight with them.

Or you can ignore it, because the only people who would listen to or believe those are the same people you don't care about anyways.

Or it can be so persistent that a little freshman girl will have to resort to killing herself, cause so few people cared enough to help her.

Even more so, don't even socialize with people who aren't your close friends.

More bad advice that leads to social akwardness in the future.

You don't have to talk to these people, and if you, for any reason think its important that you do, that's your own problem that you created yourself.

So wanting to get to other people outside your little clique is a problem? It's like listening to a cult leader....

Trust me, I was in high school for as long as everybody else is.

"Trust me, drink the kool-aid and everything will be alright".

» Sat Apr 17, 2010 7:52 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmrgXdjFaoQ

They only matter as much as they matter TO YOU. Things are only a problem as much as you MAKE THEM ONE YOURSELF.

Say someone was making up rumors behind your back.

You can either go totally overboard and full out have a fight with them.

Or you can ignore it, because the only people who would listen to or believe those are the same people you don't care about anyways.

Even more so, don't even socialize with people who aren't your close friends. You don't have to talk to these people, and if you, for any reason think its important that you do, that's your own problem that you created yourself.

Trust me, I was in high school for as long as everybody else is.

"Ignore them" is generally the advice out of touch parents give their kids when they say they're being bullied in elementary school. And as most people should be aware, ignoring bullies in elementary school never worked.

And yes Orzorn, I was aware that you're whole "These problems matter" philosophy was based on that family guy clip, you didn't have to prove it to me. Basing personal philosophies on family guy clips is never really a good idea.

I think it's clear that the people posting in this thread have all had very, very different experiences in high school. At least we can all agree on one bit of advice: Don't ever mention Lucario.

» Sat Apr 17, 2010 9:42 am

Bloody hell, this thread makes US High School's sound like a daily fight for survival. :mellow:

My time at High School was pleasant, with no open warfare, horrible older students or knifings whatsoever. I wasnt part of the "cool" group but still was on talking status with everyone and had a large group of people I considered close friends. Univeristy on the other hand has proven for me to be a very different story. Its very impersonal, much harder to make friends and basically I've found it much less enjoyable than I thought I would

» Sat Apr 17, 2010 8:07 am

"Ignore them" is generally the advice out of touch parents give their kids when they say they're being bullied in elementary school. And as most people should be aware, ignoring bullies in elementary school never worked.

And yes Orzorn, I was aware that you're whole "These problems matter" philosophy was based on that family guy clip, you didn't have to prove it to me. Basing personal philosophies on family guy clips is never really a good idea.

I think it's clear that the people posting in this thread have all had very, very different experiences in high school. At least we can all agree on one bit of advice: Don't ever mention Lucario.

Bullies are a different problem. I'm talking about SOCIAL things here, we all have been.

Besides, bullies can generally be defeated through a good old fashioned beatdown, but that's neither here nor there that something like that should be happening anyways. As I said, I was talking about the social aspects of High School.

Which, guess what, don't matter. Your friends matter, and no one else. If they aren't your friend, the might as well not exist to you.

» Sat Apr 17, 2010 10:24 am

Bloody hell, this thread makes US High School's sound like a daily fight for survival. :mellow:

It depends very much on where you are. California schools, imo, aren't nearly as good as Texas schools, but both are better than Washington schools. Both academically (except maybe california....) and socially.

But I would never want to go to high school is Nevada, New Mexico, Massachusetts, or New York.

My time at High School was pleasant, with no open warfare, horrible older students or knifings whatsoever. I wasnt part of the "cool" group but still was on talking status with everyone and had a large group of people I considered close friends. Univeristy on the other hand has proven for me to be a very different story. Its very impersonal, much harder to make friends and basically I've found it much less enjoyable than I thought I would

My high schools were nice, too. You'd think being the new kid twice would be hard, but it was only hard in California. But that still doesn't excuse that to the majority of people, having an obsession with a thing made for ten year olds is considered weird.

As for college, the one I'm heading to is actually really personal and friendly. But mine is also relatively small compared to one like...UT or A&M.

» Sat Apr 17, 2010 8:13 pm

Bullies are a different problem. I'm talking about SOCIAL things here, we all have been.

Besides, bullies can generally be defeated through a good old fashioned beatdown, but that's neither here nor there that something like that should be happening anyways. As I said, I was talking about the social aspects of High School.

Which, guess what, don't matter. Your friends matter, and no one else. If they aren't your friend, the might as well not exist to you.

"Good old fashioned beatdowns" led to students getting assault charges on their criminal records when I went to high school. This isn't the 20th century anymore, school administrations are incredibly paranoid and love handing out the harshest punishments for the smallest of incidents.

Social problems are just as bad as bullying. I'm not talking about "Oh my god Stephanie, Bobby said he didn't like my dress today," I'm talking about actual social bullying, the kind that kids kill themselves over. I'm with Verlox, you only have to look at the many high school students in history who have committed suicide to see that high school problems very much do matter.

