anybody else agree that the first dlc should be free due to the fact we bought a game riddled with bugs and have yet to have a patch ? maybe even throw it in with the patch thats very over due.

Yeah, just one free map would be nice.

Agreed.

I love the game, but at the end of the day, I seem to have paid ￡40 for a pre Alpha code.

I have heard that Microsoft limit the size of patches.

Maybe DLC is the only way of fixing the game if that is the case.

If they charge for DLC that fixes the game, they can get ****.

Agreed.

I love the game, but at the end of the day, I seem to have paid ￡40 for a pre Alpha code.

I have heard that Microsoft limit the size of patches.

Maybe DLC is the only way of fixing the game if that is the case.

If they charge for DLC that fixes the game, they can get ****.

Not really Pre-alpha I'd say it early/mid way Beta but no way is it a Final build.

And I don't understand the Reasonwhy Ms limits the size of patches unless its so people dont fill up their hard drives with patches so quickly.

Why don't they develop a system where the patch rewrites whats on the disk instead? I don't know.

Its EA.....never going to happen

Reminds me of SW The Force Unleashed II.....there was such a massive negative feedback due to the sheer shortness of the game, that to try and make amends, the first DLC for the game was sold for a $1.....80MSP, so not quite free but DLC for the cost of an Avatar shirt was impossible to turn down

Shame it didnt set a precident for other publishers to follow suit

We deserve, we put up with this much crap.

We deserve, we put up with this much crap.

Microsoft doesnt think you deserve anything and they are the ones who started all this charging for DLC and not to mention they set the price and take a bigger margain of the profit.

LMAO at the MS bashing....oh I love it

I remember the days of the original Unreal Tournament... It did so well sales wise that EPIC released a free map pack with about 12 maps in it, new game modes etc.

Awesome days.

Could join a server... What? You dont have the map? BANG! It would automaticly download it. Awesome stuff.

I cringe when I pay for maps, but if they are proffesionally made, I guess you have to.

I just want a patch.

If they can fix the game online, I will buy every map pack they release because although the game is broken, when it works, and sometimes it does, its a joy to play.

Yes free DLC... awesome. But not gonna happen because EA, well, is EA and they never change.

I think that the Road Rage area should be added as a MP map. Come on these locations are built into the game already it should be easy to implement them into the MP. There are so many locations built into the SP game that would make a great MP map. It is doing a disservice to the MP aspect of the game to not allow more of the locations to be open to MP. Just my opinion.

I am tired of Pier 17 and SkyLine, every time I join MP, what the first maps that appear? Yep those two maps, every time I tell you. Plus Crash Site is a map that is set up for other game modes than Team Deathmatch or FFA.

Don't get me wrong I do enjoy the game but those aspects are repetitive and boring.

They Might just use the money they earn from the DLC to patch the game :/

They Might just use the money they earn from the DLC to patch the game :/
Gentlemen?

Free is always a good price.

Yep first DLC should cost us totally NOTHING, as a gift to us for all the issues this game has. it would keep those hardcoe crazy whiny kids happy too.

Its EA.....never going to happen


bad company 2 is ea too, they never charged for new maps.
okay, those were not really new maps, but mods from different gametypes and SP, but still: they added fresh feeling to gameplay and the game was delivered with much more maps than C2 is.
plus - i'm not up to date cause i coudln't care less for DLC with the ongoing issues - are the DLC maps really new maps? they easily could be SP mods too...
just saying, never say never.

Luckily for us, it would seem that Crytek is a powerful enough company under EA that they have more freedom with their game (they opted out of an online pass, which you see in almost every game these days). They could probably release a free DLC with little argument from EA, but to say that you're entitled to that is, unfortunately, bull-. For the majority of people playing, the game is fine; you, my friends, are the vocal minority. That's not to say that the people who do have game breaking problems shouldn't be treated special, but it's impossible to tell who you are to be compensated (any Joe Cheapskate can claim a game breaking bug for free DLC). Sorry, simply the facts.

The mentality that the game industry has adapted annoys me with a supreme passion. I'm all for DLC but the thing is a lot stuff released is stuff that really should have been released on the disk. What pisses me off the most is that (using Transformers: War for Cybertron as an example) some DLC is just a code to unlock stuff that is on the disk. I mean WTF!? I'm paying to unlock content on the disk I paid for!? Why cna't a game be released whole? Why do video games seem to be more money-focused today? I remember Capcom announcing DLC for MvC3 a week before the game's release!

Like I said, I'm all for DLC (if it's well worth the price). This game is good so if the maps are really good as in big and suitable for snipers then I'll buy it AFTER a patch. If the patch is in the DLC as some games do then I'll stop playing until justice is served.

I don't see this happening.

