First Person camera clipping through wallsobjects glitch... : V

» Tue Jun 16, 2015 10:54 pm

I'm having this problem where if you get too close to a wall or object in first person, the camera clips through, most often on edges, sometimes in the middle, and you can see whatever is behind (which usually isn't anything good or anything the player is supposed to see). It's not a collision issue per se, as I can't walk through the walls/objects, merely see through them. It isn't completely game breaking, but it may as well be since it is very immersion breaking when it happens.

I feel like this can be remedied with some setting either in ini or the video card options but I can't find any specific info about this glitch and all the "general tweaking" guides are severely outdated. I've been trying to tweak my settings to get the best graphics possible at a decent playable performance, but so much info is very outdated, including the guide here from 2011...

I have "NVIDIA GeForce GTX 550 Ti" graphics card and the latest patch for Skyrim, including the Unofficial patches, Dragonborn, Dawnguard, and the patches for those. I am not using an ENB, but I may use one just for shadows eventually, once I get all the LOD settings, etc. right.

I will post my SkyrimPrefs.ini in spoiler tag..

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[General]
fBrightLightColorB=1.0000
fBrightLightColorG=1.0000
fBrightLightColorR=1.0000
iStoryManagerLoggingEvent=-1
bEnableStoryManagerLogging=0
[Imagespace]
bDoDepthOfField=1
iRadialBlurLevel=2
[Display]
iBlurDeferredShadowMask=4
fInteriorShadowDistance=2500.0000
fShadowDistance=3800.0000
iShadowMapResolutionSecondary=2048
iShadowMapResolutionPrimary=4096
iShadowSplitCount=2
iMaxAnisotropy=16
fLeafAnimDampenDistEnd=4600.0000
fLeafAnimDampenDistStart=3600.0000
fTreesMidLODSwitchDist=9999999.0000
fGamma=1.0400
fDecalLOD2=1500.0000
fDecalLOD1=1000.0000
fSpecularLODStartFade=2000.0000
fShadowLODStartFade=200.0000
fLightLODStartFade=7000.0000
iTexMipMapMinimum=4
iTexMipMapSkip=0
iWaterMultiSamples=0
iMultiSample=16
iShadowMode=4
bTreesReceiveShadows=1
bDrawLandShadows=0
bFull Screen=1
iSize H=1080
iSize W=1920
fMeshLODFadePercentDefault=1.2000
fMeshLODFadeBoundDefault=256.0000
fMeshLODLevel2FadeTreeDistance=2048.0000
fMeshLODLevel1FadeTreeDistance=2844.0000
fMeshLODLevel2FadeDist=9999999.0000
fMeshLODLevel1FadeDist=9999999.0000
iScreenShotIndex=2
bShadowMaskZPrepass=0
bMainZPrepass=0
iMaxSkinDecalsPerFrame=25
iMaxDecalsPerFrame=100
bFloatPointRenderTarget=0
sD3DDevice="NVIDIA GeForce GTX 550 Ti"
bFXAAEnabled=0
iShadowMapResolution=4096
fShadowBiasScale=0.25
iShadowMaskQuarter=4
iAdapter=0
iPresentInterval=1
iShadowFilter=3
bTransparencyMultisampling=0
bDrawShadows=1
[Grass]
b30GrassVS=0
fGrassStartFadeDistance=7000.0000
fGrassMaxStartFadeDistance=7000.0000
fGrassMinStartFadeDistance=0.0000
[MAIN]
bGamepadEnable=0
bCrosshairEnabled=0
fHUDOpacity=0.4000
bSaveOnPause=0
bSaveOnTravel=0
bSaveOnWait=0
bSaveOnRest=1
fSkyCellRefFadeDistance=250000.0000
[GamePlay]
bShowFloatingQuestMarkers=0
bShowQuestMarkers=1
iDifficulty=3
[Interface]
bDialogueSubtitles=0
bGeneralSubtitles=0
fMouseCursorSpeed=1.0000
bShowCompass=0
[Controls]
fGamepadHeadingSensitivity=1.0000
fMouseHeadingSensitivity=0.0600
bAlwaysRunByDefault=0
bInvertYValues=0
bGamePadRumble=0
bMouseAcceleration=0
[Particles]
iMaxDesired=750
[SaveGame]
fAutosaveEveryXMins=60.0000
[AudioMenu]
fAudioMasterVolume=1.0000
fVal7=1.0000
uID7=0
fVal6=1.0000
uID6=0
fVal5=1.0000
uID5=0
fVal4=1.0000
uID4=0
fVal3=1.0000
uID3=94881
fVal2=0.3000
uID2=466532
fVal1=1.0000
uID1=554685
fVal0=0.8500
uID0=1007612
[Clouds]
fCloudLevel2Distance=262144.0000
fCloudLevel1Distance=32768.0000
fCloudLevel0Distance=16384.0000
fCloudNearFadeDistance=9000.0000
[TerrainManager]
fTreeLoadDistance=120000.0000
fBlockMaximumDistance=250000.0000
fBlockLevel1Distance=120000.0000
fBlockLevel0Distance=60000.0000
fSplitDistanceMult=1.5000
bShowLODInEditor=0
[NavMesh]
fObstacleAlpha=0.5000
fCoverSideHighAlpha=0.8000
fCoverSideLowAlpha=0.6500
fEdgeFullAlpha=1.0000
fEdgeHighAlpha=0.7500
fEdgeLowAlpha=0.5000
fTriangleFullAlpha=0.7000
fTriangleHighAlpha=0.3500
fTriangleLowAlpha=0.2000
fLedgeBoxHalfHeight=25.0000
fEdgeDistFromVert=10.0000
fEdgeThickness=10.0000
fPointSize=2.5000
[Trees]
bRenderSkinnedTrees=1
uiMaxSkinnedTreesToRender=20
[Decals]
uMaxDecals=1000
bDecals=1
bSkinnedDecals=1
uMaxSkinDecals=100
uMaxSkinDecalsPerActor=60
[LOD]
fLODFadeOutMultObjects=15.0000
fLODFadeOutMultItems=15.0000
fLODFadeOutMultActors=15.0000
fLODFadeOutMultSkyCell=1.0000
[Launcher]
bEnableFileSelection=1
bShowAllResolutions=1
uLastAspectRatio=3
[BlurShaderHDR]
bDoHighDynamicRange=1
[BlurShader]
bUseBlurShader=0
[Water]
iWaterReflectHeight=1024
iWaterReflectWidth=1024
bUseWaterDisplacements=1
bUseWaterRefractions=1
bUseWaterReflections=1
bUseWaterDepth=1