» Sat Apr 17, 2010 4:10 pm

My high schools were nice, too. You'd think being the new kid twice would be hard, but it was only hard in California. But that still doesn't excuse that to the majority of people, having an obsession with a thing made for ten year olds is considered weird.

As for college, the one I'm heading to is actually really personal and friendly. But mine is also relatively small compared to one like...UT or A&M.

The University I'm at (The University of New South Wales) has something like 50,000 students, so its not really small :unsure:

» Sat Apr 17, 2010 6:38 pm

The University I'm at (The University of New South Wales) has something like 50,000 students, so its not really small :unsure:

Which makes it more impersonal.

I believe mine as somewhere between 8000 and 9500.

» Sat Apr 17, 2010 6:11 am

I'm scared... I know nobody there because I'm switching districts. Any tips and how was your Freshman year?

I went through the same thing. My Freshman year was good, although I made lousy grades...

» Sat Apr 17, 2010 3:51 pm

I graduated high school this May and am probably not going to miss it. I had pretty good grades and a lot of friends, I just didn't like to be told what classes I had to take. I'm looking foward to college though.

And some of you guys must have went to some pretty rough high schools. There were maybe two or three fights a year at mine only :laugh: . And most of them were girl fights :hehe: .

» Sat Apr 17, 2010 9:37 am

THEY MATTER AS MUCH AS THEY MATTER TO YOU.

EXACTLY

Dont let it get to you. High School is the real world youtube, some people are going to love you no matter how much you svck *Lady Gaga*
Some people are going to hate you for no reason *Justin Beiber*
Some people are going to ignore you *Everyone that doesnt comment on youtube*
and 1 or 2 people will be your friend *People who understand the PM System*

» Sat Apr 17, 2010 7:46 am

"Good old fashioned beatdowns" led to students getting assault charges on their criminal records when I went to high school. This isn't the 20th century anymore, school administrations are incredibly paranoid and love handing out the harshest punishments for the smallest of incidents.

Social problems are just as bad as bullying. I'm not talking about "Oh my god Stephanie, Bobby said he didn't like my dress today," I'm talking about actual social bullying, the kind that kids kill themselves over. I'm with Verlox, you only have to look at the many high school students in history who have committed suicide to see that high school problems very much do matter.

Since when did this become a ridiculous thread about SUICIDE?

We're talking about SOCIAL things in HIGH SCHOOL. Suicide happens, sure, but it definitely happened due to inabilities of people to deal with problems, self confidence issues, and other such things.

It's like if Peace Pullet opens his mouth you all act as if half of the upper class men will jump on him and beat him to death within an inch of his life. If someone gave me crap, I told them to piss off and went back to talking to my friends. Quite LITERALLY. I'm sorry if you have some inability to cope with problems, but I did not. If people gave me or my friends crap, we banded together, dealt with it quickly, and went back to what we were doing.

A good example is this:
We were playing Magic one day. The local village [censored] bag comes up and starts screwing with our cards. He enjoyed doing that. So he takes one of them (a land, totally worthless, but the point is that he was messing with our stuff for no reason). We tell him to give it back. He won't.

So my friend grabs the sack of crap, throws him on the wall, and hoists him up by his collar while we wring his hands out to get our card back. Problem dealt with. We let him go, he doesn't mess with us anymore after that.

Its either a temporary problem that you IMMEDIATELY SOLVE, or its a permanent one because of your own apathy.

» Sat Apr 17, 2010 5:38 am

It is extremely over hyped my first year was a breeze, just make a lot of friends in higher grades... most of my friends were juniors.

» Sat Apr 17, 2010 6:50 am

Don't sweat it, I go to the worst high school in the district ( we've been on the news 4 times this year, one for a gang fight and another for someone threatening to shoot up the school) and it isn't as bad as people say. Nobody really gives a damn about your interests just as long as you don't act childish. Best advice is to not act childish and you should be fine. As far as friends go try to make some who like you for who you are and they don't necessarily have to have the same interests as you, hell I hang out with a stoner, a WoW player, a football player, one those "gangster kids", some prep, and we all get along fine. They know I'm into RPG's and stuff like that but they don't care. If you wanna talk about pokemon and such see if your school has an anime club and join. Good luck

» Sat Apr 17, 2010 6:43 am

"Good old fashioned beatdowns" led to students getting assault charges on their criminal records when I went to high school. This isn't the 20th century anymore, school administrations are incredibly paranoid and love handing out the harshest punishments for the smallest of incidents.

Social problems are just as bad as bullying. I'm not talking about "Oh my god Stephanie, Bobby said he didn't like my dress today," I'm talking about actual social bullying, the kind that kids kill themselves over. I'm with Verlox, you only have to look at the many high school students in history who have committed suicide to see that high school problems very much do matter.

I agree that Social AND academic problems matter now, as well as when I was still in school ( back in the 80's).
I went to school with a kid who shot himself in the head over social problems in school. His younger brother was left to deal with this loss in school. I knew another kid who was two months from graduation, who wound up doing prison time due to these social problems that were left unchecked. These same social problems that some seem to think don't matter are mistaken. They matter in today's day and age just as much as they did during my school years.

» Sat Apr 17, 2010 8:54 am

In high school I was an openly bisixual male in rural Nebraska. Anyone who kills themself over what some other [censored] has to say about them is weak and stupid. If somebody physically attacks you, take out all the rage you have on them, it doesnt matter if you win or not, just make them hurt as much as possible, you will never be messed with again. If you kill yourself over a bully you are a moron, and your suicide is part of Darwinian Natural Selection.

:shakehead:

» Sat Apr 17, 2010 8:43 am

If you're having problems making friends, wear one of http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/314OoqV7z-L._SL500_AA300_.jpg. It's a great conversation starter. And it keeps your head toasty.

Seriously, it works.

» Sat Apr 17, 2010 9:47 am

Its either a temporary problem that you IMMEDIATELY SOLVE, or its a permanent one because of your own apathy.

Again, you oversimplify things. Most things in life, and in high school, can't be "immediately solved." What you did to that guy who stole your card? If a teacher saw you do that in my school, you'd be in the office talking to the cops. The guy who stole the card would get off without punishment because you overreacted, and his theft is insignificant in comparison you and your friends laying your hands on him. Now, I recognize that not every school is as paranoid as mine, but I can assure you that not everything is as simple as you seem to think it is. What worked for you does not work for everyone else.

Suicide happens, sure, but it definitely happened due to inabilities of people to deal with problems, self confidence issues, and other such things.

My personal stance on suicide is that it's a cowards way out, and those who do it are very weak. That does not, however, mean that I am ignorant to the problems these people were facing. Not everyone who commits suicide is just an idiot who vastly exaggerates their problems. They may be weak but their problems are very real, a fact that you don't seem to understand or want to acknowledge.

Now, this is BGSF, so I'm not entirely surprised that this topic drifted so far off the rails from what it was supposed to be about. But Peace Bullet, let me give you the last bit of advice you'll get in this thread, and that is that I'm pretty sure everyone is done giving you advice.

» Sat Apr 17, 2010 7:27 am

:shakehead:

You dont understand. Its simple, if your gay in a small town you kick somebody in the head or you put up with BS forever. I dont like to put up with BS. You have to do it, because the administration also knows and they aren't going to help a queer.

» Sat Apr 17, 2010 5:20 am

In high school I was an openly bisixual male in rural Nebraska. Anyone who kills themself over what some other [censored] has to say about them is weak and stupid. If somebody physically attacks you, take out all the rage you have on them, it doesnt matter if you win or not, just make them hurt as much as possible, you will never be messed with again. If you kill yourself over a bully you are a moron, and your suicide is part of Darwinian Natural Selection.

For most people though it never even becomes and issue.

My Bully Story:

So Im coming home after school on my bicycle and some redneck boys grab me off of it and form a circle around me. They start calling me a [censored] and so on.
Now I grew up with an abusive father so these little boys didnt intimidate me. I was a goth kid and had those trip pants with the chain links across the back. I just walked up and hit the biggest one of them as hard as I could in the nose, and he started bleeding. His Buddies left him there with me.

He's crying and so on and I says to him "Good friends you got there huh?"
"I guess not. Can we just let this thing go?" He says.
I put my arm up around him... said "No buddy I dont think we can."

I proceeded to unchain my trip pants and beat the SOB with them until he stopped moving.

Nobody bothered me after that.

So what Im saying is youll generally be OK, but if somebody is really wanting to harm you. Just cut loose on them and beat them with as much anger as you can summon. Itll be the end of that.

First saying people killing themselves is darwinism, then saying how your story as a kid was how you beat a kid with a chain. Your bully story makes you no better than the bully, infact it makes you as bad as those who carry weapons.

@ ZakariusSvedlin there is a difference between self defence, and what you did, your actions fall more under the psychotic sadist catagory than the self defence one.
One thing to punch someone another to beat them repeatedly with a chain, when its pretty clear they have learned their lesson.

» Sat Apr 17, 2010 3:26 pm

But Peace Bullet, let me give you the last bit of advice you'll get in this thread, and that is that I'm pretty sure everyone is done giving you advice.

Wait! I got one more things to say.

Don't take a crap at school if you can avoid it. For some reason I can't fathom, you get wragged on for that.

You dont understand. Its simple, if your gay in a small town you kick somebody in the head or you put up with BS forever. I dont like to put up with BS.

I understand just fine. You are violently unstable.

» Sat Apr 17, 2010 8:03 am

Don't take a crap at school if you can avoid it. For some reason I can't fathom, you get wragged on for that.

What the HELL kind of ass backwards school do you go to? Good lord, its like you act as if you can't take a STEP in school without getting accosted. "The brown tiles are lava! Don't read paperback books! No candy except M&Ms!"

I understand just fine. You are violently unstable.

So first its all about "oh bullies this, oh bullies that. They're real problems and we need to deal with them!" and when somebody deals with it in on of the very few ways a kid has access to, they're a monster for defending themselves?

Is it hard to breathe all the way up on such a high horse?

Edit: although beating him with the chain was pretty far, but it DOES drive the point home...