Luckily for us, it would seem that Crytek is a powerful enough company under EA that they have more freedom with their game (they opted out of an online pass, which you see in almost every game these days). They could probably release a free DLC with little argument from EA, but to say that you're entitled to that is, unfortunately, bull-. For the majority of people playing, the game is fine; you, my friends, are the vocal minority. That's not to say that the people who do have game breaking problems shouldn't be treated special, but it's impossible to tell who you are to be compensated (any Joe Cheapskate can claim a game breaking bug for free DLC). Sorry, simply the facts.

The fact is, the product the "vocal minority" bought doesnt work as it should! In any other business those same people would/should be able to demand said product is corrected, or recieve repayment in full. No ifs, no buts! Why should it be any different for a video game developer? It doesnt matter if its only a few people, the service that they are supposed to be providing isnt working, period!
If a plumber, builder or roofer tried to get away with what developers are lately, they would end up in jail!

Luckily for us, it would seem that Crytek is a powerful enough company under EA that they have more freedom with their game (they opted out of an online pass, which you see in almost every game these days). They could probably release a free DLC with little argument from EA, but to say that you're entitled to that is, unfortunately, bull-. For the majority of people playing, the game is fine; you, my friends, are the vocal minority. That's not to say that the people who do have game breaking problems shouldn't be treated special, but it's impossible to tell who you are to be compensated (any Joe Cheapskate can claim a game breaking bug for free DLC). Sorry, simply the facts.

The fact is, the product the "vocal minority" bought doesnt work as it should! In any other business those same people would/should be able to demand said product is corrected, or recieve repayment in full. No ifs, no buts! Why should it be any different for a video game developer? It doesnt matter if its only a few people, the service that they are supposed to be providing isnt working, period!
If a plumber, builder or roofer tried to get away with what developers are lately, they would end up in jail!
If a plumber, builder or roofer worked on 100 house's having never known the owners, then some owners call them up and declare that something was wrong, the contractor would have no idea who they were. it's a similar situation here. I'd LOVE for you to be compensated, but it won't happen, because you and the problem (as a together) are untraceable.

Luckily for us, it would seem that Crytek is a powerful enough company under EA that they have more freedom with their game (they opted out of an online pass, which you see in almost every game these days). They could probably release a free DLC with little argument from EA, but to say that you're entitled to that is, unfortunately, bull-. For the majority of people playing, the game is fine; you, my friends, are the vocal minority. That's not to say that the people who do have game breaking problems shouldn't be treated special, but it's impossible to tell who you are to be compensated (any Joe Cheapskate can claim a game breaking bug for free DLC). Sorry, simply the facts.

The fact is, the product the "vocal minority" bought doesnt work as it should! In any other business those same people would/should be able to demand said product is corrected, or recieve repayment in full. No ifs, no buts! Why should it be any different for a video game developer? It doesnt matter if its only a few people, the service that they are supposed to be providing isnt working, period!
If a plumber, builder or roofer tried to get away with what developers are lately, they would end up in jail!
If a plumber, builder or roofer worked on 100 house's having never known the owners, then some owners call them up and declare that something was wrong, the contractor would have no idea who they were. it's a similar situation here. I'd LOVE for you to be compensated, but it won't happen, because you and the problem (as a together) are untraceable.


This issue here is that trades are a regulated industry, subject to government legislation and legal standards that set a precendent and level of professional conduct that can and must be maintained. Digital industries don't have the same level of legisaltion surrounding them, it isn't because of the size of the industry of it's worth to the economy, but rather the speed at which technology is adapted and taken up by the populace that out paces any form of regualtion that can be researched and implemented. And this problem is getting worse.

Most digital technologies follow the law of accelerating returns, getting better in leaps and bounds, the times it takes for improvements to be ready for comercial adaption are shrinking constantly. Trades don't follow the same law, it literally takes anywhere up to millenia for methods of construction to be standardised. It also doesn't help that the video games industry is viewed by elder generations as the realm of children and youths, which is evidently not the case (agrue that point all you want, the average global age of the gamer is 30).

This is why I have previously lamented the lack of community solidarity amongst gamers, only we can fix this, but more often than not we fall prey to bickering and pointless in-fighting. It will be up to us, the current generations, to seek a mandate to have these issues addressed, and it will take some exceptional statesperson's to have any serious level of attention focused upon the issue at hand. I don't see this happening any time soon, but I do think it can be achieved. More people come to see these problems with each passing year, and more individuals are seeking unity rather than fostering inter-platorm resentments, but it is occuring slowly, and only more education in the realm of legisation, business, games development and distribution is going to yeild results that can be made real and amount to change.

Anyway - that is far, far off topic. Sorry for derailing the thread. Just wanted to get my thoughts across.

- MullPig

Yep free DLC because last time i bought dlc was waste because cheaper packs were released wtf

lets see hwat happens....

anybody else agree that the first dlc should be free due to the fact we bought a game riddled with bugs and have yet to have a patch ? maybe even throw it in with the patch thats very over due.
Hell yes!!!

Should be...

But it won't...