Some of my settings may look a bit weird, as I am trying to tweak settings and it is a painful trial-and-error process with nothing but outdated guides and info to go on.

I'll try to get a screenshot of the glitch in a few, but does anyone have any clue what setting might cause this? The only thing I have read that is close has to do with the FOV setting, which I haven't knowingly altered. Any help with this would be appreciated.

» Tue Jun 16, 2015 6:03 pm

If it's not just at the extreme edges of the view, then FOV isn't the issue. I run on triple monitors at an effective 5966x1080 resolution, so I get the effect at the edges a lot.

The first person camera isn't in the center of the head (or you'd see the back of your eyeballs, which can happen briefly during the first/third switch), so there's always going to be the possibility that the camera will be beyond the collision surface of the player's head and get beyond where that can go. A large collision volume for the player would fix it only at the expense of something else becoming unrealistic, so quit banging your head on the walls! :wallbash: :tongue:

» Tue Jun 16, 2015 9:40 pm

I don't know what changes you have made to the ini files, but back them up if you want, delete your ini files, let the game create new ones, and THEN:

Install that mod: http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/57859/?

IT MAY FIX YOUR CLIPPING PROBLEMS !!! :wink:

Frequently Asked Questions

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What is the difference from other 1st person body mods?

Unlike other first person body mods, this mod is designed to replicate the look and feel of vanilla first person. It enables a hybrid mode where it uses the 1st person arms with the 3rd person body and there is no head bob. This mod is also much easier to install and requires minimal configuration (but has an ini file if required). For a more visual comparison, see Brodual's video in the videos tab.

Does the mod use scripts/have any issues when uninstalling?

No, this mod is a skse plugin dll. It does not have an esp file and doesn't use any scripts. So there are no issues with uninstalling the mod and causing bugs with the saved game.

What are some recommended SKSE_EnhancedCamera.ini setting tweaks?

Most of the ini is already set to recommended values but there are some settings you can change depending on your preferences.

bEnableHeadBob - Can be enabled if you prefer a head bob.

fFirstPersonFOV - Can be set if you prefer a higher fov.

fNearDistanceXXX - Should set lower when using higher fov to prevent camera clipping.

bFirstPersonXXX - Enables/disables 1st person during forced 3rd person events. Can be disabled if you don't like the head bob.

bEnableHeadFirstPerson - If enabled this may allow you to see your hair in 1st person.]

» Wed Jun 17, 2015 12:41 am

Haha, funny. :facepalm: :lol:

The thing is, I can walk slowly into a wall as well and it happens, as well as turning the 1st person camera from side to side when I am close to something, not just running into a wall. I just tested some more in game though, and it appears that if I run the game with either the Skyrim default launcher or the SKSE launcher, it doesn't have this glitch, only when I launch the game through Mod Organizer. The obvious differences being with the former 2, none of my mods (except maybe the official texture pack) are active. Perhaps more importantly, though, Mod Organizer uses a separate set of configuration files from the normal Skyrim launcher (and probably SKSE launcher as well)... so I am switching my ini files around to see if the glitch still shows up... if I can rule out a mod issue then maybe I can zero in on a setting in the prefs file... *fingers crossed*

» Tue Jun 16, 2015 4:26 pm

HAH! I had been looking in the wrong place - SkyrimPrefs.ini but I narrowed it down to a (glaringly obvious) line in the Skyrim.ini flie:

"fNearDistance=25.0000"

I guess I added this line when I was trying to find a solution for Z-fighting on distant mountain textures... :facepalm:

Funny how the person that came up with that fix even said that it might cause clipping which they saw as no big deal as long as this setting helped lessen the Z-fighting. I guess I'd prefer not to have the clipping and either deal with or find another solution for Z-fighting. Just goes to show how much graphics tweaking is a matter of personal preference.

Thanks for the mod suggestion, Mark41. I will definitely check it out. I definitely miss the old style of first person perspective horseback riding from Daggerfall and Oblivion and never understood why they didn't at least allow the option in Skyrim. I was planning to look for a mod to address that very thing before I noticed my clipping problem. :goodjob:

Maybe this will turn out to be that "just one more mod" that I need before I can actually play Skyrim soon... :laugh: